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Always thought ounce of prevention was worth pound of cure
--until I see the medical professionals and dentists wearing get rid of their gloves-masks-goggles and other protective gear--I'm going to be somewhat hesitant about physical contact myself--but thats just me.
 

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Always thought ounce of prevention was worth pound of cure
--until I see the medical professionals and dentists wearing get rid of their gloves-masks-goggles and other protective gear--I'm going to be somewhat hesitant about physical contact myself--but thats just me.

When I shake my HIV+ patient's hand, I do so without a glove on. I'm sure most physicians do as well. I'd like to give them the dignity they deserve as a fellow human being. Health care professionals only use protective gear in environments that pose a risk of infection...hand shaking is not that. To use that comparison is pretty sad.

Now, if you're going to be fumbling around with your hands in their ass or mouth, well, that's a different story.
 
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Dude,
First of all you aren't a bad person, but it was not a very nice thing to do. Obviously, education is what we as a society lack the most of on this subject, just look at the high number of posts of those saying it was the right thing to do. That being said, I would ask you this, do you know how the man contracted this horribly debilitating disease? By your comments one would have to assume that you had thought about this very thing prior to his hand being offered and as you stated you had already made your mind up not to shake it. So rephrase the question, do you think the man would have felt bad if you told him that due to the fact that he had HIV you would not do him the honor of shaking his hand? I do. Would you be offended if vice versa? Is he a human being, with feelings and dreams and desires, that are all but completely dashed now? Do you think he needs reaffirmation that he is publicly an outcast every time he sticks his hand out? Is this how you would want your Brother, Son, Father, Sister, or self treated if it indeed was the case? Yes I believe you should shake any man's hand that is willing enough to stick it out there with no preconceived notions about you, nor any idea if you are indeed diseased. I mean its not like you are sucking the puss out of a cold sore for goodness sake.
I wouldn't let it tear me up inside but if this person is a friend of yours, I wouldn't do it twice. Also, the paper cut thing wasn't really the reason as you had to think about that before the hand came out. No way someone instantly puts that together without some forethought. Anyway, don't let it bother you, that solves nothing. Simply learn from it and go on.

Hope this helps, (Registered Trademark of FatDaddyCool)
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When I shake my HIV+ patient's hand, I do so without a glove on. I'm sure most physicians do as well. I'd like to give them the dignity they deserve as a fellow human being. Health care professionals only use protective gear in environments that pose a risk of infection...hand shaking is not that. To use that comparison is pretty sad.

Now, if you're going to be fumbling around with your hands in their ass or mouth, well, that's a different story.

Would you do so if you knew you had a small cut on your hand from earlier in the day?

I mean the guy wasnt bleeding or anything, but hey I am not sure if sweat can transmit the virus.

Isnt it better that I didnt & take no chance or say oh well I got the HIV, but at least I didnt reject a handshake.

FDC, He is not a friend of mine, He has had the virus for at least 10 years though & I know he got it from homosexual actions.
 

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I don't blame you for being hesitant that's normal human nature.

As others have said, you've probably been in contact with a few HIV+ people over the years that you didn't know about.
 

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I don't blame you for being hesitant that's normal human nature.

As others have said, you've probably been in contact with a few HIV+ people over the years that you didn't know about.

I am sure that I have, if I didnt have a cut I probably would have shaken his hand.

Can you get HIV from sweat, if you have a very small cut that may or may not be open? (not actively bleeding)
 

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I am sure that I have, if I didnt have a cut I probably would have shaken his hand.

Can you get HIV from sweat, if you have a very small cut that may or may not be open? (not actively bleeding)


the odds of you contracting the virus like that might as well be impossible it is so small. I didn't know he wasn't a friend of yours and if he got it from homosexual actions then that is unfortunate, not that there is anything wrong with that.
 

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Dude,
First of all you aren't a bad person, but it was not a very nice thing to do. Obviously, education is what we as a society lack the most of on this subject, just look at the high number of posts of those saying it was the right thing to do. That being said, I would ask you this, do you know how the man contracted this horribly debilitating disease? By your comments one would have to assume that you had thought about this very thing prior to his hand being offered and as you stated you had already made your mind up not to shake it. So rephrase the question, do you think the man would have felt bad if you told him that due to the fact that he had HIV you would not do him the honor of shaking his hand? I do. Would you be offended if vice versa? Is he a human being, with feelings and dreams and desires, that are all but completely dashed now? Do you think he needs reaffirmation that he is publicly an outcast every time he sticks his hand out? Is this how you would want your Brother, Son, Father, Sister, or self treated if it indeed was the case? Yes I believe you should shake any man's hand that is willing enough to stick it out there with no preconceived notions about you, nor any idea if you are indeed diseased. I mean its not like you are sucking the puss out of a cold sore for goodness sake.
I wouldn't let it tear me up inside but if this person is a friend of yours, I wouldn't do it twice. Also, the paper cut thing wasn't really the reason as you had to think about that before the hand came out. No way someone instantly puts that together without some forethought. Anyway, don't let it bother you, that solves nothing. Simply learn from it and go on.

I only came back to this thread when I saw FDC posted in it. Being the masochist I am, I was confident that I'd get my usual stomach turning that comes from reading all of his posts. What a disappointment this post was. FDC is sensitive and actually makes a point??? FDC refrains from using the term "starfish"? WTF happened to him?

I don't want to judge anyone for their actions because I might have done the same thing out of ignorance and fear if I wasn't prepared for it. Hopefully, you learn from it and it helps to shape future actions.
 
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Am I the only one to see the irony in this story combined with 3 Seconds' take on Frist? Wasn't it Dr. Frist who made a fool of himself claiming that HIV could be spread through tears?

Aids is scary. He's probably not the only one here would have gotten nervous in that situation. I used to deliver medical supplies to the homes of terminally ill people. I always got an extra sense of paranoia when entering an Aids patient house. You really can't help the initial reaction, despite what your logical brain tells you.

Smurph do you know someone with aids?
 

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I only came back to this thread when I saw FDC posted in it. Being the masochist I am, I was confident that I'd get my usual stomach turning that comes from reading all of his posts. What a disappointment this post was. FDC is sensitive and actually makes a point??? FDC refrains from using the term "starfish"? WTF happened to him?

I don't want to judge anyone for their actions because I might have done the same thing out of ignorance and fear if I wasn't prepared for it. Hopefully, you learn from it and it helps to shape future actions.

nothing happened...............nothing at all, thanks for paying attention.
Cheers
 
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I only came back to this thread when I saw FDC posted in it. Being the masochist I am, I was confident that I'd get my usual stomach turning that comes from reading all of his posts. What a disappointment this post was. FDC is sensitive and actually makes a point??? FDC refrains from using the term "starfish"? WTF happened to him?

I don't want to judge anyone for their actions because I might have done the same thing out of ignorance and fear if I wasn't prepared for it. Hopefully, you learn from it and it helps to shape future actions.


Starfish

Well that didn't last long

Hope this helps,

FDC
 
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