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Outright selections
Allenby - don't usually like betting on defending champs but he is in good current form and 66-1 at Betinternet hard to resist
Browne - sticking with him at the moment as I believe he has a high finish in him soon 100-1 Sports.com
Kelly - played well last week and usually holds his form well 140-1 Centrebet
Lickliter - good course form and now he has his first win under his belt could go on to better things 66-1 Sports.com

72 hole match ups
Howell over Franco -111 Simon Bold
Maruyama over Berganio -111 Simon Bold
 

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3 matchups for me this week

Leonard -105 tb Janzen (GCS)

Waite -105 tb Gow (camelot)

Gay -107 tb Tway (camelot)

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Here is my plays for the Western Open:

Outright
Woods 2-1 @ Camelot (not brave but 2-1 is enough for me)

Outright w/out Woods
Hoch 26-1 @ NSW Tab
Lickliter 40-1 @ Sportodds

Matchups
Browne +100 vs Mayfair @ Camelot
Cochran -115 vs Toledo @ Camelot
Leonard -110 vs Janzen @ Camelot
Lickliter -115 vs Verplank @ Camelot

Good luck to everyone.

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72 hole matches
C Perry -108 over Browne @ Pinnacle
@Camelot
Estes +105 over Durant
Parry -122 over Ames
Geiberger -110 over Sposa
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Mayfair -105 over Faxon
McCarron +100 over Triplett
Appleby -110 over Flesch
 

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adding secondary matches @ Camelot

Tryba +117 over Schwarzrock
Will take veteran making 4 straight cuts here over neophite@ those odds
C Paulson -110 over Porter
Paulson only appearson here 9th Porter last 3 here all cuts.
Howell -110 over Jobe
Giving the kid a chance over one who really dogged it here last year.
 

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Preview & outright plays:

A week without a major on any Tour, though this will be the last piece of competitive action of most of the leading players before the British Open in two weeks time. A high quality field assembles at Cog Hill yet again - it will not be the same again on the PGA Tour this month. This is the 2nd oldest event on the PGA Tour, dating back to 1899, with the oldest, the US Open, not technically run by the Tour. It therefore has a great heritage and is one of the most sought-after titles this year. The list of winners reads likes of 'who's who' of twentieth century golf.

The Dubsdread course at Cog Hill has hosted this event since 1991. Much has been written that driving length and greens in regulation are essential to playing well here, but the course compatibility stats dispute this. This is a short, tight, tree-lined course measuring just over 7,000 yards. The four par-fives are not very long and three of them are reachable for virtually the whole field. Accuracy and a good putting touch on the large, undulating greens will decide the winner.

Players with local connections are Jeff Sluman, who has played this event every year for over twenty years and did record three top-10 finishes in the 1990s, and Steve Stricker, who hails from neighboring Wisconsin and attended Illinois University; he also won this event in 1996 by eight shots. Both can be expected to perform better than of late.

The outright selections this week are Vijay Singh, Scott Hoch and Nick Price. Vijay may have missed the cut last year, but he had finish in the top-10 in four of his previous five visits so maybe can discount last year's rogue finish. He has been a model of consistency this year which 12 top-10 finishes in his last 15 events and a worst of 18th in that run (The Masters). He sits on top of the Tour putting stats and if the par-fives are to be important, he ranks 3rd behind Duval and Woods in that category as well. Overdue a win on the PGA Tour.

Scott Hoch has very similar stats to Vijay. He ranks 3rd in putting and 7th in par-five birdies - impressive for a short hitter (he ranks 10th in driving accuracy). In a great run of form - no worse than 16th in his last 8 events - and with just as good course form - top-15 in five of the last seven years - he looks good to secure another place win.

Maybe more can be expected of Nick Price, who lost in a playoff to Robert Allenby last year and failed to join at elite group of players with at least 3 Western Open titles in their career. Apart from 70th in 1996, his worst finish since the event came to Cog Hill has been 22nd. His holds the low scoring record for this event - 263 in 1993 - and is joint holder of the course record (63), which he shot in the first round last year. He has secured top-10 finishes in two of his last four events and he should secure another one this week.

Outright plays:

Vijay Singh to win 16/1 e.w. @?Eurobet [5 places option]
Scott Hoch to win 28/1 e.w. @ Bet247 or Sports.com
Nick Price to win 50/1 e.w. @ Eurobet [5 places option]
 

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Like several of DOGS matchups, particularly Paulson, Parry and Appleby. I'm on the opposite side of McCarron though. Tripp coming off two 7ths seems a little more likely to show against Scott's 3 week layoff. Both have poor records at Cog Hill, but Scott's are more recent bad memories and Tripp has finished in T35 twice here at least(I know its a stretch but Scott hasn't even mustered a T60 in 3 tries). Not impressed by Robo's record here either and if Durant is healthy I'd go that way since he won here in 98. Also like all of Cartman's selection.

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72-hole plays:

Kenny Perry to beat Billy Andrade -110 @ BlueSq
After two top-3 finishes in the last two weeks, opposing Andrade may be a little dangerous, but Kenny Perry is in no less form, having finished in the top-10 in three of his last four events and over a longer time span. Perry gets the nod because of their respective course form: he finished 15th last year, whereas Andrade has missed the cut for the past two years

Kenny Perry to beat Jerry Kelly -118 @ BetInternet
Perry is also picked in the matchup against Kelly as he has worse form than Andrade both at the moment and on this course. Kelly finished 7th last week and that ended a run of very poor form since the MasterCard Colonial, but conditions will be very different this week. This will be no birdie-fest, so the usefulness of last week's figures is somewhat lower than usual. Kelly also comes to a course on which he has missed the cut in three of the last four years, so a repeat of last week's form is very unlikely

Billy Mayfair to beat Chris Smith -105 @ BetInternet
Both with poor course form in recent years, but Mayfair is a past champion here (1995) and comes into the event playing some decent, if unspectacular, golf. Smith has been struggling with his game of late - just one finish inside the top-40 in his last seven events - and should be opposed this week

Chris Perry to beat Chris Smith -111 @ Simon Bold [2 units]
Chris Perry appears to have overcome injury and a lack of confidence if the top-20 finishes in his last two events, including the US Open, are to be believed. With a better record on this course and a top-10 just two years, Perry is a strong selection against Smith
 

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My first excursion with the big guns here.
Mike Weir -140 over Allenby and @ 44-1 e.w.
No matter what happens this is one of the best threads at MJ's and may all our wagers be winning ones.
 

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Proline Nice to see addition of yourself and Turtle to the gang this week.Both your opinions are well respected.Thanks
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From looks of this thread so far its going to be interesting Ryder Cup
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1st round results 1-0
Tway defeats Gay by 6

72hole status
C Paulson/Porter 5up
McCarron/Triplett 4 up
Tryba/Swarzrock 4 up
Estes/Durant 2 up
Parry/Ames 1 up
Appleby/Flesch tied
Geiberger/Sposa 2up
C Perry/Brown 3 down
Mayfair/Faxon 4down
Howell/Jobe still playing with Howell trailing by 3
 

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1st round update: 2-1-0 and +0.00 units

Lost the two-unit play to negate the profits on the other two
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Herron lost by three to Kelly, while there were convincing four- and eight-shot wins for Verplank and Leonard respectively. The 72-hole plays stand 1-3-0 after 18 holes, but they are very tight. The standings: Perry/Andrade 5 up; Perry/Kelly 1 down; Mayfair/Smith 1 down; Perry/Smith 3 down. Price has some distance to make up in the outrights, but at least Hoch and Singh have made sure that they are in contention, albeit four shots behind the leader, Mark Wiebe.

2nd round plays:

Robert Allenby to beat Brad Faxon +100 @ VIP Sports [2 units]
Brian Gay to beat Bob Tway -113 @ Five Dimes
Lee Janzen to beat Justin Leonard +108 @ Five Dimes [3 units]
Kirk Triplett to beat Scott McCarron -103 @ Five Dimes
Tiger Woods to beat Phil Mickelson -175 @ Five Dimes
 

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Can someone tell me how VJ ranks 1st in putting ave?
Tigers 1st round average plays continues.He stands 11-10 in matches in common 1st round vs Mick and Singh collectively with Mick beating him 4 of last 6 but continues to go off at big #'s in 1st round.No I haven't had the nads to buck him but it sure would have been lucrative.I like the announcers blaming fishing trip however it apparently didn't hamper Cook any and he wason same trip.Did notice a little "casting from the top" on each however.
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How long is this Howell kid
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yesterday stats
STATS Rnd 1 TOT RANK*
EAGLES 0 3
BIRDIES 3 3 60
PARS 12 2 14 56
BOGEYS 3 3 50
DOUBLE BOGEYS 0 39

DRIVING ACCURACY 71.4% 0.0% 66.7% 15
DRIVING DISTANCE 550.5 550.5 1
PUTTS PER ROUND 30 0 27.0 31
PUTTS PER GIR 1.750 1.750 118
GREENS IN REG 66.7% 0.0% 63.2% 30
SAND SAVES 60.0% 0.0% 50.0% 28


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Stanley or anyone, thoughts on Nobilo over Leonard this afternoon? They go off soon.

Well, put 1/2 of my Lickliter over Toms profits into Nobilo over Leonard at +125.

Uh oh, Leonard -2 through 3 already!

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Thx, guys.

Rode 2 matchup plays. Already 2-0, w/ Browne and janzen missing the cut.

Nice work.
 
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