Another Bet The House Fight!!!

weepaul

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After the Oscar debacle I should be more cautious BUT
Khan to beat Barrera at -140.

The fight is in Britain on March 14.
This time I am betting the house on the young guy to beat the old Geezer.
 

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Betting on Khan is like betting on Wlad; if the oponnent can punch and is game, surprises happen.

Khan is definitely NOT a smart fighter, while Marco is.

Barrera counterpunches well; he only needs one shot and it's OVAH.

Spare the house.
 
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You have serious guts, Paulie. I agree with the play, not sure about the house! An insurance policy like Barrera 1-6 might be in order?

I don't think Barrera is shot, I think he's badly faded, but also mentally exhausted after a 16-year career. He looked like a mentally defeated man against Pacquiao, and is looking for a payday.

I see Barrera giving it a go for the first few rounds, once he realizes Khan's speed, he'll give up and let himself be stopped. But for those first few rounds he has a legit chance. How is Khan's defense of body shots? has he taken a solid one and walked through it?
 

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Barrera is much slower here, the handspeed and combinations of Khan is what you're banking on to avoid a 1-shot KO.
 

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-140 !!!!!!!!!!

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Barrera has NOTHING. Khan will beat him with EASE !
If the Prescott fight never happened, this line would be -1000.

I doubt Barrera has the speed or the power (or the will) to pull this off. and in the U.K.? forget about it.
 
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Barrera is not shot. In his penultimate fight he gave Pacquiao a decent fight and nearly KO'd Juan Manuel Marquez although Jay Nady missed it. Watch yourself on this fight. I think it's highly winnable for Barrera. He is as cagey as they come and he never stops trying. Khan is a decent talent but he is chinny and quite green. A Khan win is hardly a foregone conclusion.
 

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Fair enough
But I still think Khan wins

this fight being in England is an ENORMOUS advantage....enough (especially at the price) to bet Khan

The Brits are going to get some Prince Naseem payback
 

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I would be VERY careful with this fight.

Khan is chinny...he has been wobbled by much lesser fighters...I thought Barrera still looked pretty ok against Marquez and Pacman...and I would consider both guys a level or two above Khan.

Interesting fight though!

Apparently they are willing to roll the dice on him (Khan)...
 

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I'm taking Barrera rds 1-12 for 4,00
Whenever either Khan or Gamboa fights a guy with a decent punch I'm putting money against them.
 

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A divergence of opinion on the boards
I love it....good stuff guys....looking forward to this one
some good fights being put together

Kirkland-Julio
Ortiz-Harris
Khan-Barrera
Martinez-Cintron

I smell money !

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The fight is a while away but I will express some of my opinions.

Khan does have a bad chin but I don't think Marco has the punch any more to take advantage.
He had a pretty good punch at Junior Feather but not so much since he moved up in weight.

Khan is much bigger and quicker.
This will be Marco's first fight at Lightweight (I don't count his last fight with the guy with 19 losses).

Marco is only 34 but has been fighting for nearly 20 years already. He has also had a lot of wars. As Oscar proved, sometimes you just grow old overnight.

Marco has already been dummied by a smaller version of Khan.
A lanky, quick, hard hitting guy with a bad chin, Junior Jones.

The fight is in Britain where Khan will get the benefit of any doubt.

When you come out of retirement and the going gets tough, it's much easier to say Fuk it, it's just not worth it. I think by Marco's performance against Pac, he is at that stage now.
I don't think he tried to win, I think he tried to go the distance.

I will alway's be all over Khans opponent when he faces a puncher but Marco is not that guy.

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i would go with Khan at that price and home field advantage

but amir will have one or two shaky moments, i wouldn't be surprised if he gets put on the canvas

barrera fought scared against pac and was in survival mode from the get go

i think barrera knows this is a winnable fight, against a green opponent

barrera's forgotten more about boxing than khan will ever learn

i hope this one's good, if khan is too overconfident, he's in trouble
 

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So depite early doctor reports that Barrera's cut would have him out till May, as of a few hours ago Marco Antonio has been "cleared" to fight March 14th.

Supposedly he got anywhere from 3 to 14 stitches (who knows what the truth is).

A few weeks ago Truscott lost to Simpson when the fight was stopped on cuts. My question is this: If Khan opens the cut on Barrera's left eye, will the same British rules apply? Will Khan be awarded a TKO if Barrera starts to bleed?

This, to me, is a huge reason to consider Khan in this fight. If I were Amir, I would be jabbing at that left eye from rnd 1.
 

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Hi Ghost

I would imagine some sort of sanctioning body belt will be at stake (WBO International or something similar), in which case international rules will apply. This means that if Barrera -- or Khan of course -- gets cut from a clash of heads, the bout will go to the scorecards if four rounds have been completed, otherwise the bout will be a no decision.

In contests in the U.K. where no title is at stake -- or if the bout involves just the British and/or British Commonwealth titles -- then British Boxing Board of Control rules will apply. Under these rules, which now seem antiquated, if a boxer is cut from an accidental clash of heads and is deemed unable to continue, he loses the fight, even if he is a mile ahead on points.

Interestingly, when John Simpson fought Paul Truscott last month, Simpson went into the fight after having been cut quite nastily over the eye about six weeks previously against a Kenyan boxer. There were concerns that Simpson's cut would reopen and this was one reason why I leaned towards Truscott. So, what happens? It was Truscott and not Simpson who got cut in a clash of heads (this was a British Commonwealth title bout) and Simpson was declared the winner -- although to be fair to Simpson I think he would have won anyway.

My initial thoughts are that Khan wins this, but his chin is very shaky. Khan was down and VERY wobbly against Willie Limond, who isn't considered any klnd of a puncher, and he went down from a so-so left hook against an extremely battle-worn Michael Gomez. I think that Kramden is right in that this is a winnable fight for Barrera. I believe that Barrera will be coming out to win. If Barrera starts getting punished, he may be looking for an exit at this stage of his career, but in the early rounds I can see him being dangerous. It is an interesting fight and I would expect two-way betting action.
 
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weepaul

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Barrera's camp accepting this fight on the same date makes me even more inclined to bet the house on Khan.

I think Marco is going to be there for the big payday and is not going to spar or train too hard.

Marco no longer tries to win at all costs as was shown in the Pac fight and he already had trouble with a lanky, hard hitting, fast, chinny Junior Jones.
 

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Did Barrera encounter trouble against another lanky, tall, fast, hard hitting fighter in Morales ??
 

weepaul

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Did Barrera encounter trouble against another lanky, tall, fast, hard hitting fighter in Morales ??
Yes actually, he did.

Khan is also bigger, faster and harder hitting than Morales.
 

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"the bunker"
you really think "this" khan is better than an "in his prime" morales?...

that`s saying a mouthful,my friend...
 
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