5th Test Aust v Eng

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With no McGrath or Warne, England may fancy themselves to win this one. The only problem for England will be the fact they have struggled to bowl Australia out. Hogg will play for Mcgrath with Gillespie and Lee along with MacGill to make up the bowling attack. Their should be some value aroun for England as every bookie in Australia has laid 5-0 and 4-0 for the series result. Australia are priced at around $1.40, this is unders as this was the same price for the 1st test. Vaughan and Trescothick will relish the losser bowling from Lee etc and the smaller SCG should help their out feilding. Dawson bowled poorly last test but will be better for the run. Tudor should come in for White, and Stewert should play even though Foster kept well.

Taking England $13 @cricketbet
 

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Pumpkin

You have wanted the dog in just about every match versus the Aussies this year. Give it up brother!!! Poms to go down hard again

.....mind you I've got he Aussies 4-0 and 4-1 so I hope they don't sweep!! I read that we haven't swept the Ashes since the 1920s.

Good luck on your play
 

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Here we go again.

Dissapointed McGrath not playing, didn't bowl upto his very high standard in 4th test and now my anti post wager on top wicket taker in series will be a loser.
I to backed Australia to win 3-0, 4-0 or 5-0 so if Aussies win or draw we have a winner.
In the top batsman for the series market we have Hayden and Langer. Presently leading with Hayden and the only real danger to us not collecting is Ponting.

A clean sweep is very much on the cards. It may be 80 years since the last whitewash, but as I have posted here several times, through injuries, England have played a third XI bowling attack and if the Aussies cant make 500+ runs against the worst attack England have had in the last 30 years then something is drastically wrong.

England showed some spirit in the 4th test but unless they can sustain that level of performance for every session, and that is what it will take, then the whitewash will be a formality.

Playing a few markets and plays will be posted later.
 

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Plays for the 5th Test.

(As an insurance bet)
ENGLAND to win @ 12/1 for 0.5 points

Player performance market (bet365)

MACGILL over 105 @ 4/5 for 1 point
GILLESPIE over 85 @ 5/6 for 1 point

Macgill should bowl in excess of 60 overs in this game as the same tactics will be used as in the previous test when he bowled continually from one end. Six wickets in the match may be a tall order, but the English batsman will look to attack Macgill and that could spell danger. Gillespie bowled extremly well in the last test. He continues to be economical and the persistant line he takes frustrates the batsman. A repeat performance in this test will see us collect.
 

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Bulldog

I'm surprised you didn't take the +150 run handicap offered @ Bet365. I was just waiting for your lead :D Down to +100 now after a handy days play by your boys (even with the sluggish run rate!) Still a bit tempting to me.

I too have Macgill in the performance market along with Lee 90 and over. Batting, I took Hayden 105 and over.
Our blokes look tired. we could be heading for a draw (hopefully!)
Macgill had better pull his finger out :eek:

Good luck pommy :thefinger
 

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posting minutes before start of day2.

if I played handicap first innings play Aussies -100.5. Dont forget one more wicket and four rabbits left. England do well to make 350, it all depends how long Stewart and Crawley can remain at the crease.

Good luck in all your plays, I've been conservative last two tests. Don't want to lose profits at this late stage. Rather wait for the ODI's and World Cup.
 

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Ya know folks.......

Sometimes, during what seems like an endless scrolling of sports viewing from one event to another, an occasion sticks in your mind like a photo on the fridge. A snapshot in time never to be forgotten (unless earlier than expected onset of Alzheimers!!).

This afternoon was another one of those moments. Australia struggling for the first time this summer against the English cricket team. Chasing a respectable (by English standards) 362, the Aussies were in trouble at 3 for 56 when out strides one Steven Rodger Waugh, embattled Australian Test Captain. The knives are out for him. The selectors want him replaced in the test team. He isn't named in the Aussie World Cup squad. Could it be his last test at his home ground , the S.C.G?? :shrug: :eek:

Over the course of the next 3 hours my man smacks the 'bejesus' out of the pommy bowling attack at a 'one day rate' of 102 off 130 balls faced, bringing up his century on the very last ball of the day.
I gotta tell ya....I kinda "teared up"
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as I stood there clapping in my lounge room watching him walk off the ground to a standing ovation. I was in that mystical zone as the moment was etched into my memory forever. (I was then quickly brought out of the zone as my wife yelled out at me to shut-up with the noise!!)

I salute you "tugger", as a fair-dinkum Aussie sporting great. And may God have mercy on the souls of those who conspire to oust you. Long may you reign as Captain of the Aussie Test team.

STEVE WAUGH >>>> LEGEND
 

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Nice post Pawaqatsi.

It was a terrific performance by Waugh. He is un-doubtably the best Aussie skipper in the last 50 years.

One just knew when he walked to the wicket that we were about to witness one of his best innings in recent years. At is home ground, in front of his supporters, the Australian nation willing him on, apart from some of the selectors.

If it was my choice I would keep in Captain for the tour to the Windies and tour to India where he has failed to win a series, the only blot on his C.V.

One thing is for sure the Aussie selectors have always seemed to get it right when it comes to players be dropped or making debut. Remember Mark Waugh (not been missed) recently. Add to this players of the calibre of Taylor, Border, Jones, Boon, who all got dropped when people said they had three or four years left in them.


Back to the 5th test, those that backed England can now make a very tidy profit regardless of the outcome as Australia are 4/6 and the draw 5/1.

This game is equally poised and the first session on day 3 could well decide the outcome of the match.
 

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convinced that the only way to profit on cricket is to bet in the run, so taking 13.0 before the jump wasn't such a bad move.

Here's a piece of editorial I wrote earlier...

Day 2 at the SCG had everything ? a crusty old man with chickenpox making 71, the draw shortening into favourite briefly for probably the first time in the series, and a defiant century by the man the Aussie selectors want to pension off. Now we have a great betting match on our hands that is certain to ebb and flow even more. Australia began day two at 1.62 and drifted as far at 2.86 until the dismissal of Stewart, and were even displaced as favourite by the draw which traded briefly at 2.26. Two quick wickets to Bichel and the Aussies were back in the red within minutes and into 1.50 at the change of innings. When Langer fell to put Australia behind the eight-ball at 3-56, it was even money for the home side and any price above 3.0 for the visitors was being snapped up instantly. The ship was steadied with the price returning to 1.62 again until the wickets of Martyn and Love put Australia in the black briefly before the emotion-charged last hour cut the Australian price to 1.66 at stumps. Thoughts of an English fightback early on day 3 have yet to be supported, as Australia continue to firm overnight, back to where they started the second day ? 1.62.


You might see this at OnThePunt if they print it - wrote it rather late. And in case you're wondering, I'm working for Betfair at the moment.
 
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british bulldog said:
This game is equally poised and the first session on day 3 could well decide the outcome of the match.

Agree wholeheartedly BB, 1.62 Australia is a ridiculous quote at present. Lay it solidly as one early wicket and they are out to evens at least.
 

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All through day three I played the markets backing and laying and now I am in the situation where I have layed a book at the following;
Australia to win @ 4/6 (60%)
England to win @ 6/4 (40%)
Draw @ 7/4 (36.36%)

A very tidy of profit of 36.36% of stakes

I have backed the above plays as follows;
Australia @ 6/4 (40%)
England @ 9/2 (18.18%)
Draw @ 5/1 (16.66%)

A very tidy profit guaranteed of 25.16% of stakes



On to more urgent matters and Day4.

If England can bat to tea and lead by 400 runs then this game is out of reach of Australia. Any lead of 300+ on the last day and the 4th innings is a tall mountain and is on achieved once every ten or so times.

I am making one further play at present.

LAY AUSTRALIA AT 6/4 (betting for Australia not to win the test)
Risking 3 units to win 2

NOW THE REST OF THE CRICKET WORLD, SIT UP AND TAKE NOTE

Australia are not invincible, it is two players that are. Christ knows what the Aussies are going to do a few years down the line.
It is well known that England are only an average team in test match cricket.

Here are the facts that should give the Aussies concern for the future. Before this test match Australia had either McGrath or Warne or both playing for 54 consecutive tests.

The first three tests with both playing Australia hammer England in each one of them winning by an innings and a bucket load of runs. In the 4th Test without Warne Australia only manage to win by 5 wickets and now in the 5th test without McGrath and Warne they could very possibly lose.

So you Aussies, you just better pray that you have players of the calibre of these two players around the corner in the next few years, because if you haven't you will become an also ran in terms of world cricket. You cannot argue with the stats, I've even been back through the last four years and without Warne Australia although still winning have not dominated countries as they would do with him.
 

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Calm down Derek, we have not even got a W on the board against any Aussie team on this tour, and already you are jumping on the bandwagon.

You have made some very valid points this series. We are indeed fielding a very weak bowling attack, but there is simply not enough strength in depth. Darren Gough would not have made the slightest ounce of difference this series, as he is simply nowhere near the player he was.

We also have players who have over peformed, namely one Mark Butcher. How the hell he and Crawley, are still in the England team I will never know. He has been given chance upon chance and still fails miserably in the England batting line up. Perhaps my Welsh bias is showing through here, but English cricket has always been 'jobs for the boys'. There are more talented batsman sat here in Wales at home writing local newspaper columns, than Crawley, Key and Crawley. I am referring to Steve James, Matthew Maynard, who had they been playing for the fashionable counties of English cricket would have won a hatful of test matches.

I think you are wrong to suggest the Aussies may struggle in years to come. Of course the fact that McGrath and Warne are missing will affect their performance. Take Ronaldo and Ronaldinho out of Brazils soccer team, take Martin Johnson and Johnny Wilkinson out of the English rugby team, Brett Favre out of the Packers NFL outfit, you get the picture I am sure.

As in most other sports, the fact that the Aussies have such a fine sporting academy will mean they will always produce world class sportsmen/women, and I will end the series by saying they have been a joy to watch this series. Ok, a poor England team, but I will pay good money to watch this Aussies test team any time.
 

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Thanks for all your replys.

Firstly Crooky, you are right Butcher and Crawley should not be in the test team. If Flintoff had been fit, Crawley would not have played and if Thorpe had decided to tour then it would have been one of Butcher or Key to miss out.
You have a very short memory, Maynard played a number of tests for England when he was at his best, and as with most English batsman he was a failure. As for James, well he hasn't got the ability and there are many youngsters who are far better players. Further more it has been mentioned by numerous Australians on TV that the young Australian players put through or presently in the academy are not up to the standard. Food for thought!

Pawaqatsi, what I am saying is that the likes of McGrath and Warne are out of the very, very top draw and Australia will miss them as players of this calibre come along every twenty or so years. Look how long it took to replace Lillee and Thompson. The same with the Windies, now Croft and Ambrose have gone they have nothing.

Finally, once more we play against twelve men, the twelth being Umpire TIFFIN. How the f--k he could give Vaughan out LBW is beyond anyone. It was clearly going over the stumps by 8 inches or more. Not only did this prevent him from achieving his highest test score, he would have more than probably made a double century.
 

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As an Aussie.....I can only sit back and chuckle at the Vaughn dismissal. :D :D :D

Your'e gonna win this one pommy, so stop complaining!!!

..............er...you did have the Aussies 4-1 like me....didn't you???
LOL :D :cool:
 

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Pawaqatsi, it was a good shout your 4-0 or 4-1 to Australia, either way your on a winner.

No I didn't have 4-1, played 3-0, 4-0, or 5-0. However played England this test at 12/1 so covered all stakes and made small profit whichever way it goes. Also played Hayden top Aussie batsman so unless Martyn or Gilchrist score in excess of 200 runs I should collect here as well.

Anyway my reason for this post was "I DONT BELIEVE IT". Two Australian batsman given out LBW when clearly it wasn't out. Both Langer and Hayden can think themselves unlucky. But what the heck , England have had shit decissions all series.

Furthermore, what a spoilt f--king brat Hayden is. One poor decission and he spits his dummy out of the pram and smashes the dressing room window. So Hayden this ones for you :cry: :nono: and just incase you forgot the umpire gave you the :thefinger
 

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As for James, well he hasnt got the ability

Lets think back to a certain Wales-England fixture, where Wales not only won by eight wickets, but my man James knocked the English bowling attack all over the park. This was a better seam attack than what the Aussies are facing now, and at a county level who is consistently near the top of the averages?? Yes Steve James.

As for Maynard, my point is, yes, he had a few tests, but they give Crawley, Butcher and co repeated attempts to justify themselves as test batsmen, while Maynard was ousted after just a few. As I said it will always remain 'jobs for the boys' in English cricket.

Congratulations to you on a profitable series. Look forward to your World Cup posts!
 
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