somebody finally gets it's. good job!
ARROW:toast:
Hey guys....I am writing this to everyone just so you can see what I think of this whole ridiculous situation now.
I am not perfect. Never claimed to be. But I also know that I have no problem stating my opinion. We all have em right?
There are plenty of good people on this site. There are plenty of good cappers on this site. And once in a while, you get a good capper who is also a good person. I have never claimed to be a great capper. In fact, it's all in good fun for me and if I make a little money as I go, great. But one thing I do know is that I'm a good person and I'm comfortable in my own skin. I also possess something that's called a sense of humor....something that is lost on some people. Those of you that have met me in person know what I'm about and who I am. So what do you guys think? Is ppabart (the online guy) and Bart (the real life guy) not the same person? I certainly think so. If anyone disagrees, it's absolutely their right to do so.
This whole situation is just comedy now. Anyone who has witnessed the entire thing from start to finish and not just popped in to see certain pieces, knows how crazy this has gotten. This is how I have seen things progress.....
Just like many people on this site, arrow's constant need for affirmation of his awesomeness rubs me the wrong way. The constant self-serving comments got old to me and so yes, I did decide to voice my opinion. But here's where I get lost. Instead of him just blowing me off, putting me on his ignor list, or taking any other path, he decided to make a huge deal out of it....say he was leaving (which he's done before....and never stuck to). I never said I wanted Arrow to leave or stop posting. That was a choice that he made. It's up to him whether or not he wants to post his plays or not....and he's made the decision to not post. Then, to compound matters, he sits behind his computer and waits for me to have a bad day, and comes into the handicapping forum on multiple occasions to make some snide comment about my bad day. Now, was I guilty of doing this first? Yes. But Jack asked to clean that up. So I never did it again. If I had, I would have served a ban of some kind. Nobody is immune to that, nor should they be. So I respected what Jack told me to do, which is what I should have done in the first place.
Although I can't speak for Jack, I have to imagine that he asked Arrow to do the same thing....but he couldn't do it. He felt it necessary to continue to pop into my threads after a losing day (you'd never see him come in after a winning day). I've done my best to limit my responses to him. In fact, I don't really want to write this message because in some small way, I know it'll just keep things going for him. But I wanted to clear the air with some of you guys that I know and respect. In fact, go back and look here:
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460524
I stayed away because I didn't want to promote any more of the nonsense that was going on. I had 1 post in the entire thread, and it was early on when I was talking to loophole. After that, I had nothing to do with it.
Yes, if you go back, you can find places where I lost my cool and got irritated....but I apologized to the one person that I needed to apologize to....Jack. Once he told me that we were all good, that's all that mattered to me. I also promised him that I would remove myself from the situation. I welcome Jack to call me out right here if I didn't do a good enough job of that.
The final thing I will say about this is.....I love this website. It's a part of my life that I wouldnt trade for the world. I've met a lot of great people on here, shared my life on here (both the good and the bad), and made some amazing friends that will always be in my life. This site is not a means to an end for me.
At this point I am utterly disgusted with the whole thing, not that anyone besides myself gives a damn, however, there are some things that both sides make valid points about. I could care less if Bart and Arrow get along with each other. I have no hard feelings against either. I do know for fact that I personally do not take anything on this forum as being a true reflection of the person typing the message. I understand that I am not happy with YYZ at times however I promise you all would be forgotten if we were ever to meet. I don't know the man from Adam and I am certainly not in a position to pass judgement. I do recall that Arrow asked Bart to stay out of his threads and Bart did not, hence the emptiness of Bart's request to Arrow.
Arrow,
I don't know if you are still posting plays in here or not but I do know that Bleeding Purple is a stand up guy and he says you are a solid capper and that is really all I know about Arrow and as far as that goes, he should be allowed to proceed unencumbered with the dread of being attacked at every turn. That being said, if I were Arrow I wouldn't be feeding into the bullshit which he is most definitely doing. I would excuse myself from the pettiness in the General Forum, which is exactly what I contribute to the General at times. However, you don't see me in the political forum and all that either. Bunch of idiots in there in my opinion, not personally, just what they post makes me feel that way. So I avoid it. There are people on here that don't like me either, but they are cordial to me when i see them and that is fine with me.
Bart,
As an administrator of someone's life work and website, I would be a bit remiss to turn people away from it due to personal reasons. As an administrator, it is incumbent upon you to take the high road not get in the middle of it. I also am very well aware that this was an unsolicited editorial and am not looking to get into the middle of this but it is starting to fester in the General forum and that is where I don't need to see the bullshit. High road big boy, high road. You know I have nothing but respect for you but this shit is old enough, seriously.
Cheers to all and hope all had a great Thanksgiving.
Hope that helped,
FDC
Bart is NOT an admin.
Bart, please get rid of that title, even FDC thinks you're an admin. Please get rid of it. Thanks.
Bart is NOT an admin.
Bart, please get rid of that title, even FDC thinks you're an admin. Please get rid of it. Thanks.
Jack has me doing it for now. We are working on revamping the entire site.
There will be a chess sub-forum soon as well as a handball fantasy discussion sub-forum.
we will also have user sub-forums:
ARROWTIME
BARTS BUSINESS
and of course
NOBODYCARESABOUTTHERAVENS
gl
Jack has me doing it for now. We are working on revamping the entire site.
There will be a chess sub-forum soon as well as a handball fantasy discussion sub-forum.
we will also have user sub-forums:
ARROWTIME
BARTS BUSINESS
and of course
NOBODYCARESABOUTTHERAVENS
gl
NOBODYCARESABOUTTHERAVENS
Hey guys....I am writing this to everyone just so you can see what I think of this whole ridiculous situation now.
I am not perfect. Never claimed to be. But I also know that I have no problem stating my opinion. We all have em right?
There are plenty of good people on this site. There are plenty of good cappers on this site. And once in a while, you get a good capper who is also a good person. I have never claimed to be a great capper. In fact, it's all in good fun for me and if I make a little money as I go, great. But one thing I do know is that I'm a good person and I'm comfortable in my own skin. I also possess something that's called a sense of humor....something that is lost on some people. Those of you that have met me in person know what I'm about and who I am. So what do you guys think? Is ppabart (the online guy) and Bart (the real life guy) not the same person? I certainly think so. If anyone disagrees, it's absolutely their right to do so.
This whole situation is just comedy now. Anyone who has witnessed the entire thing from start to finish and not just popped in to see certain pieces, knows how crazy this has gotten. This is how I have seen things progress.....
Just like many people on this site, arrow's constant need for affirmation of his awesomeness rubs me the wrong way. The constant self-serving comments got old to me and so yes, I did decide to voice my opinion. But here's where I get lost. Instead of him just blowing me off, putting me on his ignor list, or taking any other path, he decided to make a huge deal out of it....say he was leaving (which he's done before....and never stuck to). I never said I wanted Arrow to leave or stop posting. That was a choice that he made. It's up to him whether or not he wants to post his plays or not....and he's made the decision to not post. Then, to compound matters, he sits behind his computer and waits for me to have a bad day, and comes into the handicapping forum on multiple occasions to make some snide comment about my bad day. Now, was I guilty of doing this first? Yes. But Jack asked to clean that up. So I never did it again. If I had, I would have served a ban of some kind. Nobody is immune to that, nor should they be. So I respected what Jack told me to do, which is what I should have done in the first place.
Although I can't speak for Jack, I have to imagine that he asked Arrow to do the same thing....but he couldn't do it. He felt it necessary to continue to pop into my threads after a losing day (you'd never see him come in after a winning day). I've done my best to limit my responses to him. In fact, I don't really want to write this message because in some small way, I know it'll just keep things going for him. But I wanted to clear the air with some of you guys that I know and respect. In fact, go back and look here:
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460524
I stayed away because I didn't want to promote any more of the nonsense that was going on. I had 1 post in the entire thread, and it was early on when I was talking to loophole. After that, I had nothing to do with it.
Yes, if you go back, you can find places where I lost my cool and got irritated....but I apologized to the one person that I needed to apologize to....Jack. Once he told me that we were all good, that's all that mattered to me. I also promised him that I would remove myself from the situation. I welcome Jack to call me out right here if I didn't do a good enough job of that.
The final thing I will say about this is.....I love this website. It's a part of my life that I wouldnt trade for the world. I've met a lot of great people on here, shared my life on here (both the good and the bad), and made some amazing friends that will always be in my life. This site is not a means to an end for me.
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