Unemployment, uhhh UnEnjoyment Figures ?

[Lumi]

FUCK !!!!!!!!

These Numbers make my head hurt !

Hard to decipher and figure out who is telling the truth?

I am indifferent about this, because let's be honest. some people are flat dicking it, while others are truly getting fucked !

A very good friend of mine who is a Union heavy equipment operator has gone from making $42.00 an hour to the pittance he receives now.

I drive by the S/S office twice a day and the place is packed.

I wish I had work for more people, it's kind of weird for me to have an 8800 sq ft. warehouse and only work for myself +2, and my employees brothers, father and cousins are out of work and they are always asking me for work.

What are the real unemployment numbers?

It depends who you ask and where you look.

'60 Minutes' reminds us the real unemployment rate is over 17%


'60 Minutes' reminds us the real unemployment rate is over 17%

By Rick Moran
They are calling themselves "The 99'ers" - people who have exhausted their unemployment compensation and still can't find a job. CBS profiles this group of out of work Americans between the ages of 40-65 and shows why the stated unemployment rate of 9.5% is a mirage:The economic jam we're in has topped even the Great Depression in one respect: never have we had a recession this deep with a recovery this flat. Unemployment has been at nine and a half percent or above for 14 months.Congress did something that it has never done before - it extended unemployment benefits to 99 weeks.... (Read Full Article

 

[Duff Miver]

It's a simple problem to solve -

1. No more unemployment benefits.

2. More tax breaks for millionaires.

There, see how easy that is?

You can thank John Boner.

 

[The Sponge]

what did people expect giving the Republicans 6 years of total control and basically eight. It is the same ole odog and pony show every time they are in control and it looks like they may be again in two years. The country diserves this kind of recession. I said when Obama got elected that it would take a super hero to get us out of this nightmare in 4 years. It will take more than that. I know a few Engineers that can't even find work. Heck the Republicans even got two of their corporate god loving shitbags on the supreme court without much of a fight. Lady from the neighborhood just hung herself because she lost her job and was losing everything else. Times are tough. I hate to be 20 years old right now. tough to even go to college right now because americans are basically being priced out. gonna have to work 15 years just to pay off these ridiculous student loans these greedy schools cost some.

 

[RAYMOND]

its only going to get worst
SAME OLD SONG AND DANCE!

 

[hedgehog]

what did people expect giving the Republicans 6 years of total control and basically eight. It is the same ole odog and pony show every time they are in control and it looks like they may be again in two years. The country diserves this kind of recession. I said when Obama got elected that it would take a super hero to get us out of this nightmare in 4 years. It will take more than that. I know a few Engineers that can't even find work. Heck the Republicans even got two of their corporate god loving shitbags on the supreme court without much of a fight. Lady from the neighborhood just hung herself because she lost her job and was losing everything else. Times are tough. I hate to be 20 years old right now. tough to even go to college right now because americans are basically being priced out. gonna have to work 15 years just to pay off these ridiculous student loans these greedy schools cost some.

what is your solution :shrug:

 

[The Sponge]

what is your solution :shrug:

u want them all?
First I would stop being the worlds policeman. Pull everyone out of Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else we are stuck. Cut foreign aid to nothing. We have our own problems. regulate everything. I don't really want to do this but ya have to because a few greedy shit bags ruin it for everyone else. End farm subsidies. Put tariffs on products since these third world nations don't like to follow trade deals. rip up all these rotten trade deals we have in place now just to profit a certain few. End corporate welfare. Fix
gov't welfare. Neuter some of these ass holes if ya have to. U have a baby on crack u immediately have ur tubes tied. If u can find the guy chop his dick off for not wearing a rubber. Socialize natural gas and go right to it and fuk these oil companies. We could do this easy. End lobbying. No more of this horseshit. Make it illegal for a politician to ever work for a firm that lobby's. This is killing the country and the biggest killer of them all. Hegy they were only a few I thought of in two minutes. I'll make adjustments later. As u can see from my list I think I only listed one thing that the Republicans would. Rick Santorum from Pa didn't have a pot to piss in when he went to Congress and now he is a millionaire working for people that he helped with his vote. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Stop this shit with this don't ask don't tell. I hear about this shit every three months. Either end the shit or shut it down. People are losing their homes and all i hear about is this shit over and over again.

 

[The Sponge]

Oh and start a third party immediately and pray some of u neocon ass lickers would some day reach the age of reason and join in for the better of the country.

 

[hedgehog]

u want them all?
First I would stop being the worlds policeman. Pull everyone out of Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else we are stuck. Cut foreign aid to nothing. We have our own problems. regulate everything. I don't really want to do this but ya have to because a few greedy shit bags ruin it for everyone else. End farm subsidies. Put tariffs on products since these third world nations don't like to follow trade deals. rip up all these rotten trade deals we have in place now just to profit a certain few. End corporate welfare. Fix
gov't welfare. Neuter some of these ass holes if ya have to. U have a baby on crack u immediately have ur tubes tied. If u can find the guy chop his dick off for not wearing a rubber. Socialize natural gas and go right to it and fuk these oil companies. We could do this easy. End lobbying. No more of this horseshit. Make it illegal for a politician to ever work for a firm that lobby's. This is killing the country and the biggest killer of them all. Hegy they were only a few I thought of in two minutes. I'll make adjustments later. As u can see from my list I think I only listed one thing that the Republicans would. Rick Santorum from Pa didn't have a pot to piss in when he went to Congress and now he is a millionaire working for people that he helped with his vote. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Stop this shit with this don't ask don't tell. I hear about this shit every three months. Either end the shit or shut it down. People are losing their homes and all i hear about is this shit over and over again.

no foreign aid:0074 could not agree more lets build a WALL to keep illegals out while we are at it too

 

[The Sponge]

no foreign aid:0074 could not agree more lets build a WALL to keep illegals out while we are at it too

okay i will budge with ya Hedgy but i want defense spending shut down for two years. This wall u want to build will we do it with our people for a decent wage or go the republican route and get Mexicans to do it for pennies?

 

[Chadman]

Wow, guys. Just wow. While you're proposing some valid things - some of them just can't work for our country. Some of them have real value. I don't have time right now, but I'll try to comment later. The thing I was thinking about today was that tough times cause people to think differently, and I think we have a real movement coming on to think differently about our country and our political system.

I have nothing further at this point. But you know I will... :0074

P.S. Sponge - for what it's worth, thanks for laying out your thoughts on action. Very few actually throw it out there in a stream of consciousness, and deal with the ramifications. I certainly don't agree with all you said, but I admire you for saying it.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Of course I think pulling our troops out of all these countries would be issue number one, but the trade deals and the lobbyists are two major problems that I agree with you on as well.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

what did people expect giving the Republicans 6 years of total control and basically eight. It is the same ole odog and pony show every time they are in control and it looks like they may be again in two years. The country diserves this kind of recession. I said when Obama got elected that it would take a super hero to get us out of this nightmare in 4 years. It will take more than that. I know a few Engineers that can't even find work. Heck the Republicans even got two of their corporate god loving shitbags on the supreme court without much of a fight. Lady from the neighborhood just hung herself because she lost her job and was losing everything else. Times are tough. I hate to be 20 years old right now. tough to even go to college right now because americans are basically being priced out. gonna have to work 15 years just to pay off these ridiculous student loans these greedy schools cost some.

I assume they may be hoping for same results they got in 6 years from 94-2000 when they booted out liberals in similiar proportions with Contract with America.

Will be much tougher job this time as Gumby has put the deficit probably past point of no return.---and still to many liberals left to make any cuts--see The Vote--for reference.

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2786266#post2786266

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

u want them all?
First I would stop being the worlds policeman. Pull everyone out of Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else we are stuck. Cut foreign aid to nothing. We have our own problems. regulate everything. I don't really want to do this but ya have to because a few greedy shit bags ruin it for everyone else. End farm subsidies. Put tariffs on products since these third world nations don't like to follow trade deals. rip up all these rotten trade deals we have in place now just to profit a certain few. End corporate welfare. Fix
gov't welfare. Neuter some of these ass holes if ya have to. U have a baby on crack u immediately have ur tubes tied. If u can find the guy chop his dick off for not wearing a rubber. Socialize natural gas and go right to it and fuk these oil companies. We could do this easy. End lobbying. No more of this horseshit. Make it illegal for a politician to ever work for a firm that lobby's. This is killing the country and the biggest killer of them all. Hegy they were only a few I thought of in two minutes. I'll make adjustments later. As u can see from my list I think I only listed one thing that the Republicans would. Rick Santorum from Pa didn't have a pot to piss in when he went to Congress and now he is a millionaire working for people that he helped with his vote. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Stop this shit with this don't ask don't tell. I hear about this shit every three months. Either end the shit or shut it down. People are losing their homes and all i hear about is this shit over and over again.

I'm pretty much on board with everything, Dr. Sponge. You might be a little more radical on a couple issues, but I'm with you on just about all of it. I'd cut TV advertising for political candidates so that the only way you can appear on TV is in a debate or as a TV show guest. These attack ads have fucked up the whole process.

 

[StevieD]

We have to get people back to work. The tax cuts for the rich failed miserably. We have to get more money in the economy. We have to stop throwing money away in Irag and Afaghanastan.
And we have to give people incentive to buy American and therefore produce American. Plus we have to fix the health care mess. In summary we have to find a way to put money in the middle class guys pocket. At present we are trying to squash the middle class. As for a third party be careful. Look what happened with the Tea Party creeps.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

We have to get people back to work. The tax cuts for the rich failed miserably. We have to get more money in the economy. We have to stop throwing money away in Irag and Afaghanastan.
And we have to give people incentive to buy American and therefore produce American. Plus we have to fix the health care mess. In summary we have to find a way to put money in the middle class guys pocket. At present we are trying to squash the middle class. As for a third party be careful. Look what happened with the Tea Party creeps.

The Tea Party is not a third party. It is a Republican gimmick.

 

[The Sponge]

I assume they may be hoping for same results they got in 6 years from 94-2000 when they booted out liberals in similiar proportions with Contract with America.

Will be much tougher job this time as Gumby has put the deficit probably past point of no return.---and still to many liberals left to make any cuts--see The Vote--for reference.

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2786266#post2786266

This deficit doesn't soar if he walks into what Bush walked into after Clinton. It is called a surplus. He walked into a giant mess and if u didn't see it, you just don't want to. when the debt goes from three trillion to twelve in eight years that is a disgrace. You would think with a debt raising like that he would have created a job or two. At least when Regan blew up the debt like all Republicans do, people were actually working.

 

[The Sponge]

I'm pretty much on board with everything, Dr. Sponge. You might be a little more radical on a couple issues, but I'm with you on just about all of it. I'd cut TV advertising for political candidates so that the only way you can appear on TV is in a debate or as a TV show guest. These attack ads have fucked up the whole process.

Gary that is one thing i would raise taxes for. Campaign spending. No more donations. U give each guy a certain amout and that is it. Now go get ur message across with the money u are allotted. Also set a time table on when u can campiagn. This campaigning two years before an election is rediculous.

 

[Lumi]

u want them all?
First I would stop being the worlds policeman. Pull everyone out of Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else we are stuck. Cut foreign aid to nothing. We have our own problems. regulate everything. I don't really want to do this but ya have to because a few greedy shit bags ruin it for everyone else. End farm subsidies. Put tariffs on products since these third world nations don't like to follow trade deals. rip up all these rotten trade deals we have in place now just to profit a certain few. End corporate welfare. Fix
gov't welfare. Neuter some of these ass holes if ya have to. U have a baby on crack u immediately have ur tubes tied. If u can find the guy chop his dick off for not wearing a rubber. Socialize natural gas and go right to it and fuk these oil companies. We could do this easy. End lobbying. No more of this horseshit. Make it illegal for a politician to ever work for a firm that lobby's. This is killing the country and the biggest killer of them all. Hegy they were only a few I thought of in two minutes. I'll make adjustments later. As u can see from my list I think I only listed one thing that the Republicans would. Rick Santorum from Pa didn't have a pot to piss in when he went to Congress and now he is a millionaire working for people that he helped with his vote. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Stop this shit with this don't ask don't tell. I hear about this shit every three months. Either end the shit or shut it down. People are losing their homes and all i hear about is this shit over and over again.

SPONGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :toast: :toast: :toast:

Most excellent reseponse ! I applaud you for this and high 5 you for the emotional reply off the cuff.

Have you seen Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory on Wall Street ? Just one more thing to make you throw a Fuck Fit !

Sorry ....

Part One...

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[Lumi]

Gary that is one thing i would raise taxes for. Campaign spending. No more donations. U give each guy a certain amout and that is it. Now go get ur message across with the money u are allotted. Also set a time table on when u can campiagn. This campaigning two years before an election is rediculous.

Not that I am in favor of doing ANYTHING THAT THE BRITS DO ! But, Heck 3 month Campaign ?

I begin to hate all of the Candidates, but then again, if they aren't a Third Party, I hate them anyways :0008

 

[Lumi]

The Tea Party is not a third party. It is a Republican gimmick.

Not only is it a gimmick, it is a stolen idea.

Thanks for dropping in Gary :toast: