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somebody finally gets it's. good job!

ARROW:toast:

That?s the point, a lot of people "get it", just not you. You are an "old timer" (not derogatory) that remembers a time when everyone respected their elders and spoke when spoken to, especially someone with more knowledge. This dipshit (all due respect) bart enters your world and you have driven yourself ape-shit over a dude that wouldn?t apologize to you at this point if a gun was to his head. Instead of accepting that dipshits like bart are part of this new world we live in and continuing to help all those people less knowledgeable than you, you let him in your head where he has staked residency for months now. The fact that bart can actually come off looking like the good guy to anyone should show you how poorly you have handled this. So in closing. Bart = dipshit. Arrow = good dude, good capper, but takes himself way too seriously. Everyone has the right to be wrong (thanks dad). Why let others dictate your attitude and willingness to help other:shrug:
 

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I just hate to see the forum lose another good capper. If the guy wants to toot his horn a bit so what? Stay out of his thread if you don't like it.
 

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Hey guys....I am writing this to everyone just so you can see what I think of this whole ridiculous situation now.

I am not perfect. Never claimed to be. But I also know that I have no problem stating my opinion. We all have em right?

There are plenty of good people on this site. There are plenty of good cappers on this site. And once in a while, you get a good capper who is also a good person. I have never claimed to be a great capper. In fact, it's all in good fun for me and if I make a little money as I go, great. But one thing I do know is that I'm a good person and I'm comfortable in my own skin. I also possess something that's called a sense of humor....something that is lost on some people. Those of you that have met me in person know what I'm about and who I am. So what do you guys think? Is ppabart (the online guy) and Bart (the real life guy) not the same person? I certainly think so. If anyone disagrees, it's absolutely their right to do so.

This whole situation is just comedy now. Anyone who has witnessed the entire thing from start to finish and not just popped in to see certain pieces, knows how crazy this has gotten. This is how I have seen things progress.....

Just like many people on this site, arrow's constant need for affirmation of his awesomeness rubs me the wrong way. The constant self-serving comments got old to me and so yes, I did decide to voice my opinion. But here's where I get lost. Instead of him just blowing me off, putting me on his ignor list, or taking any other path, he decided to make a huge deal out of it....say he was leaving (which he's done before....and never stuck to). I never said I wanted Arrow to leave or stop posting. That was a choice that he made. It's up to him whether or not he wants to post his plays or not....and he's made the decision to not post. Then, to compound matters, he sits behind his computer and waits for me to have a bad day, and comes into the handicapping forum on multiple occasions to make some snide comment about my bad day. Now, was I guilty of doing this first? Yes. But Jack asked to clean that up. So I never did it again. If I had, I would have served a ban of some kind. Nobody is immune to that, nor should they be. So I respected what Jack told me to do, which is what I should have done in the first place.

Although I can't speak for Jack, I have to imagine that he asked Arrow to do the same thing....but he couldn't do it. He felt it necessary to continue to pop into my threads after a losing day (you'd never see him come in after a winning day). I've done my best to limit my responses to him. In fact, I don't really want to write this message because in some small way, I know it'll just keep things going for him. But I wanted to clear the air with some of you guys that I know and respect. In fact, go back and look here:

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460524

I stayed away because I didn't want to promote any more of the nonsense that was going on. I had 1 post in the entire thread, and it was early on when I was talking to loophole. After that, I had nothing to do with it.

Yes, if you go back, you can find places where I lost my cool and got irritated....but I apologized to the one person that I needed to apologize to....Jack. Once he told me that we were all good, that's all that mattered to me. I also promised him that I would remove myself from the situation. I welcome Jack to call me out right here if I didn't do a good enough job of that.

The final thing I will say about this is.....I love this website. It's a part of my life that I wouldnt trade for the world. I've met a lot of great people on here, shared my life on here (both the good and the bad), and made some amazing friends that will always be in my life. This site is not a means to an end for me.
 
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Hey guys....I am writing this to everyone just so you can see what I think of this whole ridiculous situation now.

I am not perfect. Never claimed to be. But I also know that I have no problem stating my opinion. We all have em right?

There are plenty of good people on this site. There are plenty of good cappers on this site. And once in a while, you get a good capper who is also a good person. I have never claimed to be a great capper. In fact, it's all in good fun for me and if I make a little money as I go, great. But one thing I do know is that I'm a good person and I'm comfortable in my own skin. I also possess something that's called a sense of humor....something that is lost on some people. Those of you that have met me in person know what I'm about and who I am. So what do you guys think? Is ppabart (the online guy) and Bart (the real life guy) not the same person? I certainly think so. If anyone disagrees, it's absolutely their right to do so.

This whole situation is just comedy now. Anyone who has witnessed the entire thing from start to finish and not just popped in to see certain pieces, knows how crazy this has gotten. This is how I have seen things progress.....

Just like many people on this site, arrow's constant need for affirmation of his awesomeness rubs me the wrong way. The constant self-serving comments got old to me and so yes, I did decide to voice my opinion. But here's where I get lost. Instead of him just blowing me off, putting me on his ignor list, or taking any other path, he decided to make a huge deal out of it....say he was leaving (which he's done before....and never stuck to). I never said I wanted Arrow to leave or stop posting. That was a choice that he made. It's up to him whether or not he wants to post his plays or not....and he's made the decision to not post. Then, to compound matters, he sits behind his computer and waits for me to have a bad day, and comes into the handicapping forum on multiple occasions to make some snide comment about my bad day. Now, was I guilty of doing this first? Yes. But Jack asked to clean that up. So I never did it again. If I had, I would have served a ban of some kind. Nobody is immune to that, nor should they be. So I respected what Jack told me to do, which is what I should have done in the first place.

Although I can't speak for Jack, I have to imagine that he asked Arrow to do the same thing....but he couldn't do it. He felt it necessary to continue to pop into my threads after a losing day (you'd never see him come in after a winning day). I've done my best to limit my responses to him. In fact, I don't really want to write this message because in some small way, I know it'll just keep things going for him. But I wanted to clear the air with some of you guys that I know and respect. In fact, go back and look here:

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460524

I stayed away because I didn't want to promote any more of the nonsense that was going on. I had 1 post in the entire thread, and it was early on when I was talking to loophole. After that, I had nothing to do with it.

Yes, if you go back, you can find places where I lost my cool and got irritated....but I apologized to the one person that I needed to apologize to....Jack. Once he told me that we were all good, that's all that mattered to me. I also promised him that I would remove myself from the situation. I welcome Jack to call me out right here if I didn't do a good enough job of that.

The final thing I will say about this is.....I love this website. It's a part of my life that I wouldnt trade for the world. I've met a lot of great people on here, shared my life on here (both the good and the bad), and made some amazing friends that will always be in my life. This site is not a means to an end for me.

Dipshit
 

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At this point I am utterly disgusted with the whole thing, not that anyone besides myself gives a damn, however, there are some things that both sides make valid points about. I could care less if Bart and Arrow get along with each other. I have no hard feelings against either. I do know for fact that I personally do not take anything on this forum as being a true reflection of the person typing the message. I understand that I am not happy with YYZ at times however I promise you all would be forgotten if we were ever to meet. I don't know the man from Adam and I am certainly not in a position to pass judgement. I do recall that Arrow asked Bart to stay out of his threads and Bart did not, hence the emptiness of Bart's request to Arrow.

Arrow,
I don't know if you are still posting plays in here or not but I do know that Bleeding Purple is a stand up guy and he says you are a solid capper and that is really all I know about Arrow and as far as that goes, he should be allowed to proceed unencumbered with the dread of being attacked at every turn. That being said, if I were Arrow I wouldn't be feeding into the bullshit which he is most definitely doing. I would excuse myself from the pettiness in the General Forum, which is exactly what I contribute to the General at times. However, you don't see me in the political forum and all that either. Bunch of idiots in there in my opinion, not personally, just what they post makes me feel that way. So I avoid it. There are people on here that don't like me either, but they are cordial to me when i see them and that is fine with me.


Bart,
As an administrator of someone's life work and website, I would be a bit remiss to turn people away from it due to personal reasons. As an administrator, it is incumbent upon you to take the high road not get in the middle of it. I also am very well aware that this was an unsolicited editorial and am not looking to get into the middle of this but it is starting to fester in the General forum and that is where I don't need to see the bullshit. High road big boy, high road. You know I have nothing but respect for you but this shit is old enough, seriously.

Cheers to all and hope all had a great Thanksgiving.

Hope that helped,
FDC

Bart is NOT an admin.

Bart, please get rid of that title, even FDC thinks you're an admin. Please get rid of it. Thanks.
 

UGA12

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So who's Admin now :shrug:

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Jack has me doing it for now. We are working on revamping the entire site.

There will be a chess sub-forum soon as well as a handball fantasy discussion sub-forum.

we will also have user sub-forums:

ARROWTIME

BARTS BUSINESS

and of course

NOBODYCARESABOUTTHERAVENS




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Jack has me doing it for now. We are working on revamping the entire site.

There will be a chess sub-forum soon as well as a handball fantasy discussion sub-forum.

we will also have user sub-forums:

ARROWTIME

BARTS BUSINESS

and of course

NOBODYCARESABOUTTHERAVENS




gl

Consider this the post where I officially pass the keys to you. :0008
 

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NOBODYCARESABOUTTHERAVENS

I do get carried away sometimes, especially with a few beers in me. I'm a HUGE fan :shrug:

I'm feeling good about them today too.

In the 3rd quarter did you see......

:lol:
 

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Hey guys....I am writing this to everyone just so you can see what I think of this whole ridiculous situation now.

I am not perfect. Never claimed to be. But I also know that I have no problem stating my opinion. We all have em right?

There are plenty of good people on this site. There are plenty of good cappers on this site. And once in a while, you get a good capper who is also a good person. I have never claimed to be a great capper. In fact, it's all in good fun for me and if I make a little money as I go, great. But one thing I do know is that I'm a good person and I'm comfortable in my own skin. I also possess something that's called a sense of humor....something that is lost on some people. Those of you that have met me in person know what I'm about and who I am. So what do you guys think? Is ppabart (the online guy) and Bart (the real life guy) not the same person? I certainly think so. If anyone disagrees, it's absolutely their right to do so.

This whole situation is just comedy now. Anyone who has witnessed the entire thing from start to finish and not just popped in to see certain pieces, knows how crazy this has gotten. This is how I have seen things progress.....

Just like many people on this site, arrow's constant need for affirmation of his awesomeness rubs me the wrong way. The constant self-serving comments got old to me and so yes, I did decide to voice my opinion. But here's where I get lost. Instead of him just blowing me off, putting me on his ignor list, or taking any other path, he decided to make a huge deal out of it....say he was leaving (which he's done before....and never stuck to). I never said I wanted Arrow to leave or stop posting. That was a choice that he made. It's up to him whether or not he wants to post his plays or not....and he's made the decision to not post. Then, to compound matters, he sits behind his computer and waits for me to have a bad day, and comes into the handicapping forum on multiple occasions to make some snide comment about my bad day. Now, was I guilty of doing this first? Yes. But Jack asked to clean that up. So I never did it again. If I had, I would have served a ban of some kind. Nobody is immune to that, nor should they be. So I respected what Jack told me to do, which is what I should have done in the first place.

Although I can't speak for Jack, I have to imagine that he asked Arrow to do the same thing....but he couldn't do it. He felt it necessary to continue to pop into my threads after a losing day (you'd never see him come in after a winning day). I've done my best to limit my responses to him. In fact, I don't really want to write this message because in some small way, I know it'll just keep things going for him. But I wanted to clear the air with some of you guys that I know and respect. In fact, go back and look here:

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460524

I stayed away because I didn't want to promote any more of the nonsense that was going on. I had 1 post in the entire thread, and it was early on when I was talking to loophole. After that, I had nothing to do with it.

Yes, if you go back, you can find places where I lost my cool and got irritated....but I apologized to the one person that I needed to apologize to....Jack. Once he told me that we were all good, that's all that mattered to me. I also promised him that I would remove myself from the situation. I welcome Jack to call me out right here if I didn't do a good enough job of that.

The final thing I will say about this is.....I love this website. It's a part of my life that I wouldnt trade for the world. I've met a lot of great people on here, shared my life on here (both the good and the bad), and made some amazing friends that will always be in my life. This site is not a means to an end for me.


Nice try to come off looking like the nice guy. Anybody can go to the dumpster and see what a true asshole you are.

Heres the thing the chest pounding bothered you, you could have just ignored but you and your posse took it to a whole new level of bashing. And then when people tried to stick up for dave you insulted them and and you insulted him. All for things that we can go back into your posts and find you doing the same thing.

There is a day where you went 8-11 and told everyone you had a great day.

I could of posted in the general forum about how big of a liar and cheat, and a chest pounder you were but let it go. im truley surprised that anyone follows you. You are a .500 capper at best .

Jack has made it clear where he stands on the issue, if someone bashes barts thread it gets locked. Bash arrow and put it into the general discussion then to the mini dumpster where you can still take shots at him.

Jack makes money off i guys losing money and re uping at the online books so i dont blame him. In the college basketball thread you can go take a shot at hammer all day long and they wont lock the thread ban anyone or ask anyone to stop these are just the rules around here. its a joke.

Regardless i dont care anymore, i will post my basketball picks when i have time, and stay out of the drama as much as i can, but i will always stick up for a friend when i see him being attacked.

Bart I hope you feel like you a good person in real life because if you read through your posts in the general forum towards arrow you will find out that you are not. If you were just a normal guy reading through the shit you and your friends said you think wow this guy is a real jerk, and that sir is what you are :0074
 
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