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'Taliban American' asks Bush to commute prison sentenceStory Highlights
NEW: Father: "We think everyone should agree that seven years is enough"
John Walker Lindh has served seven years of 20-year sentence
Lindh joined Taliban, was captured in Afghanistan in 2001
Lindh said in 2002 he realized he made a mistake by joining Taliban
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The man dubbed the "Taliban American" is asking the president to commute the remaining years of his federal prison sentence, according to a statement released by his attorneys Wednesday.
John Walker Lindh is hoping that President Bush will commute the rest of his 20-year sentence.
John Walker Lindh, a 27-year-old Californian, has served seven years of a 20-year sentence after being captured in Afghanistan in 2001.
He joined the Taliban to fight in the country's civil war one month before the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, according to the statement.
He originally was indicted on 10 charges, including conspiring to kill American citizens, but the U.S. Justice Department dismissed terrorism-related charges in 2002.
Lindh pleaded guilty to serving in the Taliban army and carrying weapons while fighting the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance. Along with the plea, he signed a gag order that prevented him from doing interviews.
His lawyers say Lindh never fought against American forces and received a harsher sentence because sentencing occurred after the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York, Washington and rural Pennsylvania.
Lindh's attorneys say he arrived in Afghanistan on September 6, 2001.
At a news conference Wednesday in San Francisco, California, Lindh's parents called on President Bush to show mercy for their son.
"This is the Christmas season, and it's a time for mercy," said Lindh's mother, Marilyn Walker.
His father, Frank Lindh, said his son, who grew up in California and converted to Islam as a teenager, "is a Muslim. He will always, I think, be a Muslim."
His parents repeated their contention that Lindh went abroad to study Islam, found himself in Afghanistan in a civil war and joined the Taliban with no intent to support terrorism or fight against his homeland. They believe that the post-September 11 charges of terrorism, which were subsequently dismissed, spurred public reaction against Lindh that resulted in the 20-year sentence.
"Our son never fought against American forces," his mother said. "He did not participate in terrorist activities of any kind. ... John made a mistake in joining the Afghan army at a time when their government was controlled by the Taliban. He has admitted that this was a mistake."
Lindh's attorneys said he is at a medium-security prison in Terre Haute, Indiana.
The elder Lindh said his son has been treated "very humanely" in the federal prison system.
"Quietly and in a good way, he has served his seven years," Frank Lindh said. "No matter what your perspective on this case, we think everyone should agree that seven years is enough."
Lindh's attorneys said that previous commutation appeals to the Bush administration have gone unanswered, but his father said Lindh's family holds out hope that Bush will act before leaving office.
"All of these events occurred while President Bush was in office," Frank Lindh said. "This is on his plate. I'd like to think we'll get a response from President Bush this time."
Appearing before a U.S. district judge in 2002, Lindh said he "made a mistake by joining the Taliban" and "had I realized then what I know now about the Taliban, I would never have joined them."
"Life is making choices and living with the consequences," U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis told Lindh during the sentencing. "You made a bad choice to join the Taliban."
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rot in hell you taliban little bitch
they should execute him for treason
NEW: Father: "We think everyone should agree that seven years is enough"
John Walker Lindh has served seven years of 20-year sentence
Lindh joined Taliban, was captured in Afghanistan in 2001
Lindh said in 2002 he realized he made a mistake by joining Taliban
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The man dubbed the "Taliban American" is asking the president to commute the remaining years of his federal prison sentence, according to a statement released by his attorneys Wednesday.
John Walker Lindh is hoping that President Bush will commute the rest of his 20-year sentence.
John Walker Lindh, a 27-year-old Californian, has served seven years of a 20-year sentence after being captured in Afghanistan in 2001.
He joined the Taliban to fight in the country's civil war one month before the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, according to the statement.
He originally was indicted on 10 charges, including conspiring to kill American citizens, but the U.S. Justice Department dismissed terrorism-related charges in 2002.
Lindh pleaded guilty to serving in the Taliban army and carrying weapons while fighting the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance. Along with the plea, he signed a gag order that prevented him from doing interviews.
His lawyers say Lindh never fought against American forces and received a harsher sentence because sentencing occurred after the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York, Washington and rural Pennsylvania.
Lindh's attorneys say he arrived in Afghanistan on September 6, 2001.
At a news conference Wednesday in San Francisco, California, Lindh's parents called on President Bush to show mercy for their son.
"This is the Christmas season, and it's a time for mercy," said Lindh's mother, Marilyn Walker.
His father, Frank Lindh, said his son, who grew up in California and converted to Islam as a teenager, "is a Muslim. He will always, I think, be a Muslim."
His parents repeated their contention that Lindh went abroad to study Islam, found himself in Afghanistan in a civil war and joined the Taliban with no intent to support terrorism or fight against his homeland. They believe that the post-September 11 charges of terrorism, which were subsequently dismissed, spurred public reaction against Lindh that resulted in the 20-year sentence.
"Our son never fought against American forces," his mother said. "He did not participate in terrorist activities of any kind. ... John made a mistake in joining the Afghan army at a time when their government was controlled by the Taliban. He has admitted that this was a mistake."
Lindh's attorneys said he is at a medium-security prison in Terre Haute, Indiana.
The elder Lindh said his son has been treated "very humanely" in the federal prison system.
"Quietly and in a good way, he has served his seven years," Frank Lindh said. "No matter what your perspective on this case, we think everyone should agree that seven years is enough."
Lindh's attorneys said that previous commutation appeals to the Bush administration have gone unanswered, but his father said Lindh's family holds out hope that Bush will act before leaving office.
"All of these events occurred while President Bush was in office," Frank Lindh said. "This is on his plate. I'd like to think we'll get a response from President Bush this time."
Appearing before a U.S. district judge in 2002, Lindh said he "made a mistake by joining the Taliban" and "had I realized then what I know now about the Taliban, I would never have joined them."
"Life is making choices and living with the consequences," U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis told Lindh during the sentencing. "You made a bad choice to join the Taliban."
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rot in hell you taliban little bitch
they should execute him for treason
Mayors' infrastructure request full of pork, critic
Mayors' infrastructure projects include polar bear exhibit, water ride
Another request: $20 million for a minor league baseball museum
Mayors contend projects will boost economy, create jobs
Critic says proposal represents "power grabs, money grabs"
CNN Special Investigations Unit
(CNN) -- A report to Congress that requests $73.2 billion to pay for infrastructure projects around the country includes plans for a polar bear exhibit, an anti-prostitution program, a water park ride, zoos, museums and aquatic centers, CNN has found.
The mayors' proposal requests a $4.8 million polar bear exhibit at the Providence, Rhode Island, zoo.
1 of 2 The U.S. Conference of Mayors went to Capitol Hill earlier this month with a report listing 11,391 infrastructure projects proposed by 427 cities. The mayors claimed the proposal would create 847,641 jobs in 2009 and 2010.
The more than 800-page document is titled "Main Street Economic Recovery: 'Ready To Go' Jobs and Infrastructure Projects."
"Our plan calls for investments that will stimulate our economy by quickly creating jobs, fixing our aging and crumbling infrastructure, increasing our global competitiveness, and further reducing our carbon footprint," Miami, Florida, Mayor Manny Diaz said at a news conference last week. Accompanied by other big-city mayors, he held up a copy of the hefty report to stress its importance.
"To reverse the current economic crisis, we must invest wisely. We must invest where we get the greatest return. We must invest in Main Street," said Diaz, who is the president of the mayors' group.
But a close examination of the projects by CNN shows proposals that go far beyond basic infrastructure plans for roads, bridges and other traditional public works projects.
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Among the many requests is one for a $4.8 million polar bear exhibit at the Providence, Rhode Island, zoo. The zoo's director said it's needed to boost attendance.
"I am advocating for the zoo as something that will stimulate the economy in Providence," said Jack Mulvena, director of Roger Williams Park Zoo.
Pete Sepp, vice president of the National Taxpayers Union, said the polar bear exhibit and many of the other proposals in the report are just plain pork.
"To the people supporting them, these proposals aren't a joke, but to the taxpayers funding them, yes -- this will be a joke for them, only they won't be laughing," Sepp said.
When asked by CNN if he had read the entire report, Diaz said he had "read through a lot of it."
"Obviously, I didn't sit there and look at all 11,300 projects that were submitted," the mayor said, explaining that he didn't have the time to do so.
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"It's hard for me to judge the particular needs that a particular city may have. It could very well be that some cities could perceive these as economic development projects," Diaz told CNN. "You can't simply just say because something sounds like it isn't right, that it isn't in fact right."
When pressed, Diaz acknowledged he was not aware of the proposal for a new $1.5 million water ride at the Grapeland Water Park in his own city. But he defended paying for parks as part of infrastructure projects.
CNN also found in the U.S. Conference of Mayors' report a proposed $20 million minor league baseball museum in Durham, North Carolina; $6.1 million for corporate jet hangars at the Fayetteville, Arkansas, airport; $20 million for renovations at the Philadelphia Zoo; and a $1.5 million program to reduce prostitution in Dayton, Ohio. Officials in those cities told CNN the projects were needed.
"People make judgments about the safety of a community by the level of social disorder. Street-level prostitution is clearly a social disorder," said Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl, defending his city's proposal to hire social workers and provide residential treatment programs for prostitutes.
Those projects -- plus money for aquatic centers, museums, bike paths, zoos, skateboard parks, dog and equestrian parks, police department stun guns, tree planting and murals -- total $376.5 million.
Diaz said projects such as museums are important.
"There are plenty of museums that I think people would argue that are part of a fabric of a city," Diaz said.
Sepp strongly disagrees.
"It's impossible for any normal taxpaying American to read this and not come away scratching their head and saying, 'Wait a minute, this isn't about infrastructure,'" Sepp said. "This is about political power grabs, money grabs
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another reason we are a trillion bucks in debt.
money grubbers never stop their grubbing ways.
Mayors' infrastructure projects include polar bear exhibit, water ride
Another request: $20 million for a minor league baseball museum
Mayors contend projects will boost economy, create jobs
Critic says proposal represents "power grabs, money grabs"
CNN Special Investigations Unit
(CNN) -- A report to Congress that requests $73.2 billion to pay for infrastructure projects around the country includes plans for a polar bear exhibit, an anti-prostitution program, a water park ride, zoos, museums and aquatic centers, CNN has found.
The mayors' proposal requests a $4.8 million polar bear exhibit at the Providence, Rhode Island, zoo.
1 of 2 The U.S. Conference of Mayors went to Capitol Hill earlier this month with a report listing 11,391 infrastructure projects proposed by 427 cities. The mayors claimed the proposal would create 847,641 jobs in 2009 and 2010.
The more than 800-page document is titled "Main Street Economic Recovery: 'Ready To Go' Jobs and Infrastructure Projects."
"Our plan calls for investments that will stimulate our economy by quickly creating jobs, fixing our aging and crumbling infrastructure, increasing our global competitiveness, and further reducing our carbon footprint," Miami, Florida, Mayor Manny Diaz said at a news conference last week. Accompanied by other big-city mayors, he held up a copy of the hefty report to stress its importance.
"To reverse the current economic crisis, we must invest wisely. We must invest where we get the greatest return. We must invest in Main Street," said Diaz, who is the president of the mayors' group.
But a close examination of the projects by CNN shows proposals that go far beyond basic infrastructure plans for roads, bridges and other traditional public works projects.
The Situation Room
Mayors' plan: Pork or progress? Watch "The Situation Room."
4 p.m. ET
see full schedule ?
Among the many requests is one for a $4.8 million polar bear exhibit at the Providence, Rhode Island, zoo. The zoo's director said it's needed to boost attendance.
"I am advocating for the zoo as something that will stimulate the economy in Providence," said Jack Mulvena, director of Roger Williams Park Zoo.
Pete Sepp, vice president of the National Taxpayers Union, said the polar bear exhibit and many of the other proposals in the report are just plain pork.
"To the people supporting them, these proposals aren't a joke, but to the taxpayers funding them, yes -- this will be a joke for them, only they won't be laughing," Sepp said.
When asked by CNN if he had read the entire report, Diaz said he had "read through a lot of it."
"Obviously, I didn't sit there and look at all 11,300 projects that were submitted," the mayor said, explaining that he didn't have the time to do so.
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Look in the proposal for projects in your area (PDF)
SIU blog: Polar bear pork?
Mayors want funds to fix their cities
"It's hard for me to judge the particular needs that a particular city may have. It could very well be that some cities could perceive these as economic development projects," Diaz told CNN. "You can't simply just say because something sounds like it isn't right, that it isn't in fact right."
When pressed, Diaz acknowledged he was not aware of the proposal for a new $1.5 million water ride at the Grapeland Water Park in his own city. But he defended paying for parks as part of infrastructure projects.
CNN also found in the U.S. Conference of Mayors' report a proposed $20 million minor league baseball museum in Durham, North Carolina; $6.1 million for corporate jet hangars at the Fayetteville, Arkansas, airport; $20 million for renovations at the Philadelphia Zoo; and a $1.5 million program to reduce prostitution in Dayton, Ohio. Officials in those cities told CNN the projects were needed.
"People make judgments about the safety of a community by the level of social disorder. Street-level prostitution is clearly a social disorder," said Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl, defending his city's proposal to hire social workers and provide residential treatment programs for prostitutes.
Those projects -- plus money for aquatic centers, museums, bike paths, zoos, skateboard parks, dog and equestrian parks, police department stun guns, tree planting and murals -- total $376.5 million.
Diaz said projects such as museums are important.
"There are plenty of museums that I think people would argue that are part of a fabric of a city," Diaz said.
Sepp strongly disagrees.
"It's impossible for any normal taxpaying American to read this and not come away scratching their head and saying, 'Wait a minute, this isn't about infrastructure,'" Sepp said. "This is about political power grabs, money grabs
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another reason we are a trillion bucks in debt.
money grubbers never stop their grubbing ways.
Blagojevich Wants to Defend With Election Funds
December 18, 2008
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. ? Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois plans to ask that he be permitted to use campaign funds to defend himself against federal corruption charges, a lawyer who represents the head of the embattled governor?s campaign fund said Thursday.
Michael D. Ettinger, the lawyer for Mr. Blagojevich?s brother, Robert, who is chairman of the campaign fund, The Friends of Blagojevich, said that the governor would make the request to the judge assigned to his case when and if he is formally indicted.
?There?s a real question about how he will be able to pay for his defense,? Mr. Ettinger said.
The decision to try to use campaign funds arose on Thursday after the state attorney general rejected a request by the governor to use state funds to pay for his impeachment defense.
Mr. Blagojevich may also be blocked from using campaign funds to pay for his defense. Mr. Ettinger said the fund has received a letter from the office of United States Patrick J. Fitzgerald warning that federal prosecutors would seek the forfeiture of the campaign contributions, and advising that the fund should not spend, dissipate, or conceal any of its resources. There was $3.6 million in the fund as of June 30, according to public filings.
Mr. Blagojevich, the two-term Democratic governor, was arrested last week on federal charges of conspiracy and soliciting bribes. He was accused, among other things, of extorting contributions to the campaign fund as a quid pro quo for jobs and contracts with the state of Illinois.
On wiretaps, Governor Blagojevich is quoted by federal investigators bemoaning his personal financial difficulties. At one point, he is said to have told his chief of staff, John Harris, that his financial situation is one of his main considerations in seeking a candidate to fill the vacant Senate seat of President-elect Barack Obama.
A spokesman for the United States attorney?s office, Randall Samborn, declined to comment on reports that prosecutors were seeking to freeze the campaign fund.
The discussion about the governor?s legal fees came as a House panel met for the third day to consider the impeachment of Governor Blagojevich. The majority of the day?s proceedings consisted of testimony from government officials and expert witnesses over whether they believed the governor had overstepped his authority during his six years on the job.
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Oh hell to the no !
if you are caught lieing bastid use your own fucking money you have already stolen to defend your insane ass.
Geez Louise !
December 18, 2008
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. ? Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois plans to ask that he be permitted to use campaign funds to defend himself against federal corruption charges, a lawyer who represents the head of the embattled governor?s campaign fund said Thursday.
Michael D. Ettinger, the lawyer for Mr. Blagojevich?s brother, Robert, who is chairman of the campaign fund, The Friends of Blagojevich, said that the governor would make the request to the judge assigned to his case when and if he is formally indicted.
?There?s a real question about how he will be able to pay for his defense,? Mr. Ettinger said.
The decision to try to use campaign funds arose on Thursday after the state attorney general rejected a request by the governor to use state funds to pay for his impeachment defense.
Mr. Blagojevich may also be blocked from using campaign funds to pay for his defense. Mr. Ettinger said the fund has received a letter from the office of United States Patrick J. Fitzgerald warning that federal prosecutors would seek the forfeiture of the campaign contributions, and advising that the fund should not spend, dissipate, or conceal any of its resources. There was $3.6 million in the fund as of June 30, according to public filings.
Mr. Blagojevich, the two-term Democratic governor, was arrested last week on federal charges of conspiracy and soliciting bribes. He was accused, among other things, of extorting contributions to the campaign fund as a quid pro quo for jobs and contracts with the state of Illinois.
On wiretaps, Governor Blagojevich is quoted by federal investigators bemoaning his personal financial difficulties. At one point, he is said to have told his chief of staff, John Harris, that his financial situation is one of his main considerations in seeking a candidate to fill the vacant Senate seat of President-elect Barack Obama.
A spokesman for the United States attorney?s office, Randall Samborn, declined to comment on reports that prosecutors were seeking to freeze the campaign fund.
The discussion about the governor?s legal fees came as a House panel met for the third day to consider the impeachment of Governor Blagojevich. The majority of the day?s proceedings consisted of testimony from government officials and expert witnesses over whether they believed the governor had overstepped his authority during his six years on the job.
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Oh hell to the no !
if you are caught lieing bastid use your own fucking money you have already stolen to defend your insane ass.
Geez Louise !
Clinton's foundation got millions from Saudis, GatesStory Highlights
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia gave between $10 million and $25 million
Bill Gates, Univision TV owner also gave millions
Kuwait and Qatar governments are also on list
(CNN) -- Former President Clinton published a list of donors to his foundation Thursday to help clear the way for his wife to become secretary of state.
Bill Clinton speaks to at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in Hong Kong in early December.
The donations to the William J. Clinton Foundation include amounts of $10 million to $25 million from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and real estate mogul Stephen Bing, a personal friend of Clinton's.
The Clintons came under intense pressure during Hillary Clinton's campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination to release the names of donors to both the foundation and to the Clinton presidential library in Arkansas.
Bill Clinton agreed to the release the list after President-elect Barack Obama nominated Hillary Clinton to become secretary of state.
The governments of Kuwait and Qatar are also on the list, as is Saudi businessman Nasser Al-Rashid, who has close ties to the Saudi royal family. Saudi Sheikh Mohammed H. Al-Amoudi, reputed to be one of the richest men in the world, is among the donors as well. Both Saudis contributed in the $1 million to $5 million range. A group called Friends of Saudi Arabia and the Dubai Foundation appear in the same category.
Indian businessman Lakshmi Mittal also donated between $1 million and $5 million, as did the Elton John AIDS Foundation, the Princess Diana Memorial Fund and the Open Society Institute, which George Soros founded.
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Israeli-born television mogul Haim Saban, owner of the Spanish-language TV station Univision, donated between $5 million and $10 million personally or through his foundation.
The two biggest donors are UNITAID, a new international organization that purchases drugs for the world's poorest people, and the Children's Investment Fund Foundation, both of which donated more than $25 million.
Clinton donated between $500,000 and $1 million personally or through his family foundation, which is separate from the William J. Clinton Foundation.
The foundation's projects include the Clinton Global Initiative, which seeks to combat poverty and climate change and promote health and education programs worldwide, as well as separate initiatives directed at childhood obesity, global warming, HIV/AIDS and malaria, inner city entrepreneurship and economic growth in Latin America. It also funded the construction of the Clinton Presidential Library in Arkansas.
The full 2,922-page list is at www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors. It includes only donation ranges, not specific amounts, and no information about donors beyond their names
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who gives 20 million to anyone without expecting some big things in return ?
They really think the American People are stupid.
This is why Slick willy wouldnt disclose the list before now.
Hillary as President would have alot of payback to do. Like keep oil prices high.
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia gave between $10 million and $25 million
Bill Gates, Univision TV owner also gave millions
Kuwait and Qatar governments are also on list
(CNN) -- Former President Clinton published a list of donors to his foundation Thursday to help clear the way for his wife to become secretary of state.
Bill Clinton speaks to at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in Hong Kong in early December.
The donations to the William J. Clinton Foundation include amounts of $10 million to $25 million from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and real estate mogul Stephen Bing, a personal friend of Clinton's.
The Clintons came under intense pressure during Hillary Clinton's campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination to release the names of donors to both the foundation and to the Clinton presidential library in Arkansas.
Bill Clinton agreed to the release the list after President-elect Barack Obama nominated Hillary Clinton to become secretary of state.
The governments of Kuwait and Qatar are also on the list, as is Saudi businessman Nasser Al-Rashid, who has close ties to the Saudi royal family. Saudi Sheikh Mohammed H. Al-Amoudi, reputed to be one of the richest men in the world, is among the donors as well. Both Saudis contributed in the $1 million to $5 million range. A group called Friends of Saudi Arabia and the Dubai Foundation appear in the same category.
Indian businessman Lakshmi Mittal also donated between $1 million and $5 million, as did the Elton John AIDS Foundation, the Princess Diana Memorial Fund and the Open Society Institute, which George Soros founded.
Don't Miss
Commentary: Thorny thicket of conflicts
Israeli-born television mogul Haim Saban, owner of the Spanish-language TV station Univision, donated between $5 million and $10 million personally or through his foundation.
The two biggest donors are UNITAID, a new international organization that purchases drugs for the world's poorest people, and the Children's Investment Fund Foundation, both of which donated more than $25 million.
Clinton donated between $500,000 and $1 million personally or through his family foundation, which is separate from the William J. Clinton Foundation.
The foundation's projects include the Clinton Global Initiative, which seeks to combat poverty and climate change and promote health and education programs worldwide, as well as separate initiatives directed at childhood obesity, global warming, HIV/AIDS and malaria, inner city entrepreneurship and economic growth in Latin America. It also funded the construction of the Clinton Presidential Library in Arkansas.
The full 2,922-page list is at www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors. It includes only donation ranges, not specific amounts, and no information about donors beyond their names
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who gives 20 million to anyone without expecting some big things in return ?
They really think the American People are stupid.
This is why Slick willy wouldnt disclose the list before now.
Hillary as President would have alot of payback to do. Like keep oil prices high.
?Bush avoided discussing Blagojevich.
"They're going to have to sort it through in Illinois," Bush said. "Obviously anytime anybody allegedly betrays the public trust there's got to be great concern because, you know, democracy really is, you know, really rests on the trust of the people. It's a system of people and by people and for people. And, therefore, the public trust is important."
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all we have seen in 8 years is distrust and money grubbers to the highest levels.
Bush and Cheney wouldnt know trust if it came up behind them and kicked them in the ass
"They're going to have to sort it through in Illinois," Bush said. "Obviously anytime anybody allegedly betrays the public trust there's got to be great concern because, you know, democracy really is, you know, really rests on the trust of the people. It's a system of people and by people and for people. And, therefore, the public trust is important."
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all we have seen in 8 years is distrust and money grubbers to the highest levels.
Bush and Cheney wouldnt know trust if it came up behind them and kicked them in the ass
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Redford warned that leases around the canyon "need to be stopped."
"Bush may be a lame duck, but he knows how to quack," said Redford. He warned: "We should not leave one more debt" of the Bush administration for Obama to fix.
"These lands are part of our legacy ... not Cheney's and Bush's," he continued. "[They've] been trashing the environment since they came in, like it was their prerogative."
But he was just getting warmed up: On top of Redford's criticisms of the Bush administration's environmental policies, he called Bush "morally criminal" on three separate occasions and said he "was shocked about how devious and sneaky" Bush has been while in office.
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damn Redford slammed George W
:scared :scared
"Bush may be a lame duck, but he knows how to quack," said Redford. He warned: "We should not leave one more debt" of the Bush administration for Obama to fix.
"These lands are part of our legacy ... not Cheney's and Bush's," he continued. "[They've] been trashing the environment since they came in, like it was their prerogative."
But he was just getting warmed up: On top of Redford's criticisms of the Bush administration's environmental policies, he called Bush "morally criminal" on three separate occasions and said he "was shocked about how devious and sneaky" Bush has been while in office.
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damn Redford slammed George W
:scared :scared
I bet my BFF Eddie is off solving some big law case and getting paid alot of money.
I honestly think Eddie is a American hero.
Time Magazine cover may be warranted .
I honestly think Eddie is a American hero.
Time Magazine cover may be warranted .
Well Well--Jan 20th has come and gone and we have final tally's and appears no one wants to bring this thread back up.As now we have the facts vs opinion and speculation.
--before we get to the facts if anyone is interested in accuracy of the opinions and speculations here are threads containing opionions since GW came in office .
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/search.php?searchid=238531
now the facts--where are all of GW's last minute pardons? Clemency for 2 border patrol guards?
Fact is GW only had total of 189 pardons in 8 years.
Slick in contrast had 140 on last day with aid of co-conspirator Holder who got promotion by O for his efforts -to attorney general.
--No last minute pardons for cocaine dealing family members
--No last minute pardons for those who refused to testify against him-McDougal
--No pardons for cash of 10 most wanted felons
--no pardon of terrorist groups that set 120 bombs in U.S.?
--I guess we have yet another debate we can close the books on
--before we get to the facts if anyone is interested in accuracy of the opinions and speculations here are threads containing opionions since GW came in office .
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/search.php?searchid=238531
now the facts--where are all of GW's last minute pardons? Clemency for 2 border patrol guards?
Fact is GW only had total of 189 pardons in 8 years.
Slick in contrast had 140 on last day with aid of co-conspirator Holder who got promotion by O for his efforts -to attorney general.
--No last minute pardons for cocaine dealing family members
--No last minute pardons for those who refused to testify against him-McDougal
--No pardons for cash of 10 most wanted felons
--no pardon of terrorist groups that set 120 bombs in U.S.?
--I guess we have yet another debate we can close the books on
DTB
can you agree that Obama has kept us safe from terrorists for almost a full week now ?
and he still hasnt taken a vacation day
:00hour
can you agree that Obama has kept us safe from terrorists for almost a full week now ?
and he still hasnt taken a vacation day
:00hour
Considering the exit polls showed O hit all time highs for % of voters with income under $15,000
(73%) and no high school education (63%)
--there is not really much you could add that would be revelation to me.
(73%) and no high school education (63%)
--there is not really much you could add that would be revelation to me.
Yeah, he had no right to tap into the core of the Republican base like that. :mj07:
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:142smilie :142smilie
that was a good one
Those idiots that voted for Obama couldn't tell you who the Vice President is, the same type of Morans that re-elected Ray Nagin. JMO.
:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
Considering the exit polls showed O hit all time highs for % of voters with income under $15,000
(73%) and no high school education (63%)
--there is not really much you could add that would be revelation to me.
We have covered this. I find it ironic that you point out education, and yet all you do is rail against our educational system as a bastion for intellectual, liberal elitists.
http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/Electiondemo6.gif
Jabbers
Great job Jabbers--find best poll you could of few 100 people vs CNN exit poll of voting population.:kiss:
You never fail to come through
Great job Jabbers--find best poll you could of few 100 people vs CNN exit poll of voting population.:kiss:
You never fail to come through
