AFL Round 10

Cartman88

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Hi Guys,

Here goes for Round 10 of the AFL.

Fri 7.40pm AEST Colonial Stadium
Wstn Bulldogs $1.75 (-6.5) vs Kangaroos $2.10 (+6.5)

Playing Wstn Bulldogs $1.75

Interesting game to start the round here. Wstn Bulldogs have won their past 3 matches impressively although not against the strongest opposition. They are a confident team at present and are not really affected by injuries. Kangaroos are a hard team to assess at the moment. Their form has been ok with wins over Collingwood and St Kilda before losing to Carlton to last week. The ?new game plan? came unstuck under pressure against Carlton and coach Dennis Pagan has admitted it may take them a few weeks to get his side playing the way he wanted them to. Wayne Carey returns to the team and reportedly is feeling better than he has for ages. I am backing Wstn Bulldogs to win this one but will take the conservative $1.75 head to head price.

Sat 2.10pm AEST Optus Oval
Carlton $1.10 (-44.5) vs West Coast (+44.5)

No play

It almost goes without saying that Carlton will win this and win it easily. They have won their past 3 matches and their better players are starting to hit their straps. Carlton generally perform very well at Optus Oval. West Coast are suffering from injuries and are simply playing poor footy at the moment. However the only team I am prepared to back giving up 44 points is Essendon, so no play for me.

Sat 2.10pm AEST MCG
Hawthorn $1.90 (pk) vs Port Adelaide (pk)

No play.

2nd vs 3rd here and should be a great game. Hawthorn have looked good all year but like many of the good sides they were shown up by Essendon this week. Losing to Essendon is no disgrace but it will have hurt them mentally and they have lost Crawford and Chick with injuries. Port Adelaide have also looked good all year and with the exception of Primus (who may return this week) they are travelling well in terms of injuries. Port Adelaide traditionally don?t play well at the MCG having won 2 from 11. I can?t see much in this game and have respect for both sides. It seems the bookies have the price about right so no play on this one.

Sat 7.00pm AEST Colonial Stadium
St Kilda $3.25 (+22.5) vs Melbourne $1.33 (-22.5)

No Play

St Kilda are now 2-7 for the season and whilst they are playing ok in patches, they are struggling to win games. Their injuries are really hurting them and the club are saying they have made a mistake by training their players as ?athletes? rather than ?footballers?.
The second half collapse against Collingwood was the worst thing that can happen to a team trying to get confidence back. Melbourne have lost 3 in a row now and continue to be affected by the off-field boardroom dramas. They also appear to be missing that ?x-factor? probably due to Farmer still being out. This game is certainly an opportunity for Melbourne to get their season back on track and they really should win this match. However I can?t back them with any confidence to cover the spread here.

Sat 7.40pm AEST Gabba
Brisbane $3.65 (+25.5) vs Essendon $1.28 (-25.5)

No Play

I?ll keep this one short. I don?t bet against Brisbane at home and I don?t bet against Essendon at all so no play on this one. I guess it is another opportunity for Essendon to push aside another contender.

Sun 2.10pm AEST Footy Park
Adelaide $1.40 (-20.5) vs Geelong $2.90 (+20.5)

Playing Adelaide ?20.5

Adelaide have shown plenty in recent weeks winning 5 of their past 6 matches. The 2nd half against Richmond and Brisbane showed they can put sides away and also tough it out. Their midfield is going as well as any team in the comp and this is where they will win it this weekend. Geelong will be encouraged by their wins in the past 2 weeks but these were against weaker opposition. Geelong have a poor record at Footy Park winning only 2 from 9 matches there. I am backing Adelaide to win this game easily.

Sun 2.10pm AEST Colonial Stadium
Collingwood $1.28 (-26.5) vs Sydney $3.50 (+26.5)

Playing Collingwood ?26.5

In the past 2 weeks Collingwood have had to come from behind to win and this given them plenty of self belief. They are travelling along very nicely in 5th position with some easier games ahead. They are no longer a one man band with Buckley having good support with the likes of Tarrant and Molloy. Collingwood are capable of kicking a big score and this is the main edge they have over Sydney who are struggling to kick goals at present. Sydney broke a 5 game losing streak last week against Fremantle but were far from convincing. If this game goes to form then Collingwood will blow Sydney away here and I think are worth a bet at the spread.

Sun 4.10pm AEST
Fremantle $2.00 (no line) vs Richmond $1.80 (no line)

No play

The big news this week is the sacking of Fremantle coach Damian Drum and in my opinion the whole matter was handled very badly. AFL clubs have an uncanny knack of winning the game after the coach has been sacked so based on this alone Fremantle are some hope. It is hard to get enthusiastic on either side. Fremantle are 0-9 and whilst they have been competitive in patches a reasonable side would have at least won a couple of these games. Then you have Richmond who are lacking confidence after losing their last 3 matches including a poor showing against Geelong last week. In my opinion they are really missing Richardson. I am close to backing Fremantle but realistically I would want at least $2.15 to part with any cash.

SUMMARY OF PLAYS:

Wstn Bulldogs SU @ $1.75
Adelaide ?20.5 @ $1.90
Collingwood ?26.5 @ $1.90

All these prices are with Centrebet.

Good luck to everyone !!!!
 

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Cartman88, I think we should feel very positive about this weekend since we agree on 3 plays.

Round 10 Plays:

Fri 7.40pm AEST Colonial Stadium
Wstn Bulldogs $1.75 (-6.5) vs Kangaroos $2.10 (+6.5)

Playing Western Bulldogs -6.5

A good game to start the round. The Bulldogs have won the last 3 which is good form but these have only been against Sydney, West Coast and Melbourne. North on the other hand have really struggled. The most disturbing trend for North Melbourne has been there second half fadeouts in the two previous Friday Night matches. Carlton last weekend outscored them 9 goals to 1 in the 2nd half while against Richmond they were outscored by 7 goals to 1 in the last quarter. A play on Western Bulldogs is recommended.

Sat 2.10pm AEST Optus Oval
Carlton $1.10 (-44.5) vs West Coast (+44.5)

Play Carlton -44.5

Carlton will win but will it be enough to cover the spread. My initial action was yes they will cover it. The more I thought about it the more worried I became as it was a 45-point spread. I did some more research and in there last 5 games West Coast have lost by an average of 63 points and only one loss would have fallen below this line. Carlton at home on a fine day should have no problem in accounting for West Coast and this line, therefore I recommend a play on Carlton.

Sat 2.10pm AEST MCG
Hawthorn $1.90 (pk) vs Port Adelaide (pk)

No play.

An interesting game as two top sides meet at the MCG. Hawthorn are coming off there first defeat and Port coming off a win over Melbourne after losing to Collingwood the week before. The injuries to Crawford and Chic will not help Hawthorn cause. Port also have to travel to Melbourne where they do not have a great record. The two away wins they have had this year were against Geelong and West Coast. The possible return of Primus seems quite ridiculous as when the injury reports came in he was supposed to be out for 3-6 weeks not return after one week as he is trying to do. This game is going to be close and therefore I recommend no bet.

Sat 7.00pm AEST Colonial Stadium
St Kilda $3.25 (+22.5) vs Melbourne $1.33 (-22.5)

No Play

This game is one of the weekends hardest to predict as both teams have played great patches of football at times but other times being extremely poor. St Kilda played great against Hawthorn but poor against North Melbourne while Melbourne played great against Essendon and poor against Western Bulldogs. The erratic form means that this is a game to stay clear of. No Play.

Sat 7.40pm AEST Gabba
Brisbane $3.65 (+25.5) vs Essendon $1.28 (-25.5)

No Play

Essendon are clearly the best team in the comp but travelling to Brisbane is always tough. The result of this game depends on what Essendon team shows up. The one against Richmond, Hawthorn that shows why they are the best or the one against Collingwood and Melbourne where getting the 4 points is good enough. Therfore, No Play.

Sun 2.10pm AEST Footy Park
Adelaide $1.40 (-20.5) vs Geelong $2.90 (+20.5)

Playing Adelaide -20.5

Adelaide have had nearly a full squad to pick from the last few weeks and this has seen them win 5 out of the last 6 with great away wins against Richmond and Brisbane. Geelong have won there last 2 but now they travel to Adelaide where they have only beaten Adelaide once. At home Adelaide will win and the margin will be greater than 21 points.

Sun 2.10pm AEST Colonial Stadium
Collingwood $1.28 (-26.5) vs Sydney $3.50 (+26.5)

Playing Collingwood -26.5

Collingwood have shown in the last two weeks they are a reals finals contender with wins over Port and St Kilda. Collingwood now have a period in their schedule where they play some of the weaker teams and have a chance to nearly set up the rest of the season. Sydney have dropped progressively down the ladder since winning the first 2 games and even though they won last week it was described by some as the worst game ever with footage shown of Sydney players running into each other during the course of play. Collingwood are clearly the form team and if they want to show that are the real deal must ccount for Sydney easily. Therefore, A play on Collingwood is recommended.

Sun 4.10pm AEST
Fremantle $2.00 (no line) vs Richmond $1.80 (no line)

No play

I'll keep this one short. When a coach is sacked the teams in the AFL have a habit of winning the next week. While a Freo win is possible nobody would be stupid enough to back a team who is 0-9. Therefore, no play.

SUMMARY OF PLAYS:

Wstn Bulldogs -6.5 @ $1.90
Carlton -44.5 @ 1.90
Adelaide -20.5 @ $1.90
Collingwood -26.5 @ $1.90

Craig
 

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Beast2,

Seems we are thinking the same way on these games so fingers crossed our picks do the job for us this week.

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Season to date: line bets 15-13
: pick4 1-0 +4.05

3 plays this weekend
Bulldogs-6.5
I think this is the value selection of the round Bulldogs look to strong in the midfield and would not be surprised if harrison tags king,he has the size and mobility to shut king down.I feel that king is just as important to the roos as carey.
The roos would be a little deflated after last weeks 2nd half fade,could not afford to do this against a very fir bullies outfit.

Adeliade -20.5
The form midfield of the competition to many for the cats to shutdown,loosing Kilpatrick in a already shacky midfield hurts.

Melbourne -22.5
St.kilda can't by a trick with injuries Melbourne's midfield to strong expect to pull away after half time.

Pick4
Bulldogs
Adeliade
Carlton
Melbourne
For a return of $3.62 at centrebet

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Talk about a consensus
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Scary thing is - I'm not going to change things
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Had 2 plays line up before I got on here and discovered that everyone else is riding the same horses until their knees buckle
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But everyone here is a sound 'capper, so let's just think we've got the right sides.

Two plays:
Bulldogs -5.5
Adelaide -20.5

Guys, we're either gonna sweep the board or get pasted
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GLTA
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watching carlton last week would not be too keen on giving up 2 goals, let alone 7-8
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different situation though, but still lots and lots for a team not kicking 20 a lot?

The Bombers, on the other hand, could massacre again?

Collingwood as 4 goal favorite? Has not happened a lot - need to see what we can work out on the psychology of the Swans I think.
 

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Sorry fellas a bit of an error (pointed out by my brother-in-law)
Pick 4 results should read 1-0 +3.05 units not +4.05.All pick 4's are for 1 unit.

Anders the Bulldogs & Adeliade line double looks way to tempting (must be a catch)...........only time will tell
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speaking of spread betting Anders, you would be up a few points if you had bought the Blues
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Dogs - fundamentally bad last night, got that Jekyll Hyde thing going - and being dropped has at least made McKernan a competent forward again it seems.
 

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Not completely up to date, but again it seems like backing the woofers as favorites can be ugly?
 

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On Adelaide - not sure we can count the Richmond form as being that impressive

Tigers were very good until Essendon game

since then

166-68-115
173-74-90
152-58-100

absolutely terrible

can't get a kick to save their lives

they had defensively put the clamps on people as well up until then, but since then

190-68-113
191-78-79
201-110-85

not good, apart from allowing 120 points a game...

so adelaide some results recently

but Brisbane, they just beat, had these numbers

167-80-125, also very crappy

hard to have confidence in giving up points with them yet?

fundamentals still very ordinary recently

204-77-110 was v Freo who they held defensively, but only outscored by 20?
191-78-79
187-73-85

not dying due to leather poisoning by any stretch

Geelong had similar fundamentals v Brisbane, but not on scoreboard got Richmond in a Fitzroyesque game and put up nice numbers themselves, best since they had their turn at the West Coast Eagles

seems both teams in the West applying the Toreador defence, waving their capes at people and hope they fall over or get tired

and Geelong's last three games offensively

183-64-129 hammering at Fortress Optus
221-134-83
201-110-85

even Carlton game bit better in the defensive fundamentals, but last 2 were two best, even if dodgy teams

also with a power rating of 14, bloody hard to work this one out I think

also

Date Home Score Away Score League
08-07-2000 2:10:00 PM Geelong 109 Adelaide 102 Australian Football League
25-03-2000 Adelaide 100 Geelong 111 Australian Football League
06-02-2000 Adelaide 124 Geelong 102 Australian Football League
04-07-1999 2:50:00 PM Adelaide 159 Geelong 96 Australian Football League
15-08-1998 Geelong 44 Adelaide 118 Australian Football League
26-04-1998 Adelaide 87 Geelong 61 Australian Football League


3-3 at that line recently and have not looked to see if you can get more on the Cats

hard to take adelaide from this I think

Another problem is that both are low scoring teams currently, definitely below average

so if get a standard Adelaide performance and they get 13 goals, got to hold the Cats to 9 to cover barely

Adelaide is also last in goalkicking accuracy - not that any goalkicking accuracy is 'true' as they do not count complete misses ever, which is slack, but only guide we currently have, and they are the only sub 50 team

Adelaide is also second worst in the league at stopping opponents converting, hence suggesting a few flaws there, percentagewise
(Geelong is in the bottom few as well) so perhaps those balance out a little

plus a little bit of sandbagging from Mark Thompson, who I think is a better coach than Ayres
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http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/2001/06/02/FFXD94N9GNC.html
 

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and at least Brisbane did something for the good of football everywhere, beat Essendon with James Hird playing
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Well, was always going to go one way or the other and in a rd of upsets, most of us got their a$$ served up to them on a platter
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Weekend: 0-2 (0%)
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Season to date: 17-15 (53.13%)

Year to date:
AFL: 17-15 (53.13%)
NRL: 31-23 (57.41%)
SUPER 12 (completed): 27-13 (67.50%)

Overall: 75-51 (59.52%)
 

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Just come from the Geelong-Adelaide debacle. What an absolute shocker of a game. Adelaide had much more of the ball but had no marking presence in there forward line because of Geelong's flooding tactics. Adelaide's disposal was also shocking failing to hit targets on some many occasions. Geelong were always going to struggle to score when all their players were in Adelaide's forward line. At half time on a perfect day both sides had combined for only 6 goals. In the end I was happy that my team won but really disappointed that Adelaide couldn't cover the spread. Adelaide did get out to a 19 point lead in the last.

I can only hope the Bulldogs don't adopt the same tactics next week against Adelaide or that game will also be a shocking game to watch.

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As Anders had said we were either going to clean up or get pasted. We got pasted with the Bulldogs and Collingwood getting well beaten and Adelaide failing to cover. Group record a poor 2-10 (17%). I wonder what we will do if we all agree next week.

Round 15 Results:
Gloveski 1-2 Pick 4 let down by Bulldogs
Beast2 1-3
Anders 0-2
Cartman88 0-3

Craig
 

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sorry to be contrarian lads, but I guess sometimes it works, would certainly have agreed strongly with Carlton if had looked at those stats earlier, slack of me, so well done the Carlton pickers there

was talking to Cartman on MSN too before and it seems the 'desperate' situation for the Swans worked as well as well as the Pies in the unaccustomed fairly reasonable favorite range - Buckley being hurt did not help Collingwood of course
 

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yeah, beast, Adelaide still got that forward line efficiency problem - been a favorite twice, have won and not covered both times
 
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