A DAMN GOOD REASON WE INVADED IRAQ

[CHARLESMANSON]

Funny nobody mentions this......

You libbers out there ever heard of the No-Fly zones? For those of you born under a rock, after your buddy Saddam exterminated a few hundred thousand Iraqi Kurds with Nerve Gas, UN resolutions and a treaty were put in place to protect Iraqis in both the north and south latitudes. The US and Great Brittian, who patrolled the no-fly zone airspace 24/7 with fighter jets, were agressively fired on by Saddams military ON A DAILY BASIS....read it again...on a DAILY BASIS. Firing anti-aircraft at the US military??? Big mistake.

That itself is a violation of UN mandates and an act of war. I dare anyone in here to disagree with that statement.

So what do we have here? Saddam in overwhelming violation of UN mandates?? That monster tried to kill our brave boys everyday. And for years what did the U.N. do about it???
NOTHING

It sucks we didn't take care of Saddam earlier than we did. We had EVERY DAMN RIGHT to use military force in Iraq no matter what any of you crybaby liberals say.

I'm more than happy to debate anyone on this...bring it on.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Looks like we have heard from another compassionate conservative and right winger who wants to take a conservative, hands off approach to foreign affairs as W said 4 years ago. Welcome to the fray. Based upon your post, I eagerly anticipate your next gem.

Eddie

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Are you saying my post is incorrect? Maybe you should tell me why Eddie.

 

[kosar]

Yes, your post is incorrect. Starting with 'a few hundred thousand' Kurds being killed, to 'daily anti-aircraft' flack.

 

[kosar]

BTW- cute signature.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

About a half million mass graves have been uncovered in Iraq so far....but....Oh yeah you're right, I guess I'm making this stuff up. I guess the holocost never happened either did it? lol ...priceless

 

[kosar]

You're not making it up, but you're greatly exaggerating. That's par for the course though.

Just like when you said that Kerry has voted against specific weapons systems. Wrong. Just like when you mentioned that Kerry has voted against all defense budgets. Wrong. I believe that he's voted FOR 16 of 19 defense appropriation bills.

It's not your fault though. There are tons of people that think along your lines with no regards for facts. I saw something the other day where something like 60% of Americans believe or believed that Saddam played a part in 9/11. What a sales job by this admin.

 

[kosar]

About a half million mass graves have been uncovered in Iraq so far....but....Oh yeah you're right, I guess I'm making this stuff up. I guess the holocost never happened either did it? lol ...priceless

About 15 thousand Kurds were killed, not 'hundreds of thousands'. Could you provide some reference about these half million mass graves? Thanks.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

How am I exagerating that number of mass graves? And yes our jets were being fired on, on a daily basis.

It's not your fault though. There are tons of people that think along your lines with no regards for facts.

 

[kosar]

You're exaggerating the number of Kurds killed by quite a lot and just so you know our planes were not being shot at daily. About every 2 months, they would throw up a couple hundred stray, wild shots, our planes would lock onto the battery and destroy them. Those are the facts.

Again, i'd be interested in something credible that verifies your contention of a half million mass graves. Thanks.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Kosar-
How many mass graves do YOU think have been uncovered in Iraq? Oh only 14,000 dead??? I think that happened in ONE DAY ALONE. I guess you also think we should have left Saddam alone all togethr huh. He gassed entire towns. You know what Nerse Gas does??

These nerve gases have a profound effect. The neurotoxin causes the brain to send signals to the muscles to contract violently. In fact, so violently, the contactions of the muscles of the back are so severe, it causes the spine to break in half.

Also the new US WMD findings came out yesterday, and even though none were found, US officials uncovered evidence that Saddam had plans to start his WMD programs BACK UP!

FROM THE A.P......recent US WMD inspection findings-----
In a 1,500-page report, the head of the Iraq Survey Group, Charles Duelfer, will find Saddam was importing banned materials, working on unmanned aerial vehicles in violation of U.N. agreements and maintaining a dual-use industrial sector that could produce weapons.

Duelfer also says Iraq had a research and development program for chemical and biological weapons.


Well that's the end of the WMD debate.

Library time is over...good luck on your plays guys.

 

[Kdogg21]

so basically if any country is having their own civil war the US should but in....and according to Bush though when this war started we would find WMD. so now we don't find any, but there is 'possible' information that he was working on them. so basically bush lied to the public than.mmmmm

 

[kosar]

Kosar-
How many mass graves do YOU think have been uncovered in Iraq?

I don't know, man. I remember hearing about several hundred that we found during our advance to Baghdad. While I may have missed a few reports, I doubt I missed many. Whatever the case, a half million is way out there.

Oh only 14,000 dead??? I think that happened in ONE DAY ALONE.

Wrong. Look it up when you get back to the library.

I guess you also think we should have left Saddam alone all togethr huh. He gassed entire towns. You know what Nerse Gas does??

He was contained. So for the time being, he should have been about 15th on our list.

These nerve gases have a profound effect. The neurotoxin causes the brain to send signals to the muscles to contract violently. In fact, so violently, the contactions of the muscles of the back are so severe, it causes the spine to break in half.

Yes, thank you. I realize that death by nerve gas is not the way to go. It was a horrible thing he did. Just as bad as when we supplied him with chemical weapons to use on Iran. Ya figure that the gas he used on the Kurds was the same product that we made sure he had enough of?

Also the new US WMD findings came out yesterday, and even though none were found, US officials uncovered evidence that Saddam had plans to start his WMD programs BACK UP!

Ya think? Every country in the world either has chemical weapons or is trying. The report said that he was going to wait until the world wasn't watching him so closely and then we was gonna try to restart his program. What does that tell you? It tells me that with the world watching him closely for 12 years since Desert Storm, he hasn't been able to make a move. The containment was clearly working. Just like almost every nation in the world, and plenty of people in our own country, tried to tell us.

Library time is over...good luck on your plays guys.

Good luck to you also.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

You want mass graves?? Ok here ya go.....

http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/pdf/iraq_mass_graves.pdf

Sorry I guess there have only been about 400,000 so far.....I guess you're right, it wasn't very many.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

K Dogg it isn't possible information...it is what it is.

 

[kosar]

so basically if any country is having their own civil war the US should but in....

The continent of Africa is not a part of that doctrine.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Did ya read that report on the mass graves Kosar? Now you wanna say I was exagerrating?

If I'm wrong about the 400,000 mass graves maybe you can prove it to me, just like I did for you.

 

[kosar]

Did ya read that report on the mass graves Kosar? Now you wanna say I was exagerrating?

If I'm wrong about the 400,000 mass graves maybe you can prove it to me, just like I did for you.

I guess something got lost in the translation. Your article said that they had found 260 mass graves. I obviously wasnt' saying that only a couple hundred people had been killed by Saddam, I was saying that it was a couple hundred sites. Shit, I just said that he killed 15 thousand Kurds. Let alone thousands of others that he perceived as threats.

That said, your 400,000 people found in said graves that you quote as fact comes from Tony Blair right around the time that he was fighting for his political life. Most estimates that i've seen have estimated around 250,000 people killed by Saddam during his reign, mass graves or otherwise.

As grossly as you have exaggerated other things, I actually thought you meant 500,000 mass grave sites.

It's really just splitting hairs though. Obviously he was a bad man, nobody is disputing that. That was clear when we were supporting him and it was clear in march of last year.

Now you tell me when you started giving a shit about these mass graves.

 

[Kdogg21]

K Dogg it isn't possible information...it is what it is.

so basically now a guy by the name of Osama is out there who attacked our country and killed thousands of people is still at large. we go and get out a dictaor that hasn't laid a hand on our country and was 'possibly' making WMD. possibly, i mean its on paper.

And the Pentagon also admits the insurgency in Iraq is growing in both size and sophistication, and as a result, the number of U.S. war dead -- now over 1,025 -- is climbing at a faster rate than any time since major combat ended

the way i look at it, Bush all he wanted to do was invade iraq and get saddam out. he could care less about Osama right now. now he has a big mess in his hands and all he can say is 'well we are fighting terrorism'. Bush has done a decent job in protecting our country a bit, but he still hasn't gotten the main guy.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

We lost troops in WW2 also....are you saying we should have left Hitler alone too?

I agree with you KDogg on the Osama thing. I'm glad we are still hunting him. Hmmmm...I wonder if Kerry could find Osama???

And about Iraq how come John Kerry said "knowing what we know now, I would have taken the same path"?

And how can you say Saddam hasn't laid a hand on our country? Our boys were taking hostile anti-aircraft fire in the no-fly zones up until last year when we invaded. Some character in here was saying that occurred about every 2 months but he's flat out wrong. I'd love to see where he's getting those facts.