I don't wanna get too personal or sentimental since it's an internet message board, but this is an interesting thread....I dont know what it is about Florida it's like the haven for people on drugs, booze, gambling, laziness like you described with your gambling,chillin all the time, I'm the same way since I left civilization in NY and came here, it's weird, and everyone who wants a 'new life' from up there comes to fla to start again, but I digress....I know the feeling though, I use booze to cover up a lot of feelings that I get angry about, gambling losses have caused me majority of the stress over the years, but liking women who didnt like me back and vice versa, etc etc, just hang in there man and be happy every day you walk outside and do something meaningful each day, take a walk, ride a bike, be friendly to someone, it makes a difference, sorry for my rambling but I wanted to get my 2 cents in I'll probably post again eventually it's an important and common topic
DEPRESSION!
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ALWAYS PRAYEN said:
turnin 40 very soon. i changed careers and struggled then i couldn't afford the house i had just bought. i feel your pain. smokin the weed took the edge off, but it didnt really help. i found that for me what made the difference was keeping as busy as possible with work and being positive. its easy to say but getting upset over things you cant control does no good. i found myself stressing then i would just realize what i was doing and then it would pass.
stay strong and remember good things, these bad moments will pass.
I know several. Many live as aritsis (paint, music, etc). off topic....
A.P....you always have friends here. Life is a fickle thing. Life it to its fullest. Peace Bro.
A.P....you always have friends here. Life is a fickle thing. Life it to its fullest. Peace Bro.
I know a bunch of pot smokers...Heart Surgeon, Attorneys, Phd.....Its just a little grass.
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guys this thread is great!! i keep checking it when my chest starts hurting and boom their you guys are!!! most all the responces are so heart warming that it makes you know your not alone and makes me feel alittle less sad!!! thanx guys!! i truelly mean it!!! im trying to go to sleep but no luck so far !!! the worse thing that happened today is i felf everything clinging to me so i took 4 showers and changed my clothes 3 times while taking off all my jewelry 2 necklaces 3 braclets 2 rings i felt jailed it was sucking the life out of me !!! weird YES but true YES !!!! never had panic attacks like this before!!!! since ive been having these feelings ive shaved my beard and mustache i was freaking about about the hair on my face! the worst one was the nite i felt too fat !!!!! the sad part is IAM FAT!! im 385 lbs 6 2 but still fat but when your brain starts telling you to take it off and you start pulling your skin trying to get it off but it wont come off its a long sad nite!!! that happened about 6 nites ago !! i found my self driving down the road and jumping into a community swimming pool at 3 45 am so the water would make me feel lighter!!! guys thanx alott!!! i made thru the day because of you guys and i hope i can make thru tomorrow too!!!! thanx you!!!!!!!!!!!
always, hope you are not bs,ing us.. i am a doc, retired, and have some advice for you.. first, consider surgery for your weight problem. you may not qualify, as you have to go through counseling first, but at 385, you are an accident waiting to happen !2nd, because you do not like youself you are addicted to porn...no help there, as you cannot do what you watch ! you need a "head doc" not a body doc.. if what you post is true, you will not be here a year from now.. a wife and a kid ? believe me when i tell ya, you can do it !!! may have to give up a few things you overdo, drinking? no problem with pot, 40 years here , and very successful..... good luck to you, REMEMBER, tomorrow is the first day in the rest of your life !!!
ALWAYS PRAYEN,
Good luck to you in your pursuit. I'm attaching the following URL if you really are serious about professional help. Had my Son there for Meth/drug problems and they are the best in the USA. People there from all over the world. Good Luck to you. Don't give up and give them a call just to talk if you wish. They are fantastic.
http://www.hazelden.org/
Good luck to you in your pursuit. I'm attaching the following URL if you really are serious about professional help. Had my Son there for Meth/drug problems and they are the best in the USA. People there from all over the world. Good Luck to you. Don't give up and give them a call just to talk if you wish. They are fantastic.
http://www.hazelden.org/
My wife who is 49 suffers from depression. 2 years ago she was diagnosed with a heart desease. She had to have a pacemaker/defibulator installed in her chest. She has become very depressed since that time. She was always very active and lived a clean life. Non-smoker, very light drinker, no drugs, walked 3 miles per day at least 4 days a week and taught yoga. Basicly her only bad habit was me. This has changed both of our lives dramaticly. She takes medication for depression but some days it just doesn't help. Family seems to be the best remedy for her. Thank God the Grandaughter came along at the same time. I know what you re going thru. See a doctor follow their instructions and lean on family and friends. Hope all works out. God Bless.
I have always considered myself and open book, and do not care what other's may think... so here is my experience.
About 4-5 years ago when I got out of teaching and into Pharmaceuticals I was staying in a hotel during the training period. I woke up at midnight. and just couldn't breathe! Being asthmatic and not having an attack for over 16 years I was amazed at what was happening and attempted to take my inhaler but couldn't really get the med inhaled.
I walked down (almost crawled) to the main desk (couldn't talk) and ask for help. Called ambulance etc. nebulkizer treatments, etc. Was released in morning and told to follow up with Primary doc. To shorten the story, I had 3 more ambulance rides within the next 4 weeks, several tests for my lung capacity etc., and was being treated for asthma.
A few months later I was hospitalized again for not being able to slow my heart rate down. I was sitting at the computer around 10am, when my heart just started pounding and wouldn't slow down. 3-5 minutes into it, I made the 911 call again (wife at work, son at daycare) when they arrived my BP was 240/180 and they said something was going on, and quickly took me in.
A couple more events happened like that, and numerous nights where I would wake up out of breathe, or some type of breathing issues as well. Then finally an ER doc wrote in his notes to the GP that it appeared I may be suffering from panic attacks and not necessarily asthma for which I was being treated. The Gp talked to me about it, talked over the life changes etc, and what he then thought about the diagnosis, and I was put on Zoloft for "Panic Atttacks" which is technically a form of depression in expression.
I have been on Zoloft for a couple of years, and has worked well, it kinda takes the "edge" off so the attacks are limited or small. I was also told if I feel one coming on to find something to take my mind away and focus on it. Whether it be a TV show, an article, music or whatever, and then let the feeling pass. Well it has worked wonders for my daily life, but still experience a very small panic attack every so often, but nothing debilitating etc., especially understanding what it is. (Which to me is over 95% of the battle!)
Good luck to you, and I wish you the best in terms of the diagnosis, and treatment!
TSI
About 4-5 years ago when I got out of teaching and into Pharmaceuticals I was staying in a hotel during the training period. I woke up at midnight. and just couldn't breathe! Being asthmatic and not having an attack for over 16 years I was amazed at what was happening and attempted to take my inhaler but couldn't really get the med inhaled.
I walked down (almost crawled) to the main desk (couldn't talk) and ask for help. Called ambulance etc. nebulkizer treatments, etc. Was released in morning and told to follow up with Primary doc. To shorten the story, I had 3 more ambulance rides within the next 4 weeks, several tests for my lung capacity etc., and was being treated for asthma.
A few months later I was hospitalized again for not being able to slow my heart rate down. I was sitting at the computer around 10am, when my heart just started pounding and wouldn't slow down. 3-5 minutes into it, I made the 911 call again (wife at work, son at daycare) when they arrived my BP was 240/180 and they said something was going on, and quickly took me in.
A couple more events happened like that, and numerous nights where I would wake up out of breathe, or some type of breathing issues as well. Then finally an ER doc wrote in his notes to the GP that it appeared I may be suffering from panic attacks and not necessarily asthma for which I was being treated. The Gp talked to me about it, talked over the life changes etc, and what he then thought about the diagnosis, and I was put on Zoloft for "Panic Atttacks" which is technically a form of depression in expression.
I have been on Zoloft for a couple of years, and has worked well, it kinda takes the "edge" off so the attacks are limited or small. I was also told if I feel one coming on to find something to take my mind away and focus on it. Whether it be a TV show, an article, music or whatever, and then let the feeling pass. Well it has worked wonders for my daily life, but still experience a very small panic attack every so often, but nothing debilitating etc., especially understanding what it is. (Which to me is over 95% of the battle!)
Good luck to you, and I wish you the best in terms of the diagnosis, and treatment!
TSI
Obesity and depression linked
Dr. Tanis Adey
As if it weren?t bad enough being overweight, now research shows that depression is at least two times greater among obese individuals.
Dr. Tanis Adey, Psychiatry, said that there is a growing trend of obesity in Canada, and it is associated with other diseases such as hypertension, type 2 diabetes mellitus and ischemic heart disease. But while it is generally accepted by most health care professionals that there is an association between obesity and depression, she explained that this has not been consistently substantiated in well-designed studies. So with co-investigators.Caroline McCallum, Tahmir El-Tahan, Yvonne Tobin and Dr. Proton Rahman, a new study was designed to measure the degree of depression among obese subjects.
?We had 837 subjects who were enrolled in an ongoing population based obesity study at Newfound Genomics. Patients were categorized by degree of obesity ranging from pre-obese (BMI 25 to 30) to those morbidly obese (BMI greater than 45),? she said. ?We noted a 2.5 fold increased incidence of depression in obese individuals. This increased risk of depression was independent of other illness. Thus the increased risk of depression among obese individuals cannot, for example, be solely explained by the co-existence of coronary heart disease.?
Numerous instant calculators of body mass index (BMI) are readily available on the Web, but if you want to figure it out the old-fashioned way the pounds/inches BMI formula is: Your weight (in pounds) times 704.5 divided by your height (in inches) times your height in inches. A 5 ft. 4 inch female weighing 120 pounds at age 30 has a healthy weight; that same woman at 160 pounds is overweight and at 240 pounds is severely obese.
To determine who in the study was depressed, Dr. Adey?s group relied on a self reported history of depression coupled with concurrent antidepressant use. Those taking antidepressants for other reasons were excluded from the study.
Dr. Adey said this study does not necessarily implicate the specific factors contributing to the association between obesity and depression. ?However, by formally highlighting its existence and magnitude, we have a greater awareness of the problem. Further work now needs to be done in clarifying the reasons for this association.?
The health risks of obesity include twice the incidence of high blood pressure and stroke, four times the incidence of diabetes, twice the incidence of coronary heart disease in men under 45, and an association with an increased risk of breast cancer (after menopause), womb cancer, kidney cancer and gall bladder disease.
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Saw this article the other day.
Have had problems with depression and panic attacks in my life.
Not really sure how I have made it this far.
Dr. Tanis Adey
As if it weren?t bad enough being overweight, now research shows that depression is at least two times greater among obese individuals.
Dr. Tanis Adey, Psychiatry, said that there is a growing trend of obesity in Canada, and it is associated with other diseases such as hypertension, type 2 diabetes mellitus and ischemic heart disease. But while it is generally accepted by most health care professionals that there is an association between obesity and depression, she explained that this has not been consistently substantiated in well-designed studies. So with co-investigators.Caroline McCallum, Tahmir El-Tahan, Yvonne Tobin and Dr. Proton Rahman, a new study was designed to measure the degree of depression among obese subjects.
?We had 837 subjects who were enrolled in an ongoing population based obesity study at Newfound Genomics. Patients were categorized by degree of obesity ranging from pre-obese (BMI 25 to 30) to those morbidly obese (BMI greater than 45),? she said. ?We noted a 2.5 fold increased incidence of depression in obese individuals. This increased risk of depression was independent of other illness. Thus the increased risk of depression among obese individuals cannot, for example, be solely explained by the co-existence of coronary heart disease.?
Numerous instant calculators of body mass index (BMI) are readily available on the Web, but if you want to figure it out the old-fashioned way the pounds/inches BMI formula is: Your weight (in pounds) times 704.5 divided by your height (in inches) times your height in inches. A 5 ft. 4 inch female weighing 120 pounds at age 30 has a healthy weight; that same woman at 160 pounds is overweight and at 240 pounds is severely obese.
To determine who in the study was depressed, Dr. Adey?s group relied on a self reported history of depression coupled with concurrent antidepressant use. Those taking antidepressants for other reasons were excluded from the study.
Dr. Adey said this study does not necessarily implicate the specific factors contributing to the association between obesity and depression. ?However, by formally highlighting its existence and magnitude, we have a greater awareness of the problem. Further work now needs to be done in clarifying the reasons for this association.?
The health risks of obesity include twice the incidence of high blood pressure and stroke, four times the incidence of diabetes, twice the incidence of coronary heart disease in men under 45, and an association with an increased risk of breast cancer (after menopause), womb cancer, kidney cancer and gall bladder disease.
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Saw this article the other day.
Have had problems with depression and panic attacks in my life.
Not really sure how I have made it this far.
AP:
Having the courage to admit you have a problem is a huge first step. Without admitting that you can't begin the healing process. Also from what I have been told, Smoking pot does add to depression. It may temporarily make you relax or feel better, but ultimately the problem is still there so you may even feel worse after the high is over. You have already done the best thing you can do for yourself by going to a doctor. I had never experienced a panic attack in my life until I got divorced. Until you actually go through it you do not understand what it is like. My college roomate also had a bought with panic attacks, where every time he worked out his heart would race and he thought he was going to die. This is a very serious problem and I am happy to hear you are taking steps to solve it. From what you described you have some real problems at the moment with your home and professional life. One important thing to realize is that would make anyone stressed, depressed, and anxious. It is very important you realize you are not some kind of freak or weak person because of what you are going through. Thousands of people have the same issues and just do not want to admit it. I greatly admire your courage and wish you the best. Remember falling down is not a crime, the crime is to not get back up!
Having the courage to admit you have a problem is a huge first step. Without admitting that you can't begin the healing process. Also from what I have been told, Smoking pot does add to depression. It may temporarily make you relax or feel better, but ultimately the problem is still there so you may even feel worse after the high is over. You have already done the best thing you can do for yourself by going to a doctor. I had never experienced a panic attack in my life until I got divorced. Until you actually go through it you do not understand what it is like. My college roomate also had a bought with panic attacks, where every time he worked out his heart would race and he thought he was going to die. This is a very serious problem and I am happy to hear you are taking steps to solve it. From what you described you have some real problems at the moment with your home and professional life. One important thing to realize is that would make anyone stressed, depressed, and anxious. It is very important you realize you are not some kind of freak or weak person because of what you are going through. Thousands of people have the same issues and just do not want to admit it. I greatly admire your courage and wish you the best. Remember falling down is not a crime, the crime is to not get back up!
Remember falling down is not a crime, the crime is to not get back up!
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AP, best of luck to ya, sunshine!!!!! tough road unless you WANT to get thru all that is holding you back.
mcgruder, as far as hazelden goes, my ex has been there 3 times, and is not in much better condition than when he was sent there the first time. guess it's the *sent* thing, rather than the *want to be there* thing that doesn't help??
mcgruder, as far as hazelden goes, my ex has been there 3 times, and is not in much better condition than when he was sent there the first time. guess it's the *sent* thing, rather than the *want to be there* thing that doesn't help??
