WWIII

[SALTY DOG]

Obviously this is WWIII, anyone who doesn't
believe this...check your baggage in and go
down to the third door on the left, free pot,
cocaine, and opium....what difference does
it make what playing field the USA chose to
play this out...OK, liberals, answer me this, since
John Kerry has ALL the answers in hindsight,
where do YOU want this battle to take place...
Their is no place strategically BETTER than Iraq..
Their is no place we as a fighting unit KNOW
better than Iraq...It HAD to be DONE...so tell
me BIG BAD JOHN KERRY, WHAT WOULD YOU
HAVE DONE DIFFERENT.....You liberals don't
have a clue....that's what SCARES the SHIT out
of me........

 

[MrChristo]

If you guys want to keep talking about this 'war', then at least get your facts straight.
First we were there because Saddam had wmd.
Then it was just to 'liberate' the Iraqi people.
Then it was because they were funding terrorists...
...and now it's WW3!

On who exactly? The Muslim world?...Well, as djv posted in another thread, there is systematic killing and raping of non-Islamic African's in Sudan that no-one seems to be cared about?
Osama and his cronies are still tucked away in Afganistan effectively ruling the extremist factions around the place.

I'd like to know what you think we've achieved by going into Iraq?
Removed a particularly nasty regime from power? Good.
What else?.......
What HAD to be done, exactly?

Do you really, honestly believe there will be no more 9/11 style terrorist attacks in the near future?

 

[StevieD]

If we are so safe because we are fighting WWIII in Iraq why does Tommy Ridge keep issueing these terror warnings? They beef up the so called security a few days, then because it is too expensive, he lowers the warning. Now, we have all kinds of money to build new schools in Iraq but we don't have the money to protect ourselves at home. That doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

 

[smurphy]

Anyway, Kerry's platform does NOT say cut and run from Iraq. We are there now, and (unlike Sharpton or Nader), he will not be foolish enough to have us evacuate without establishing stability.

I agree that we may very well be at the front end of WW3. Iraq is actually more of a distraction from this war, however.

 

[SixFive]

While I do think WWIII, the end, or the tribulation, or whatever you want to call it will involve us on one side and Muslims on the other, I don't think this is it. U might also add the Chinese against us too, wouldn't that be scary? Wouldn't be at all suprised if we had to fight the Russians either. Ever hear of Gog and Magog fighting Israel and their people as numerous as the grains of sand? Scary stuff, but I digress into prophesy which most here don't believe in anyway.

 

[SALTY DOG]

I do, and you bring a different element into this discussion which
you and I will probably have to digress to in another thread.

 

[michaeljbird]

While I do think WWIII, the end, or the tribulation, or whatever you want to call it will involve us on one side and Muslims on the other, I don't think this is it. U might also add the Chinese against us too, wouldn't that be scary? Wouldn't be at all suprised if we had to fight the Russians either. Ever hear of Gog and Magog fighting Israel and their people as numerous as the grains of sand? Scary stuff, but I digress into prophesy which most here don't believe in anyway.

sixfive,what scares me the most is just how correct you are.And let me add "I believe"!!!

 

[Chanman]

Interesting article: http://www.davidduke.com/writings/09-17-01.shtml

 

[JT]

I also believe our blind support of Israel is something that hurts us. Blame alot of that on the Christian Right. Annoys the hell out of me though when KKK Grand Wizards agree with me

 

[kosar]

Annoys the hell out of me though when KKK Grand Wizards agree with me :

Then in line with Dogs That Barks' 'logic', that means you are on the same side as the KKK.

Don't you see- As Dogs states almost daily, Evil Arabs want Kerry elected so that means Kerry and the Arabs are aligned.

Same thing.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I am saying Terrorists have same view as many liberals----anybody but Bush.

Saw elsewhere of people and Kerry dissing troop removal from Europe and Korea---do you really know who is more concerned about this. IRAN!!
Have you noticed all their chatter since that was announced about how they now think they can strike unprovked???

Maybe they see something that many do not, "yet"

Surrounding them is Isreal and U.S. in Afgan and Iraq---and soon to have extra troops to put in that region. Would be scared shitless myself if I was them.

Can you possibly fathom what might be coming down??????
After 911 Bush said he would fight the axis of evils--in less than 4 years we have gained VERY important allies in that region and taken 2 on the list and have the 3rd surrounded----
Think about people---quite an astounding feat by any sense of the imagination---but despite the obvious there will be those that don't feel any safer--preferred it when we were footing N Korea bills so they could build their nukes---think alligning with germany and france is more important than Pakistan-Saudi-Turkey-Egypt ect.
---and don't worry about China alligning with Muslims ---it's not going to happen--period!!!!

 

[dr. freeze]

Then in line with Dogs That Barks' 'logic', that means you are on the same side as the KKK.

Don't you see- As Dogs states almost daily, Evil Arabs want Kerry elected so that means Kerry and the Arabs are aligned.

Same thing.

aren't you the guy who compared conservatives to Nazi's because they both were patriotic?

 

[kosar]

aren't you the guy who compared conservatives to Nazi's because they both were patriotic?

No, I was the guy who used that ridiculous analogy as the Socialist/Communist/Democratic Party comparisons came rolling in. They're both as idiotic as the other.

 

[MrChristo]

I am saying Terrorists have same view as many liberals

Ok. I'll be the one to shake my head in utter amazement at this one. Can't even bring myself to form an argument!!

After 911 Bush said he would fight the axis of evils--in less than 4 years we have gained VERY important allies in that region and taken 2 on the list and have the 3rd surrounded----

Gained allies???...By invading and taking over their countries?? I'm not sure if you're aware, but I can assure you that 'we've' pissed off a whole lot more people than we've brought onside in the last 4 years!!

Axis of evils???...Wonder how those evil Iraqi civilians are going just at the minute? How dare they have the nerve to look/act and believe different things than you!! EVIL I tell ya!!

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Mr Christo Your pulling a Micheal Moore on me--

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOGS THAT BARK
I am saying Terrorists have same view as many liberals

the entire quote was
"I am saying Terrorists have same view as many liberals----anybody but Bush."
Quite a difference

and on your assertion of gaining allies until you read what is happing in Turkey-Saudi-Pakistan ect it is futile for me to debate issue with--how many terrorist have Germany and France killed or captured???? Will give Germany credit where due for having troops in afgan.

"Axis of evils???...Wonder how those evil Iraqi civilians are going just at the minute?"

I wasn't aware anyone wanted to target the civilians--however Saddam and sons are not doing to well.
Could you share with us which media you got your info from that supports our objective being civilians.

Here is link where you can read papers from around the world--I think you might them enlightening and much more informative than moveon.org

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/asia/afp.html

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Once again Wayne, who do you think the terrorists would rather have as president, a candidate who polarizes people and ideologies or one who doesn't. Clearly, Bush is the terrorists favorite.

To prove what I am saying, yesterday I saw a middle eastern man with a bushy black mustache driving an older Volvo up Vine Street toward the home of the Bearcats here in the Queen City bearing a "Gulf War Veteran for Bush" bumper sticker.

Now if that isn't proof that terrorists are for Bush, I don't know what is.

Eddie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Aha Now I know where your office is, remember I told you it was on Vine Street or another.
I may retire and go into undercover work

 

[Clem D]

This whole theory that Bin laden and terrorists are for Kerry is just plain stupid, Osama has enjoyed freedom for nearly 3 years since this inept administration stated he was wanted dead or alive. He has also enjoyed the greatest recruiting tool possible for his organization, Pissing off the moderate muslims and making extremists faster than we can kill them.

 

[djv]

I believe if and when WW III ever starts. We will all know it. These battles since WWII have all been called police actions. It seems the historians and even our own government that fails to declare these wars. They want the numbers higher. 50/60 thousand dead in both Korea and Nam just don't due it for some folks. They like to say millions died in WWI and WWII. Don't worry when WW III comes and HOPE/PRAY it never does it will be millions again.

 

[Chanman]

This whole theory that Bin laden and terrorists are for Kerry is just plain stupid, Osama has enjoyed freedom for nearly 3 years since this inept administration stated he was wanted dead or alive. He has also enjoyed the greatest recruiting tool possible for his organization, Pissing off the moderate muslims and making extremists faster than we can kill them.

Source?
From: Bin Laden, Osama [mailtosama@taliban.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2001 8:17 PM
To: Cavemates
Subject: The Cave

Hi guys. We've all been putting in long hours but we've really come
together as a group and I love that. Big thanks to Omar for putting up
The poster that says "There is no I in team" as well as the one that says "Hang In
There, Baby." That cat is hilarious. However, while we are fighting a jihad,
we can't forget to take care of the cave. And frankly I have a few concerns.

First of all, while it's good to be concerned about cruise missiles, we
should be even more concerned about the scorpions in our cave. Hey, you
don't want to be stung and neither do I, so we need to sweep the cave
daily. I've posted a sign-up sheet near the main cave opening.

Second, it's not often I make a video address but when I do, I'm trying
to scare the most powerful country on earth, okay? That means that while
we're taping, please do not ride your razor scooter in the background.
Just while we're taping. OK- Thanks.

Third point, and this is a touchy one. As you know, by edict, we're not
supposed to shave our beards. But I need everyone to just think hygiene,
especially after mealtime. We're all in this together.

Fourth: food. I bought a box of Cheez-Its recently, clearly wrote
"Osama" on the front, and put it on the top shelf. Today, my Cheez-Its
Were gone. Consideration. That's all I'm saying.

Finally, we've heard that there may be American soldiers in disguise
trying to infiltrate our ranks. I want to set up patrols to look for
them. First patrol will be Omar, Muhammed, Abdul, Akbar, and Ralph.

Praise be to Allah...Love you all.

Osama