9/16 thru 9/18 (OSU/NCSU)

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some more plays:

2 Unit Plays: "/" is 2nd time buying into play
Clemson -2 (-105)/ (-102)
Middle Tenn. State -2.5 (-105)/(-101)
Kansas +3 (-105)/+2.5 (+101)
NCSU +3 (-105)/ML (+104) :sadwave:
Hawaii -2 (-102)

1 Unit Plays:
Maryland +7 (-105)
Kansas +3 (-105)
Wisconsin -10 (-105)
UConn +8 (-108)
VT -27 (-108)

now just waiting on totals :142lmao:

glta


toy :)
 
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i hardly ever play opening lines unless i'm speculating for a middle, so when i saw state open at +3 i was ready to load up on the wolfpack with the intention of standing pat. now with the point and a half line move i'm leery and glad i didn't. it just seems that, over the years, home dogs that turn into big public plays always fall flat. i'll stay with a small play on the wolfpack, probably moneyline, because i really think the wolfpack steps up and takes this game, but it won't be as much as i intended to play to start with.

mw,

don't really like teeasing in ncaa football, but i wouldn't bother teasing the jackets down - tarheels are in trouble again. the heels just lost their best offensive lineman, skip seagraves, for the season. he is a fifth year senior who rotated at both guard and tackle. besides losing his leadership, bunting has to find two linemen to take his place. their offense will definely suffer.

expect to see some juggling and younger faces in the tarheel defensive backfield also. carolina's secondary, once a team strong suit, hasn't had a pick in 11 games, and lately hasn't been much help against the run either. i believe the jackets will go through them like sh*t through a goose. i also believe bunting is gone after this year, and spurrier is in.
 

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LOOP and Anil, FWIW, Ga tech is my best play this weekend.... Can't understand why the line has dropped from 11 to 8???? :scared
hope you got it when it dropped Chad

GT should win, but am waiting on that total.... :rolleyes:

Loop: think the Pack will win...would be a big one...

funny that i am flying to Columbus tomorrow morning as their team is coming into town :142lmao:
 

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...got it -8. :) ...will get more if it drops below 7. ;)


GL this weekend, buddy. :)
thx Chad, back at ya;)...heading to C-Bus to see my 2 week old nephew

got him a bunch of NCSU gear to wear during the game :142lmao:

...heard that to tailgate for this weekend's game, you have to have a ticket for the game already to be able to park on the same side as C-F stadium and the RBC Center....all due to those idiots
 

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Buckeyes, Pack Keeping an Eye on Ivan
Remnants of Hurricane Ivan could leave Ohio State and NC State all wet.


Sept. 16, 2004

By Tony Haynes

There's a new `Ivan the Terrible' making its presence felt, and it could very well be a major player in Saturday's big college football game between Ohio State and NC State at Carter-Finley Stadium. In this case, Hurricane Ivan, which is hammering the gulf coast, will be meandering its way up the southeast region over the next few days. And if its forecasted track continues, the storm could leave fans, players and coaches soaked to the bone when the Buckeyes and Wolfpack stage their much anticipated rematch at 3:30 p.m.

Last year's meeting, a triple overtime classic in Columbus that was eventually won by Ohio State 44-38, was played on a picture-perfect afternoon Ohio Stadium. This time, however, the two clubs may not be as fortunate.

So who would have the edge in rainy weather? Would it be the team that likes to grind it out on the ground like Ohio State or the Wolfpack, a club that employs more of a passing attack?

The Buckeyes are, of course, perceived to be the stereotypical Big Ten-type team that tries to wear its opponents down with a jackhammer running game. It's a style that suits them well, especially when the weather can become cold and nasty in November.

"I never really stopped to think of it," said Ohio State coach Jim Tressel. "I don't know that Big Ten teams are built for bad weather. I don't know if anyone is built for bad weather. Most ballgames come down to who makes the least mistakes and who makes the most big plays, and it may be magnified in poor weather conditions."

And when it comes to mistakes, Tressel has to be concerned somewhat since his Buckeyes are minus-7 in the takeaway/giveaway ratio over the first two games. Still, however, Ohio State managed to win both contests.

"Most of the time when you're down seven in the turnover department like we are you expect to be 0-2 and not 2-0," said Tressel, whose defense has yet to take the ball away through two games. "[The turnovers] have to stop and we need to start getting a few of our own."

Although sophomore quarterback Justin Zwick has completed 32-of-56 passes for 537 and four touchdowns in his first two career starts, he has also thrown four interceptions to this point.

Of course, early season downpours are nothing new for NC State or its fans. Four of the Wolfpack's last six season openers have been played in wet conditions. Still, to have any chance of hanging with the Buckeyes, the Pack will have to slow down the running game, whether the playing conditions are sloppy or not.

"We're young up front defensively, but we've got some speed and we're quick," said NC State head coach Chuck Amato. "One way to negate that is to run right at it on a wet field. They certainly can run the ball whether it's a wet field or a dry field. They're going to test us. I don't know how well we're going to play against the run."

Along with the overall playing conditions, the footballs can also become a major issue. Each team will have their own footballs and will have a plentiful supply available in hopes of keeping dry balls on the field as much as possible. During one of the Pack's wet weather games a few years ago, NC State equipment manager Eddie Gardner had a total of 18 footballs on hand.

Otherwise, both coaches say preparations for the game will remain the same, regardless of the forecast.

"Obviously, you can't predict and you've got to handle it whether you like it or not," Tressel said. "I think all of us within our game plans have things that might be more conducive to poor weather and good weather. But no, I don't look at us sitting here saying it's going to rain and changing our game plan.
 

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Raleigh, NC -- While Wolfpack Head Coach Chuck Amato fielded questions today from the media, the biggest news may have been who was being carted off the field.
Lucas No Longer With the Team

McLendon



Wolfpack junior tailback T.A. McLendon was carted off the field following practice today while Amato met with the media. McLendon looked to be in excruciating pain as he had his leg extended and a towel hanging over his head.

NC State officials declined comment, only mentioning that the injury report will be issued on Friday as done every week
 

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Wow, tough break. Sorry to hear that. I'd like to see y'all win this one.
 

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nothing against t.a., he's a great back, but state is very deep at running back and should lose very little. love to see the line go back to +3.
 

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little bit conflicitng than yesterday, but both gopack and statefans has this:

McLendon Probable for Ohio State
Junior tailback practiced without incident this week.


Sept. 17, 2004

By Tony Haynes

Raleigh, N.C. - NC State running back T.A. McLendon, who was held out of the Wolfpack's season opener against Richmond because of a pulled hamstring, has been listed as probable for Saturday's 3:30 p.m. contest against Ohio State. The 2002 ACC Rookie of the Year was injured during the second week of two-a-days and didn't return to practice in earnest until last Sunday. With McLendon out, freshmen runners Bobby Washington and Darrell Blackman got the lion's share of carries in the 42-0 romp over the Spiders.

NC State has also gotten good news on the availability of two offensive linemen. Sophomore Derek Morris, who turned an ankle in the first quarter versus Richmond, is also listed as probable for this weekend. After being sidelined for most of preseason camp with a broken foot, back-up center Kalani Heppe should also be available for duty against the Buckeyes.





Along with McLendon, starting rover Andre Maddox returned to practice this week after sitting out the Richmond game with a pulled hamstring.

Two other players will not see action on Saturday. Offensive linemen Merci Falaise is out with a knee sprain, while guard/center Luke Lathan will be sidelined by a sprained MCL.

INJURY REPORT
NC State vs. Ohio State

PROBABLE
T.A. McLendon, TB - Hamstring strain
Kalani Heppe, OL - Broken foot
Derek Morris, OL - Ankle sprain


OUT
Merci Falaise, OL - knee sprain
Luke Lathan, C - MCL sprain

...........not really liking that the Pack is now a fav

will update if i see/hear anything else later tonight...no need for a writeup since i think the stories should be sufficient and i would just be saying the same things....no ACC leans this week cause I have been piss poor on em....maybe next week

gl everyone and GO Pack!
 

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added plays: probably final plays except the UNC/GT total

added plays: probably final plays except the UNC/GT total

2 Unit Plays: "/" is 2nd time buying into play
Clemson -2 (-105)/ (-102)
Middle Tenn. State -2.5 (-105)/(-101)
Kansas +3 (-105)/+2.5 (+101)
NCSU +3 (-105)/ML (+104)
Hawaii -2 (-102)

1 Unit Plays:
Maryland +7 (-105)
Wisconsin -10 (-105)
UConn +8 (-108)
VT -27 (-108)
Indiana +1.5 (-102)
Notre Dame -3 (-110)
Tenn. -3 (-105)
UNLV -5.5 (-110)


lot of plays :142lmao:

gl everyone


toy :)
 

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Saturday a special day for Morgan
Ex-Ohio State recruit wound up at N.C. State after horrific automobile accident


By John Delong
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RALEIGH

When DaJuan Morgan suffered multiple injuries in an automobile accident a little more than a year ago, he would not allow himself to cry in front of rescue workers and his mother.

But months later, when Morgan was told that Ohio State had taken his football scholarship offer off the table, he broke down and cried for a full half-hour.

Football players can endure physical pain. Dealing with shattered dreams is something altogether different.

And that makes Morgan another of the many interesting story lines in Saturday's showdown between Ohio State and N.C. State at Carter-Finley Stadium.

Morgan, a wide receiver from Riviera Beach, Fla., wound up signing with the Wolfpack last February. He's still working his way up the depth chart and won't likely see much action on offense Saturday, but he is a starter on State's special-teams units.

"This game is going to be special for me," Morgan said earlier this week. "It's going to be different - just coming out to play Ohio State after what I've been through, knowing that I could be on that sideline but instead I'm on this sideline. I have a goal to show them what they're missing. I start on punt return, so I want to block a kick or something. I want to do something big."

State, 1-0 after a 42-0 win over Richmond on Sept. 4, rates as a slight underdog against the ninth-ranked Buckeyes. Ohio State is 2-0.

Morgan was a prized recruiting target after his junior year at Suncoast High, rated as the No. 27 wide-receiver prospect in the country by Rivals.com. In the summer leading up to his senior year, he was heavily recruited by the likes of Oklahoma, Florida, Tennessee - and, of course, Ohio State and N.C. State.

Then came the horrific events of Aug. 22, when Morgan, his brother and two friends were involved in a head-on collision with a truck. Morgan, in the back seat, was knocked unconscious briefly and was trapped in the wreckage. He wound up suffering a dislocated hip, broken thumb, and cuts and bruises.

The memories remain haunting, especially the panic he felt when he was trapped and someone told him that gas was spewing and the car could catch on fire.

"My hip locked on me," he said. "It was the worst pain I've ever felt. I couldn't move. I heard a voice say 'This car is leaking, it might catch on fire,' so like, I was panicking. I got to get out. The driver, Melvin, he was slumped over, the blood was pouring out of his mouth. I heard my little brother screaming and crying. He thought I was dead."

Help arrived quickly, and all four were pulled out of the wreckage alive.

And at that point, Morgan vividly remembers making sure not to cry.

"The ambulance came, and then the chopper came, and then my mom came. I was lying there on the stretcher and she said, 'Baby, you all right?' I almost cried. But she was so strong, and she has so much faith, I didn't want to cry in front of her."

The dislocated hip ended Morgan's senior season before it started and put his football future in serious jeopardy. Morgan missed four weeks of school and needed eight weeks of mending before he could even start serious rehabilitation. He was told that he would be able to play football again, but the question was, would the injury discourage recruiters from continuing to pursue him.

Ohio State and N.C. State remained interested, however, and each kept its scholarship offer on the table.

Morgan took his official visit to Columbus in late November, watched the Buckeyes beat Purdue in overtime in front of 104,000 at Ohio Stadium, and came away mesmerized. He loved the atmosphere. He loved the thought of playing for the defending national champions. And most of all, he wanted to play for Coach Jim Tressel.

"When I first met Tressel, I mean, I just loved Tressel," he said. "There was something about him, I wanted to play for that man. I mean, he ran everything so smooth when they were in meetings before the game, things like that. I just like the way he addressed the players. I came home from my visit, and I was like, 'Man, that was nice. I want to play for this team. I like this.'"

He committed to Ohio State shortly thereafter, more than two months before national signing day in February.

But then, things turned bizarre.

As national signing day approached, Morgan was informed that Tressel and Bill Conley, Ohio State's recruiting coordinator, would visit. Morgan said he was under the impression that Tressel was coming to meet with his parents and firm up any remaining details.

Instead, only Conley showed up. And when he did, he met with Morgan's coach, Jimmie Bell, not Morgan. And he had shocking news.

The scholarship offer was being retracted because of grade issues, even though Morgan had a 3.25 grade-point average and had already scored 18 on his ACT - easily above requirements to play Division I football.

A provision in Ohio State's admissions requirements says that students must rank in the top 50 percent of their class, or they must be approved by an admissions board. Morgan, they said, was two percentage points shy at Suncoast.

"I knew something was going on when Conley left," Morgan said. "My coach had a look on his face I'd never seen. He said, 'Coach Conley didn't tell you why they were coming here, did he?' And I was like, no, I thought we were going to talk like we always do, and then they were going to come meet my parents.

"So my coach is like, 'OK, here's what is going on. Ohio State has changed to the Ivy League something and their standards are higher and there is something called admission fees and you have to have points add up to 50 percent, and you're missing two percent.' I was still lost, so I said, 'Coach, break it down for me, I still don't know what you're talking about.

"And he said, 'Right now, your scholarship's being put on hold.'"

The impact was more powerful than a head-on collision.

Morgan said he immediately broke down and started crying.

"I was like, 'I committed to Ohio State, I cut off everyone else, I didn't take all my visits, I gave them my word - and here it is two weeks from signing date and this comes?' I just stayed there like 30 minutes crying. My mom called for me, and I couldn't even talk to her.

"I mean, everybody in the community knew where I was going. It was always, Ohio State, Ohio State. And it was like, after all I'd been through, more adversity now. All that rehabbing I did, it was in anticipation of coming back 100 percent so I could play for the Buckeyes."

Morgan tracked down Conley and met with him in Fort Lauderdale later in the day. Conley offered several options, including prep school or grayshirting; i.e., enrolling a quarter or two late.

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But the damage had been done.

"I was like, 'Nah. I worked hard to keep my grades over 3.0 so I wouldn't have to go to prep school,'" Morgan said. "That was out of the picture. And coming in in January was out of the picture, too."

Bell contacted N.C. State on Morgan's behalf shortly thereafter, and State made it clear that its offer was still on the table. Morgan visited Raleigh the next weekend, committed on the spot, and wound up signing on national signing day.

Questions arose quickly about Ohio State's motives for pulling the offer, especially after Morgan's grades were examined further. Suncoast is a school with accelerated programs, not a regular public high school, so the fact that Morgan didn't rank in the top half of his class was skewed.

"I was in a college prep program," Morgan said. "We have so many top-notch programs, we're really like a small college. My guidance counselor, she said had I been in a public school, I'd have been near the top of my class. And the thing is, they knew my grades all along. When they started recruiting me, I had a 3.2. My grades didn't change at all."

And there were indications that Ohio State might have wanted to free up a scholarship to recruit other receivers who entered the picture late in the recruiting process. Another wide receiver, Miles Williams, also had an offer pulled after making a commitment, and wound up at Michigan State.

So what really happened?

"I think they weren't sure about me being able to play, and they were taking a big risk on me, and I think they probably had their eye on another player," Morgan said. "They were recruiting others (Dwayne Jarrett and Fred Davis, who went to Southern Cal, and Albert Dukes, who signed with Ohio State), and those guys were probably ready to come in and play right away."

Morgan said he has tried to get over his bitterness, but he still feels betrayed.

"The thing that hurt me the most was they didn't tell me to my face, they left the message with my coach," Morgan said. "I never talked to Coach Tressel. He never called to apologize."

Conley, coincidentally, resigned last spring after 17 seasons as Ohio State's recruiting coordinator to enter private business.

"I think they know they screwed up," Morgan said. "My guidance counselor was from Ohio State, and a lot of the alumni sent her e-mails saying how they thought that was crap, and their wishes go out to me and good luck. So I think they know they messed up."

Tressel declined to comment on the Morgan situation earlier this week, saying he could not talk about recruits who wound up elsewhere.

On signing day, however, Tressel did address the situations of Morgan and Williams to reporters who regularly cover Ohio State football.

"You'd have to take a hard look at what retract means," he said to the Akron Beacon-Journal. "When all the visits are taken and all the evaluations are made, that's when scholarships are offered. When a national letter and a Big Ten tender is mailed and when it's signed, that's the only two times it's official."

Morgan said he is trying to move on.

"I've put a lot of pressure on myself this week, but I'm trying to relax about it," Morgan said. "I've talked to my parents, and we don't have no animosity to Ohio State now. I mean, at first in the process, that happened. But I'm a man. I overcame that.

"God put me here for a reason. It's a better climate. I'm closer to home than I would have been in Columbus, and now I'll get to go home to play Miami and Florida State. And maybe I'll an opportunity to showcase my talents here quicker



Can N.C. State end run of the 'Luckeyes'?

By Keith Parsons
Of The Associated Press

RALEIGH, N.C. | Ohio State is 15-5 in games decided by a touchdown or less under coach Jim Tressel, an uncanny run of success that defies explanation.

Or not.

''What can I say? It's luck,'' North Carolina State rover Andre Maddox said.

Maddox later tried to clarify his opinion, likely hoping to avoid becoming bulletin board material before the Wolfpack host the Buckeyes on Saturday. He pointed to Ohio State's immense talent, particularly on defense, and the fact that many of those games came at home.

Still, his original reasoning might not be far off.

The ninth-ranked Buckeyes (2-0) have yet to force a turnover this season, and they needed a 55-yard field goal on the last play last week to beat Marshall.

''We're lucky, I guess, because typically, if you're at a minus-seven in turnover margin, you're going to be 0-2,'' Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said. ''I've not been around too many teams that can lose the turnover margin and be a champion.''

The circumstances around the winning kick by Mike Nugent also gave support to Maddox's theory.

After Justin Zwick completed a 5-yard pass to tight end Ryan Hamby, the clock continued running. The Buckeyes, out of timeouts, hustled to line of scrimmage and Zwick downed the ball with two seconds left.

Ohio State was called for illegal motion on the play, but officials only marked off 4 yards instead of 5.

Then, the ball was placed on the left hash ? admittedly Nugent's preferred spot ? even though Zwick grounded his pass pretty much in the middle of the field. The kick hooked just inside the left upright.

No wonder some people have taken to calling Ohio State the ''Luckeyes,'' a moniker the players obviously don't embrace.

''It's the kind of character we have on the team,'' defensive end Simon Fraser insisted. ''Even though the game might not be going the way want it to ? we're not blowing out a team or we may be down ? we're going to keep on fighting until the game's over.''

That is a mentality that former Ohio State coach Woody Hayes would appreciate. He made the Buckeyes perennial Big Ten contenders on a similar ''3 yards and a cloud of dust'' philosophy, preferring to win the field position battle until his opponent made a mistake.

N.C. State coach Chuck Amato and the Wolfpack (1-0) saw evidence of this strategy firsthand last season, when Ohio State won 44-38 in triple overtime. N.C. State rallied from a 24-7 deficit early in the fourth quarter to tie it, and the game ended when Wolfpack tailback T.A. McLendon was stopped inches short of the end zone on fourth down.

N.C. State gets a chance to make up for it Saturday.

''I'll tell you the truth, it drove me during the offseason,'' wide receiver Tramain Hall said. ''When I worked out, that's what I thought about, those overtimes and how much we pushed and the fact that we lost by one yard.

''We've got an opportunity again to go out and beat those guys.''
 

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Scouting Report: Ohio State Buckeyes
By Staff Report

After dismantling the Richmond Spiders in the season opener, it gets a little tougher for NC State as they now face the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Santonio Holmes

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Program: Ohio State Buckeyes
Enrollment: 41,248
2004 Record: 2-0
Head Coach: Jim Tressell 34-7 (169-64-2 overall)

Ohio State Offense

12 Justin Zwick, QB ? Third-year sophomore finally gets a chance after Craig Krenzel?s departure, but has also shared some reps with classmate Troy Smith. Zwick has great command and will make good to great throws at times. But he already has 4 INTs on the young season, most of them as ill-advised passes a young guy might attempt. Still, he?s coming off a monster 318-yard, three-touchdown game against Marshall.

10 Troy Smith, QB ? Incredible athlete. Uses speed to avoid would-be tacklers and stays alive to make plays. Has a cannon for an arm. Only saw 3 snaps against Marshall after playing 4 series against Cincinnati.

8 Roy Hall, SE ? Another young guy, also a third-year sophomore. Has great 6-3, 228-pound frame and all the athletic ability in the world. Coaches hope his 20-yard TD grab against Marshall is the play that gets him going.

77 Rob Sims, LT ? Anchors the offensive line and guards the quarterback?s blind side. Has done a fine job with that. Beginning his second full year as a starter.

50 Doug Datish, LG ? First-year starter, but he was a big-time prep recruit three years ago. Has answered the bell.

55 Nick Mangold, C ? Took over as the starter midway through last year and has done a fine job as the leader of the line. Heady player.

52 Mike Kne, RG ? Former walk-on and transfer from Fordham, where he started as a freshman. Fifth-year senior in his first full year as a starter. Probably one of their best run blockers.

68 Tim Schafer, RT ? Won a battle for this open position in camp and has done well in the first two games.

80 Ryan Hamby, TE ? Big target (caught 4 balls in opener, including a TD). Has worked hard on his blocking. Zwick will find him if the receivers are covered and he can make plays with the ball.

4 Santonio Holmes, FL ? Proving to be one of the top receivers in college football this year. Coming off a 10-catch, 218-yard, two-TD performance against Marshall. It would have been better, but he missed the third quarter due to cramps. Will run the post and/or the fade once a quarter, so be ready. Hard to get a good hit on him in the open field and will deliver big yards after the catch.

30 Lydell Ross, TB ? Kind of a plodder. Works hard, runs hard, good physical specimen. Will have a ton of 3 and 4-yard runs, then finds an opening once in a while for that home run play. Had 141 yards against Cincinnati. Tons of experience backing up oft-injured Maurice Clarett in 2002 and as the starter last year. Has over 2,000 career yards. Co-captain.

43 Brandon Schnittker, FB ? Dependable blocker, but he never touches the ball.

38 Branden Joe, FB ? Did not play either of the first two games due to an ankle sprain. But they want to get this versatile back involved and take heat off Ross with the running game.

85 Mike Nugent, K ? An All-American in the national championship season of 2002, when he was 24 of 27 on field goals. Coming off a game-winning 55-yard field goal on the final play of the game against Marshall. So well respected his teammates voted him as a captain.

Offensive Overview ? OSU wants to establish the run. The Buckeyes were able to do that against Cincinnati in a three-touchdown win, but struggled in that regard against Marshall. The offense has seven turnovers in two games, so they are mistake prone. Zwick is still learning, but he seems capable of a wide array of throws. Holmes is just special. Ross wants to be a workhorse, but Joe could be the last piece of the puzzle to get this unit in gear.

Ohio State Defense

75 Simon Fraser, DE ? Plays his assignment well. Won?t make a bunch of sacks, but he puts consistent pressure on the passer. Strong physically and mentally. Co-captain.

94 Marcus Green, DT ? Becoming a play maker. Had a big sack in the win over Marshall. Played behind Darrion Scott last year. First-year starter.

90 Quinn Pitcock, DT ? Another first-year starter as a third-year sophomore. Played behind Tim Anderson last year. Strong as an ox at the point of attack and will quietly make big plays in the trenches.

57 Mike Kudla, DE ? Similar to Fraser. Perhaps the strongest player on the team. First-year starter.

99 Jay Richardson, DE ? Top reserve at end. Had team?s first sack of the year in Game 2 against Marshall.

47 A.J. Hawk, OLB ? All-Big Ten as a first-year starter last year as a sophomore. Preseason Big Ten defensive player of the year candidate. Has picked up where he left off last year in first 2 games. One of the unquestioned leaders of the defense. Just makes a ton of tackles. Will be where the ball is all day. Helped Will Allen make the final stop on T.A. McLendon a foot outside the goal line on the final play of last year?s game.

5 Mike D?Andrea, MLB ? First-year starter as a junior. Has worked through some injuries and is becoming a force. Versatile player who can stuff the run, handle some pass coverage duties and go after the quarterback.

51 Anthony Schlegel, MLB ? Splits some reps with D?Andrea and also plays alongside him when they move to a 3-4 look. Great run support player. Transfer from Air Force, where he was team MVP and captain as a sophomore in 2002.

42 Bobby Carpenter, OLB ? First-year starter as a junior and has gone right to work. Team-high 22 tackles in two games. Makes plays all over the field.

2 E.J. Underwood, CB ? Plays the field-side corner. One of the team?s best athletes. Played sparingly last two years and this is his first full year as a starter.

26 Ashton Youboty, CB ? Will step in for the injured Dustin Fox (broken arm vs. Marshall) at the boundary corner. Also a great athlete and will make big plays happen (in a good way).

21 Nate Salley, FS ? Back for his second year as a starter as a junior. A heavy hitter at 6-3, 215 pounds. He?ll be around the ball all day, too.

6 Tyler Everett, SS ? Emerged as the starter in fall camp, replacing Allen. Good overall player and will make plays on the ball whenever he can.

86 Kyle Turano, P ? First-year starter at punter in his fifth year. Former walk-on. Hit one 57-yard punt against Cincinnati and averaged 43.7 yards last week against Marshall.

Defensive Tendencies ? Mark Snyder replaced Mark Dantonio as the coordinator, but kept all of the key strategies with the base 4-3. Have not blitzed as much as they were expected to. A very young but extremely talented defense. Marshall succeeded in running the ball when Cincinnati was unable to. Young players may lack patience against a good, controlled passing attack.
 

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Ajoy,
Great info
Grad to see you are on Hawaii..
Glad to see you like Kansas also.

Thanks for the info
 

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wolfpacker97 said:
Wish I was getting +3 on the Pack today. Now that they are a favorite, I might just stay away and pull like hell for them on the tube.

GO PACK!
I'm starting to get worried bout it, but that is normal for gameday against a huge opponent :scared

this will be huge if we can pull this "upset"

the line has moved up to -2.5 :scared

gl on your plays buddy and of course:

GO PACK![/QUOTE]
 

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Hey anil good luck today you bunch of red fags hope you get waxed!

What do you think about the heels, the play that's screaming at me is gtech -8.5ish...i think that line should be 13 or more. But you know how it goes...it looks too easy it makes me hesitate.

Also pinnacle doesn't have a total out but i saw at the greek that it's at 54...i think by gametime rain will be gone, really i think it has a good chance to go under because we will run and i think will respond to our pathetic display from last week...BUT i cannot take an under until this team shows it can stop someone. Think tihs total is low at 54 it's very very tempting. Any thoughts???
 
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