AFL 2002 Team Previews
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Very well summarised Cartman88...
Agree with most of it except for your final placings. I think the ladder will finish something like this:
Brisbane
Port Adelaide
Richmond
Essendon
Hawthorn
Sydney
Kangaroos
Carlton
Adelaide
St.Kilda
Collingwood
Fremantle
Melbourne
Geelong
West Coast
Western Bulldogs
I think that you are expecting too much from the likes of Collingwood (good coach but average playing list), Fremantle (learn to walk before you can run !!)and even Carlton. I think that you are selling short Richmond's efforts last season (playing list has been made stronger), Sydney's strong home ground advantage and St. Kilda's return of long term injuries.
We do at least agree on the bottom 3 teams
Time will tell eh?
I hope the weather is good up on the coast as I am coming up there for a week with the tribe. Leaving tomorrow to do the theme park trail
Pre-emptive strike on next weekends round>>>
Get on board Port regardless of who they are playing and where
Get on Sydney to beat Kangaroos as they "own" us of late!!!
Catch ya when I return
Agree with most of it except for your final placings. I think the ladder will finish something like this:
Brisbane
Port Adelaide
Richmond
Essendon
Hawthorn
Sydney
Kangaroos
Carlton
Adelaide
St.Kilda
Collingwood
Fremantle
Melbourne
Geelong
West Coast
Western Bulldogs
I think that you are expecting too much from the likes of Collingwood (good coach but average playing list), Fremantle (learn to walk before you can run !!)and even Carlton. I think that you are selling short Richmond's efforts last season (playing list has been made stronger), Sydney's strong home ground advantage and St. Kilda's return of long term injuries.
We do at least agree on the bottom 3 teams
Time will tell eh?
I hope the weather is good up on the coast as I am coming up there for a week with the tribe. Leaving tomorrow to do the theme park trail
Pre-emptive strike on next weekends round>>>
Get on board Port regardless of who they are playing and where
Get on Sydney to beat Kangaroos as they "own" us of late!!!
Catch ya when I return
PAWAQATSI,
You have chosen a really good time to visit the Gold Coast. The weather has been warm (but not unbearable) in recent weeks.
Make sure you escape from the family and pay Jupiters Casino a visit !!!!!!
You have chosen a really good time to visit the Gold Coast. The weather has been warm (but not unbearable) in recent weeks.
Make sure you escape from the family and pay Jupiters Casino a visit !!!!!!
Another interesting market for the AFL season is the "first coach to be replaced in 2002 (Rd 1 to Rd 22)". Centrebet offer the following odds:
No Coach Replaced $2.50
Grant Thomas (St K) $6.00
Mark Thompson (Gee) $6.00
Gary Ayres (Adel) $7.00
Neale Daniher (Melb) $11.00
John Worsfold (WCE) $13.00
Chris Connelly (Frem) $15.00
Rodney Eades (Syd) $17.00
Wayne Britian (Carl) $21.00
Dennis Pagan (Kang) $26.00
Mick Malthouse (Coll) $34.00
Terry Wallace (WB) $34.00
Peter Schwab (Haw) $41.00
Mark Williams (Power) $41.00
Danny Frawley (Rich) $51.00
Kevin Sheedy (Ess) $67.00
Leigh Matthews (Bris) $126.00
Once again I wouldn't be investing any money on this myself but here are my thoughts:
Grant Thomas (St K) has minimal top level coaching experience and was only supposed to be caretaker coach until the end of last season. If he can't produce the results I would not be surprised to see him step down from the position for the sake of the club.
Mark Thompson (Gee) and Neale Daniher (Melb) are expected to be replaced at the end of 2002 although if their sides are performing poorly they may be replaced mid season to allow any potential replacement the opportunity to work with the team for the later part of the season.
Hopefully we won't see a repeat of the Malcolm Blight fiasco.
No Coach Replaced $2.50
Grant Thomas (St K) $6.00
Mark Thompson (Gee) $6.00
Gary Ayres (Adel) $7.00
Neale Daniher (Melb) $11.00
John Worsfold (WCE) $13.00
Chris Connelly (Frem) $15.00
Rodney Eades (Syd) $17.00
Wayne Britian (Carl) $21.00
Dennis Pagan (Kang) $26.00
Mick Malthouse (Coll) $34.00
Terry Wallace (WB) $34.00
Peter Schwab (Haw) $41.00
Mark Williams (Power) $41.00
Danny Frawley (Rich) $51.00
Kevin Sheedy (Ess) $67.00
Leigh Matthews (Bris) $126.00
Once again I wouldn't be investing any money on this myself but here are my thoughts:
Grant Thomas (St K) has minimal top level coaching experience and was only supposed to be caretaker coach until the end of last season. If he can't produce the results I would not be surprised to see him step down from the position for the sake of the club.
Mark Thompson (Gee) and Neale Daniher (Melb) are expected to be replaced at the end of 2002 although if their sides are performing poorly they may be replaced mid season to allow any potential replacement the opportunity to work with the team for the later part of the season.
Hopefully we won't see a repeat of the Malcolm Blight fiasco.
Nice part of OZ up there on the Gold Coast Cartman88, I must admit. Very tempting to re-locate !!!
Anyways ...have you had a crack at any of the pre-season games and have you had a re-think on any of your team summaries after seeing the results so far???
Anyways ...have you had a crack at any of the pre-season games and have you had a re-think on any of your team summaries after seeing the results so far???
PAWAQATSI,
Sounds like you had a good time on the Gold Coast. It is definately a wonderful lifestyle up here and there are many from Melbourne (and New Zealand) who have made a permanent move. I am not sure when you arrived home but today is bloody hot. I got out of the air conditioning at work and it was like a bloody heat wave.
Getting back to the footy ......
The AFL pre season has been good news so far.
My outright bets for the Wizards Home Loans Cup which I posted in a previous thread were Port Adelaide (backed them at $7.50 and are now paying $2.60) and Hawthorn (backed them at $8.00 and are now paying $5.00). They are both looking solid and will probably meet in the semi final. If this happens I should have a fairly short priced favourite in the final and may look to hedge depending on a few factors.
The bookies have been very cautious with the betting on individual matches and generally offer weak odds. The only bet I had was Hawthorn @ $2.15 vs Kangaroos. I had posted that I thought this was a 50/50 matchup and when Hawthorn drifted out late in the betting I couldn't resist the juicy price. Hawthorn won that game quite comfortably.
In the 4 years I have been following AFL I have found that the pre season form can basically be disregarded. At this stage I haven't seen anything to greatly change my original thoughts on how the team will perform in 2002.
Sounds like you had a good time on the Gold Coast. It is definately a wonderful lifestyle up here and there are many from Melbourne (and New Zealand) who have made a permanent move. I am not sure when you arrived home but today is bloody hot. I got out of the air conditioning at work and it was like a bloody heat wave.
Getting back to the footy ......
The AFL pre season has been good news so far.
My outright bets for the Wizards Home Loans Cup which I posted in a previous thread were Port Adelaide (backed them at $7.50 and are now paying $2.60) and Hawthorn (backed them at $8.00 and are now paying $5.00). They are both looking solid and will probably meet in the semi final. If this happens I should have a fairly short priced favourite in the final and may look to hedge depending on a few factors.
The bookies have been very cautious with the betting on individual matches and generally offer weak odds. The only bet I had was Hawthorn @ $2.15 vs Kangaroos. I had posted that I thought this was a 50/50 matchup and when Hawthorn drifted out late in the betting I couldn't resist the juicy price. Hawthorn won that game quite comfortably.
In the 4 years I have been following AFL I have found that the pre season form can basically be disregarded. At this stage I haven't seen anything to greatly change my original thoughts on how the team will perform in 2002.
An interesting situation with Chris Grant at the moment ......
The Western Bulldogs have been effectively rendered powerless in insurance negotiations concerning its star player and captain Chris Grant.
Club president David Smorgon today vented his frustration at the scenario, saying the settlement of Grant?s public liability insurance rested in the hands of the game?s administration.
?How did it get to this? Again, I think that?s an issue that the AFL needs to answer,? a clearly perturbed Smorgon said.
?It is out of our control as a club. We have to do what we can with the AFL, and I?m aware that there are discussions going on with the insurance people involved as we speak. And we?re hopeful that it will lead to a resolution.?
?If they don?t bloody well fix it we will. But again, having said that, I?m not sure exactly what we could do?.we will bring whatever pressure to bare, we will work up front and behind the scenes to make sure that we do the right thing by our player,? he said.
Despite his fitness and sustained status as a registered AFL player, Grant did not participate in the Bulldogs? opening Wizard Home Loans Cup match against Fremantle last Friday.
Bulldogs coach Terry Wallace was advised by the club?s board last Wednesday that it was in the best interests of ?everyone? that Grant miss Friday?s match. While Grant had only been participating in skill-based training over the past week, Wallace has made no plans should the key figure in the club?s line-up be deemed unavailable.
?I?ve not been given any indication that that is the case. All my planning has been [around] having Chris Grant very much involved?, he said before a light Bulldogs training session this morning.
?Really from my point of view, from a coaching aspect, the timing is an inconvenience. We want to get on with our organisation and making sure everyone?s ready for the season proper. We?ve go to just make sure ? which I?ve just been speaking to our players about ? that our focus doesn?t get off what we?re capable of handling.?
While player insurance is handled collectively by the AFL, Grant?s individual insurance has been hindered by a congenital medical condition.
Grant today denied however, that his medical state was different to any other season. He said it was not until the Bulldogs were notified of the insurance problem, that he had become anxious about his playing future.
?The condition that I?ve had, I?ve known about for a long, long time, so it means that up until Wednesday I was fit to play and committed myself to the Bulldogs for another four years?the only concern is the length of time it?s going to take to get the issue sorted out?.I am fit, but I can?t get insurance.?
?The problem I won?t discuss as far as the actual condition that I?ve got, other than it is congenital. So it is something that I?ve had from birth. I?m sure that if we can sort this out in the next few days that?I won?t have a problem talking about it?It is an insurance problem. And the problem that we currently have is that unless the AFL will find insurance for me to play, then basically I can?t play,? he said.
The AFL Players? Association said it would not be commenting on Grant?s case because it was a personal, confidential issue. However, AFLPA chief executive Rob Kerr did stress the importance of insurance cover.
?It is essential that all players are covered by the AFL?s insurance policy and we are examining, as a matter of urgency, reasons why a player would be excluded from cover.?
Grant was troubled by a neck injury two seasons ago, which while temporarily jeopardising his fitness, is by all reports now completely in hand.
?From my point of view it?s something that he played with all of last season and in the lead up to this season. And he?s played a couple of practice matches. So from that point of view we weren?t overly concerned about where we were heading?, Wallace said.
The club is hopeful the matter can be resolved before Saturday, enabling Grant?s to play in the Doggies? round two preseason match against Essendon.
?It?s not something that?s new to me. It?s not something that has popped up medically or anything like that over the last few days that?s prevented me to play at the moment. It is something that we?ve known about for a long time,? Grant said.
?My advice is that I continue to play. I?ve been insured until now. I?m currently aware that I?m still a registered player. And the AFL has told me that I?m still a registered player. My only problem in playing is that I currently don?t have insurance from the AFL and that?s what we?re trying to rectify.?
The Western Bulldogs have been effectively rendered powerless in insurance negotiations concerning its star player and captain Chris Grant.
Club president David Smorgon today vented his frustration at the scenario, saying the settlement of Grant?s public liability insurance rested in the hands of the game?s administration.
?How did it get to this? Again, I think that?s an issue that the AFL needs to answer,? a clearly perturbed Smorgon said.
?It is out of our control as a club. We have to do what we can with the AFL, and I?m aware that there are discussions going on with the insurance people involved as we speak. And we?re hopeful that it will lead to a resolution.?
?If they don?t bloody well fix it we will. But again, having said that, I?m not sure exactly what we could do?.we will bring whatever pressure to bare, we will work up front and behind the scenes to make sure that we do the right thing by our player,? he said.
Despite his fitness and sustained status as a registered AFL player, Grant did not participate in the Bulldogs? opening Wizard Home Loans Cup match against Fremantle last Friday.
Bulldogs coach Terry Wallace was advised by the club?s board last Wednesday that it was in the best interests of ?everyone? that Grant miss Friday?s match. While Grant had only been participating in skill-based training over the past week, Wallace has made no plans should the key figure in the club?s line-up be deemed unavailable.
?I?ve not been given any indication that that is the case. All my planning has been [around] having Chris Grant very much involved?, he said before a light Bulldogs training session this morning.
?Really from my point of view, from a coaching aspect, the timing is an inconvenience. We want to get on with our organisation and making sure everyone?s ready for the season proper. We?ve go to just make sure ? which I?ve just been speaking to our players about ? that our focus doesn?t get off what we?re capable of handling.?
While player insurance is handled collectively by the AFL, Grant?s individual insurance has been hindered by a congenital medical condition.
Grant today denied however, that his medical state was different to any other season. He said it was not until the Bulldogs were notified of the insurance problem, that he had become anxious about his playing future.
?The condition that I?ve had, I?ve known about for a long, long time, so it means that up until Wednesday I was fit to play and committed myself to the Bulldogs for another four years?the only concern is the length of time it?s going to take to get the issue sorted out?.I am fit, but I can?t get insurance.?
?The problem I won?t discuss as far as the actual condition that I?ve got, other than it is congenital. So it is something that I?ve had from birth. I?m sure that if we can sort this out in the next few days that?I won?t have a problem talking about it?It is an insurance problem. And the problem that we currently have is that unless the AFL will find insurance for me to play, then basically I can?t play,? he said.
The AFL Players? Association said it would not be commenting on Grant?s case because it was a personal, confidential issue. However, AFLPA chief executive Rob Kerr did stress the importance of insurance cover.
?It is essential that all players are covered by the AFL?s insurance policy and we are examining, as a matter of urgency, reasons why a player would be excluded from cover.?
Grant was troubled by a neck injury two seasons ago, which while temporarily jeopardising his fitness, is by all reports now completely in hand.
?From my point of view it?s something that he played with all of last season and in the lead up to this season. And he?s played a couple of practice matches. So from that point of view we weren?t overly concerned about where we were heading?, Wallace said.
The club is hopeful the matter can be resolved before Saturday, enabling Grant?s to play in the Doggies? round two preseason match against Essendon.
?It?s not something that?s new to me. It?s not something that has popped up medically or anything like that over the last few days that?s prevented me to play at the moment. It is something that we?ve known about for a long time,? Grant said.
?My advice is that I continue to play. I?ve been insured until now. I?m currently aware that I?m still a registered player. And the AFL has told me that I?m still a registered player. My only problem in playing is that I currently don?t have insurance from the AFL and that?s what we?re trying to rectify.?
