2003-04 Heineken Cup Rugby

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Neath/Swansea Ospreys vs Edinburgh

Deciding on a late play. I live about 50 minutes from where this game will be played tonight, and it is torrential rain all day, which will have left the pitch very wet, and will alter the pattern of the game.
I can only see this benefiting Edinburgh. They have the superior pack, and will look to play the kind of rugby that beat Toulouse. The conditions will dictate that the game will be kept tight. If the Ospreys were ever going to win the game, then I feel they would have won playing the expansive rugby they have sought to play all season. Playing much tighter rugby in these conditions will not allow it, and Edinburgh will fancy their chances of getting at least a bonus point, but dont rule out a rare away victory in this competition.

1 Point Edinburgh (+6) at 9/10 with BetDirect
 

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The weather conditions will also affect the Cardiff-Leinster match. Very tough to call on the handicap. Leinster are unlikely to allow Cardiff to score too many tries, so Cardiff best hopes of points are the boot of Iestyn Harris. Given the weather will not suit goal kicking, this looks likely to be a low scoring affair. Leinster however, do have the ability to score tries at will, so will opt rather for a sell of Cardiff total points on the spreads. Really cant see Cardiff scoring over twenty points against this Leinster.

0.4 Point Sell Cardiff Points at 16-18 with SportingIndex
 

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Cardiff Blues 19-24 Leinster
Neath/Swansea Ospreys 16-32 Edinburgh
Ulster 22-20 Stade Francais
Toulouse 19-3 Leeds


A great night marred only by a small loss on the spread front. However, well up on the spread so a small loss wont hurt.

Ulster as expected kept me on the edge of my seat all night. 11-9 behind at halftime, and trailing by five at one point of the second half, I was a little worried. However, they dominated large stages of the game without really troubling the scorer, but Paddy Wallace try was crucial.

Edinburgh won us cash again for the third time in the past month. How long layers can continue to underestimate this very strong team is a mystery, but as long as this continues, we will cash in. They have ended the hopes of the Ospreys, but look a good bet to advance to the next stage on this form.

It mystifies me how Cardiff managed to score nineteen points. It was a awful match, played in terrible conditions. However, I feel Leinster were always in control, and Cardiff looked like scoring only through the boot of Iestyn Harris.

Back later with tomorrows picks.

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Saturday 13th December

A lot of bets appealed to me today. Was willing to play up to five bets, but have narrowed down to three for Saturday.

Northampton vs Agen

A profitable angle I expect to cash in on this tournament is a direct result of last years domination of the tournament by the French clubs. Last season, the French teams were slightly under rated, which led to some generous lines and good profits. This season is somewhat contrasting. The lines are heavily in favour of the French, and at this stage, it seems French rugby has hopped back on its perch of being unbeatable at home, but vulnerable away. These French teams are still high quality opposition, but I feel the edge lies with the English and Irish teams in this years competition.
A good example of what I am saying applies to this Northampton-Agen fixture. Agen are probably not entitled to be only worthy of a nine point start. They are playing in their first Heineken Cup, were not convincing against the poor Scottish Borders last weekend, and tend to be a little ill disciplined. They are not a team littered with international players, but are rather a tight tough team, who can beat anybody at home. However, there is a pattern developing here. They have lost four of their last four away matches in the French Championship (heard that before??;) ), and defensively look very vulnerable.
The Saints are a team who have been there and done it in this format. Previous winners, they will look to deny the French a bonus point on their home patch. They were awful last week against Llanelli, and only the Pope can tell me how they kept the margin to only a five point loss. Offensively they seemed to lack options, and although very impressive defensively, they had to rely on the boot of Paul Grayson to keep them in the game. Grayson himself, may see a lot of the ball tomorrow. Expect the Saints to have a number of penalty chances from the ill disciplined French. They may well fall short of scoring four tries, but denying opposition a bonus point is a mini victory in itself during this stage, and I think layers may have given this French outfit a little too much respect on this occasion.

1 Point Northampton (-9) at 10/11 with PaddyPower

Calivasano vs London Wasps

Stepping into the unknown a little here by backing a Italian team with a good start.
The Wasps are certainly leading contenders to lift the title in May, but looking at Warren Gatlands selection, he may well settle for a win, rather than seeking a bonus point. He has left out Josh Lewsey, Lawrence Dallaglio, Rob Howley, Simon Shaw and Craig Dowd. You take five world class players out of any team, and you are severely weakened.
The Italians have actually been the one Italian team who have been worthy of their place in the Heineken Cup. They have given some big sides the shakes at their home ground in recent seasons. The more important factor is that they have shown that they can score points at will. They have scored plenty in recent Heineken Cup matches back home in Italy, and I am banking on them scoring up to twenty against the Wasps. If I am right, then the Wasps would have to score near fifty points to cover the spread, and I think that is a tall order at this stage of competition.

1 Point Calivasano (+24) at 10/11 with PaddyPower

May upgrade this to a two point bet overnight. Not decided as yet.

Perpignan vs Celtic Warriors

Looking at a mighty backlash here, after last seasons finalists were outplayed in every department by London Wasps last weekend. They will base their qualification hopes on being unbeatable at home, in what is known as the 'bullring'. It is considered one of the hardest grounds in Europe, to go and win a rugby match, and this match looks like it has come way too soon for the newly formed Celtic Warriors side.
The Warriors will actually improve as the season progresses, and will be a top side in Europe next season. However, they are very much on a learning curve at this level. Although they field a backline to match anything else at this level, they should be smashed to bits upfront, and will be hard pressed to stop the kind of robust forward dominated rugby this French team love to play. At fly half you have a genius called Manny Edmonds, who should thrive on quality ball tomorrow.
A game in which Perpignan will definitely look to score four or more tries to secure a bonus point, and if they are in the mood to play for eighty minutes, it could get ugly.

1 Point Perpignan (-15) at 10/11 with SkyBet
 

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:Yep: :spotting: :Yep: :spotting:

Ulster with the big win!!!

Unfortunately I missed your 2nd play by 1 freakin minute! :mad:

I need to get a 24 hour 'Crooky-alert pager'!

Good news is I had Blues + 8! Sometimes, I can be 'da man' too! :D
 

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On the spreadfront, it appears there is a opportunity to make a large bet at a minimum risk.

Munster vs Benetton Treviso

One thing to be certain of is that Munster will look to score at least four tries to be assured of a bonus point. Anything less will be considered a failure, and the fact that the Irish have named a full strength line up suggests they are not in the mood to mess about with these Italians.
Scoring over five tries looks to be well within their capabilities. Assuming they score at least four tries, then a loss of just over a point would not be a disaster.

1 Point Buy Munster Total Tries at 5.35 with IGIndex
 

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I just noticed 8 tries in that Munster game so once again you cash good on the Index Crooky! Damn.....I gotta do something to get an Index account. :(
 

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No bets today (Sunday). Had already taken Leicester (-10) yesterday with Stan James, but they have since moved their line to thirteen points and are 8/13.

May add a spread bet later. :)
 

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Biarritz 31-3 Sale
Munster 51-0 Treviso
Perpignan 26-19 Celtic Warriors
Gloucester 49-13 Bourgoin
Northampton 25-10 Agen
Calivasano 33-52 London Wasps
Leicester 34-3 Gwent Dragons
Scottish Borders 10-41 Llanelli Scarlets


Heineken Cup : P1

Team P W D L F A Diff TB LB PTS
Leicester 2 1 0 1 50 29 20 1 0 5
Stade Francais/CASG 2 1 0 1 47 37 9 0 1 5
Ulster 2 1 0 1 37 44 -7 0 0 4
Gwent Dragons 2 1 0 1 27 49 -22 0 0 4

Heineken Cup : P2

Team P W D L F A Diff TB LB PTS
Edinburgh 2 2 0 0 56 32 23 1 0 9
Toulouse 2 1 0 1 36 26 9 0 1 5
Leeds Tykes 2 1 0 1 32 39 -7 0 0 4
Neath-Swansea Ospreys 2 0 0 2 36 61 -25 0 0 0

Heineken Cup : P3

Team P W D L F A Diff TB LB PTS
Leinster 2 2 0 0 57 25 31 1 0 9
Biarritz 2 1 0 1 38 35 2 1 0 5
Sale 2 1 0 1 29 55 -26 0 0 4
Cardiff Blues 2 0 0 2 45 50 -7 0 2 2

Heineken Cup : P4

Team P W D L F A Diff TB LB PTS
Llanelli Scarlets 2 2 0 0 56 19 36 1 0 9
Northampton 2 1 0 1 35 24 10 0 1 5
Agen 2 1 0 1 38 33 4 1 0 5
Scottish Borders 2 0 0 2 18 68 -50 0 0 0

Heineken Cup : P5

Team P W D L F A Diff TB LB PTS
Gloucester 2 2 0 0 84 25 57 2 0 10
Munster 2 2 0 0 70 17 52 1 0 9
Bourgoin 2 0 0 2 31 67 -37 0 1 1
Treviso 2 0 0 2 12 84 -72 0 0 0

Heineken Cup : P6

Team P W D L F A Diff TB LB PTS
Wasps 2 2 0 0 81 40 40 1 0 9
Celtic Warriors 2 1 0 1 55 51 2 1 1 6
Perpignan 2 1 0 1 34 47 -14 1 0 5
Amatori Calvisano 2 0 0 2 59 86 -28 1 0 1

 

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Heineken Cup takes a break now for Christmas, and fixtures resume on 9th January 2004.

Has been a pleasing start again, and very confident capping these games. Some of the lines released are begging to be hit hard, and lets hope it remains into next year.

2003-04 Heineken Cup Handicapping Record :

7-3 (70%) + 5.64 Units (+?564 Calculated to a ?100 Unit Stake)

2003-04 Heineken Cup Spreads Record :

4-1 (80%) + 11.37 Units (+?1137 Calculated to a ?100 Unit Stake)

2003-04 Overall Heineken Cup Record :

11-4 (73%) + 17.01 (+?1701 Calculated to a ?100 Unit Stake)

Back in the new year.....in the meantime, will be updating the Celtic League thread as that tournament resumes on Friday.

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Round 3
Fri 9 Jan 19:30 Pool 2 Edinburgh Rugby v Leeds Tykes
Fri 9 Jan 19:30 Pool 4 Llanelli Scarlets v Agen
Fri 9 Jan 19:45 Pool 3 Leinster Lions v Sale Sharks RTE / Sky
Sat 10 Jan 14:30 Pool 1 Dragons v Stade Fran?ais
Sat 10 Jan 14:30 Pool 5 Benetton Treviso v Bourgoin
Sat 10 Jan 15:00 Pool 4 Northampton Saints v The Borders
Sat 10 Jan 16:00 Pool 2 Toulouse v Ospreys FR2 / Sky
Sat 10 Jan 17:00 Pool 5 Gloucester v Munster Sky
Sat 10 Jan 18:30 Pool 3 Biarritz Olympique v Cardiff Blues Sport+
Sat 10 Jan 19:00 Pool 6 Perpignan v Calvisano
Sun 11 Jan 13:00 Pool 1 Ulster v Leicester Tigers Sky
Sun 11 Jan 15:00 Pool 6 London Wasps v Celtic Warriors Sky
 

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Congratulations on the hot start Crooky. It is proving to be another profitable Heineken Cup for you. Just in case I don't get a chance to converse with you again before the holidays, have a Merry Christmas and a happy holiday season.
 
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