a big outlaw tip

[UGA12]

Attention whore is an insulting term used in reference to a person who is trying to draw attention to themselves or who finds attention from others gratifying. The insult turns on the idea that the person to whom it is directed is comparable in their actions to a prostitute: a prostitute gives himself or herself sexually to anyone willing to pay, and in the same way an attention whore makes a fool of himself or herself for anyone willing to pay attention.

By the way Nice night ray :clap:

 

[ferdville]

First of all, since you didn't research these plays yourself, how can you guarantee their accuracy? Is your "friend" infallible? Exactly how many people does he check and why? Does this guy have absolutely nothing else to do? Why not challenge him and have him track Fletcher's record? I mean if he has the time to keep track of everybody here with the utmost of accuracy, why can't he track Fletcher? Too many categories?

You can obviously do what you want, but for the life of me I don't understand what you feel is gained by posting a fraction of Raymond's record. Are you doing this to help people that may be duped into thinking that Outlaw plays are a lock? What in the world was your motivation? What purpose did it serve?

 

[Scott4USC]

First of all, since you didn't research these plays yourself, how can you guarantee their accuracy? Is your "friend" infallible? Exactly how many people does he check and why? Does this guy have absolutely nothing else to do? Why not challenge him and have him track Fletcher's record? I mean if he has the time to keep track of everybody here with the utmost of accuracy, why can't he track Fletcher? Too many categories?

There have been 3 weeks of picks in the CFB season. If I wanted to check your record right now, it prob. take me 10-15min. with most of the time spending checking scores. He had 30 something plays so far. Not that many. I don't know how long it took for him to look it up and I don't even care. I don't speak for everyone else but it is not difficult to track someone. MJ has search engine and you can search posts only by certain posters. Very easy to use. Check it out.

He told me he didn't track Fletcher because he uses too many different weighted plays. Then there is tips etc. Halftime plays. But maybe this thread gives him the motivation to do it! If he tracks Fletcher, I'll post it. Why not?

You can obviously do what you want, but for the life of me I don't understand what you feel is gained by posting a fraction of Raymond's record. Are you doing this to help people that may be duped into thinking that Outlaw plays are a lock? What in the world was your motivation? What purpose did it serve?

A fraction of Raymonds record would be me posting last weeks results or 2 weeks of results. I FAWKING POSTED THE WHOLE CFB SEASON RECORD! Get it? I didn't leave anything out. I did nothing wrong. If you don't like reading the TRUTH, too bad.

You can think for yourself. I posted facts about Raymond. Make up your own opinion about him and his plays. It took me 20 sec. to post copy and post his record. Took me 5min. to look up his 3 OUTLAW plays prior to tonight for the whole year. Why not harp on the posters who lied about Raymonds posted outlaw plays? Don't harp on me who posted the truth!

Here is an example. Lets say I found this site month ago. I have $300 in my account. I have won $200 since Aug. but lost $300 last weekend. So now I have $200 in account but I was up $500! I want that money back! Kid decides to chase! So I am looking to double up to catch up and I see Raymond having this machine gun OUTLAW play whatever. So many posters like him he must be good. I see posters saying he has won 6/8 outlaw plays etc. I am going to bet $300 (200 back +100 profit) on Rays Outlaw plays. They must be good since they won 6/8. If I win, I will have $600 in my account! YESSSSS!

GUESS WHAT! The fact is Raymond was 1-2 on OUTLAW plays coming into tonight. If that record was posted, do you think this person would bet $300 of "his" money on it?

Now I 100% agree that you are responsible for your own actions. But please do not fault me for posting FACTS about a poster to help others! This is an example of where it "might" help someone.

Again, I don't understand why so many posters here are afraid to be held accountable for their actions?

GO ANGELS!!!!! (just took lead)

 

[Bubba]

Dont know why you guys be hating on Ray for posting he's been posting for years and is a great resource here on MJS. Don't like his picks dont bet them. Ray has made me a lot of money but not in one night or one "outlaw" pick.
Why do you guys think Rays and Fletchers posts get so many hits? Because they suck? You guys need to pick your own spot and build up your own rep. You guys come and go and Ray is here trying to help season after season.

 

[Scott4USC]

Dont know why you guys be hating on Ray for posting he's been posting for years and is a great resource here on MJS. Don't like his picks dont bet them. Ray has made me a lot of money but not in one night or one "outlaw" pick.
Why do you guys think Rays and Fletchers posts get so many hits? Because they suck? You guys need to pick your own spot and build up your own rep. You guys come and go and Ray is here trying to help season after season.

Just an FYI to you. Have you seen a documented record of Raymond? Serious. I don't care if you win or whatever. A DOCUMENTED RECORD! You see people rah rah him but you never see any proof. No accountability. Look at how many posters were pissed when I made Raymond accountable for his POSTED CFB picks and his POSTED outlaw plays this year. Why? Why would posters be upset with someone posting the truth about someone?

I will tell you I have seen a documented record of Raymond when he used to be a service and he was down 100's of units. Long time ago when he was tracked and documented!

I am not saying Raymond is good or bad capper. I am just posting the facts! You can make up your own opinion! That is the way it should be. Everyone should think for themselves. But just because you tell me you won with him, doesn't give him accountability. Just because he has 20,000 posts doesn't give him accountability. It might make him popular and that is cool. But he has no accountability. That is a FACT! Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope you continue to win with Raymonds picks and I hope Raymond wins too. I have nothing against him. You don't see me making ANY personal attacks to him. No bashing from me.

 

[SingleMalt]

Now I 100% agree that you are responsible for your own actions.

So point out that Ray's Outlaw picks are not LOCKS. Point out that the NEWBIE is "responsible for your own actions"...

But why Bash...

Scott, you have some nice writeups on why you pick as you do...but do you think that we all need you to look out for us as we might be newbies???

If someone that picks at a 90 percent clip, posts here for half his plays and hits at 55 percen for the posted plays...I would still want him to post...not be pissed off by someone calling him out every secord...

I am not saying that Raymond hits at a 90 percent clip...just an exagerated example...

In the words of the ex-Beattle...Live and Let Die...

 

[Scott4USC]

SingleMalt

Thanks for the compliment but I never bashed Raymond. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

 

[MoneyIsInTheAir]

Wuz good Raymond let me see some big play on Saturday that u like big Parlay???????????

 

[SingleMalt]

Knickerbocker PLEASE...

What do you call your posts in this thread...Constructive critisism????

Coime on...

"Hey, I don't think you are telling the truth?"
"Did you call me a liar?"
"No, I never called you a liar"

 

[LUCKY 7]

Damn this man made a whole bunch of gamblers fat in the pocket tonight, including me, and some people were coming down on him.

Ray please don't listen to them........win or lose your plays are valued (especially the OUTLAWS) thanks again for the $$$$$$$

 

[MoneyIsInTheAir]

Raymond what 2 big play u like for saturday that would cover
what team that u like ?

 

[Bubba]

Scott,
You're a really bright guy. Really. I put real money on USC yesterday based on your post. Youre posts are very well written and informative. Raymonds posts look like they were scrawed on the back of a napkin. You know what? I DONT CARE.
Why on Earth would I care about "documenting" Raymond when his picks are free? I've been reading Ray's posts for FIVE YEARS. I have a brain and I can tell when Ray's onto something and when he's not. Ray pours concrete all day then posts here for free. Why do you have such a hard-on for him?
Make your own space Scott, get your own readership, you're not going to do it by bashing Ray. I'm sure you can do this. If you keep bashing Ray it will hurt you and you will just look like a jerk.

HEY RAY I DEMAND A FULL REFUND OF EVERY DIME I'VE PAID YOU.

 

[Chill]

:grouphug:

I dont think anyone did anything wrong.

Raymond posted his plays and he hit. Thats great
we all want to make money. Those who followed
him made money. Yay!!

Scott just pointed out Raymond's documented record for "These Outlaw Plays" . There is nothing
wrong with that. I'm new to this site and I dont know who I should go along with or who not to follow. i find it helpful to know someone's record.


We are all after information. Angles Trends stats etc. Thats what we got on both accounts.
:grouphug:

 

[Woodson]

SingleMalt

Thanks for the compliment but I never bashed Raymond. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

If you can't see this as disrespectful then you have issues man. The guy hits for 12K and you start in on his record?

Who the **** are you to come into a thread and change the discussion to one of an investigation?

And you can LIE and say a friend gave you that record when you KNOW that you searched it yourself through key word seach in advanced options.

You're jealous. Yuo work hard and give writeups and on and on and you just don't understand why people wouldn't follow you so you tried to piss on the parade.

What a prick.

 

[Scott4USC]

Thanks for nice words Bubba. Chill got it right with his post.

If you can't see this as disrespectful then you have issues man. The guy hits for 12K and you start in on his record?

He never posted that 12k parlay. But don't worry. I will post in my thread with 3min. left in the Utah/AF game which side I had 10k on. Happy! Raymond does it, everyone should! Nolan Dalla was called out for doing it. Shouldn't Raymond? Instead we should give Raymond a free pass!

Who the **** are you to come into a thread and change the discussion to one of an investigation?

I posted his record. NOTHING ELSE. Go read the thread again. Everyone else made the commentaries.

And you can LIE and say a friend gave you that record when you KNOW that you searched it yourself through key word seach in advanced options.

If I searched it or my friend did, what difference does it make?

You're jealous. Yuo work hard and give writeups and on and on and you just don't understand why people wouldn't follow you so you tried to piss on the parade.

You are right, I work hard to "try" and pick winners and the result is hopefully me winning $$$. The result is not me winning a following. I appreciate those who come into my threads and thank me or congratulate me. But my goal is to win $$$ and so far I have accomplished it. Everyone who opens my threads benefits from it. But I have won $$$ from many people on the site so I like to give back. Raymond is one of those posters who won for me. (1 play but it was huge) FYI, I do the handicapping regardless if I post or not. The only difference is me putting it on the message board and into easy to read format for everyone to enjoy. Not a big problem for me. I think and type very fast. I also think for my own and hold people accountable.

What a prick

Thanks! How intelligent of you to call me a prick!

 

[moe777]

fk all the haters,thats what you are bigtease or should we call him big hater,what a loser..wheres your write up ray,oh you post your parlay now,,wheres your record,what fkn haters.dont like the poster or the thread dont look at it. big hater nobody gives a fuk who and why you pick anybody,,,ray great hit :clap: :clap:

 

[moe777]

I was posting FACTS about Raymond. Never once mentioned whether he was great handicapper or not. That is for you to decide. But if that facts hurt your feelings, too bad. Grow up.

BTW, if Phillies didn't win in extra innings, Raymond would have been 2-4 on outlaw plays for the year! I am happy he will now be 4-2 on Outlaw plays but I felt people should know the truth. Ray was 1-2 on Outlaw plays prior to tonight. We had people posting he won 6 of his last 8 outlaw plays.

I guess you prefer LIARS over posters who post FACTS! Nothing wrong with posting the truth.

Congrats Ray on a great night! Congrats on going 2-0 with your "very big bets" in the early CFB season! Good job! Looks like you won a ton of people $$$.

wtf are you talking about ,the guy has been posting outlaw plays for years..just b/c you searched his outlaw plays in the search engine doesnt mean they all showed up . :mj07: theirs been about 10 outlaw plays this month.

 

[seoulbrotha]

what's with all this drama, can't we just get along???
by way, hella of a job ray, went with boise also, but i would have betted more if i read ur post. but its all good.

btw, could i borrow some $$$? :mj07: :mj07:

 

[Scooter]

SHut The F***k Up

SHut The F***k Up

Ray
I also have looked at your post for insight and don't want these few people to discourage you from posting these tips.These are no different than anyone who post 20 units on a game or GOY plays it's games people can play or not and believe me when I say several have more than their share of loses like anyone else.No one can predict if a key player is hurt on the first play or a key pitcher throws out his arm or back :scared So I again will thank you and everyone else for all the info that is shared here and as for those who don't Shut The F***k Up and don't look at his post :cursin: I did parlay these picks and won BIG and have a 3 team parlay with them and Louisville on sat :mj14: My husband past away at the first of the year don't have the time to do a lot of research so Thanks :spotting:

 

[SC Capper]

Raymond-

Please keep posting. Let those who question it, play the other side. The way I see it, they would be losing if they did!

Thanks for all of your help. You are on of the few cappers I listen to on a consistent basis!

Thanks!