AT&T Pebble Beach
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1st Round Match-ups
1st Round Match-ups
FIRST POST:
Chopra -188 over Stankowski--(bet365) WON
Weir -188 over Barlow--(bet365) LOSS
1st Round Match-ups
FIRST POST:
Chopra -188 over Stankowski--(bet365) WON
Weir -188 over Barlow--(bet365) LOSS
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2008: +13.59
Matchups: 24-14-4 (+7.81)
Outrights: 2-18 (+5.78)
1ST ROUND MATCHUPS: (pinnacle)
K. Na over A. Romero -125 WON
M. Weir over P. Harrington -105 LOST
J. Quinney over B. Davis -130 WON
D.J. Trahan over J. Kaye -130 LOST
:canada1
Matchups: 24-14-4 (+7.81)
Outrights: 2-18 (+5.78)
1ST ROUND MATCHUPS: (pinnacle)
K. Na over A. Romero -125 WON
M. Weir over P. Harrington -105 LOST
J. Quinney over B. Davis -130 WON
D.J. Trahan over J. Kaye -130 LOST
:canada1
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72 holes
@ Pinn
Elk -115 over Na
D Johnson -115 over Romero
@ Oly
J Day -110 over Romero
@ WSEX
Sutherland -110 over Holmes
Weir -120 over Leonard
@5D
J Wagoner -115 over JP Hayes
@ Pinn
Elk -115 over Na
D Johnson -115 over Romero
@ Oly
J Day -110 over Romero
@ WSEX
Sutherland -110 over Holmes
Weir -120 over Leonard
@5D
J Wagoner -115 over JP Hayes
Round 1 plays (1pt)
Fredrik Jacobson to beat Daisuke Maruyama -145 @ Pinnacle
Jacobson can play these courses well - he was 3rd after 36 holes on his previous visit; Maruyama missed the cut on his only previous visit - but the difference between these two players is shown by their head-to-head records: 11-4-1 over the last 12 months and in the first round alone it is 10-3-3
Jason Day to beat Greg Norman -135 @ The Greek
Norman may have played well in the South African Open in December, but that is his only Tour start in the last 12 months. And the last time he started a PGA Tour event was back in 2006 - he missed the cut as he has done in his last six PGA Tour starts. The last time he broke 70 on this Tour was in August 2003 ... how can he be a match for such a great prospect as Day?
Fredrik Jacobson to beat Daisuke Maruyama -145 @ Pinnacle
Jacobson can play these courses well - he was 3rd after 36 holes on his previous visit; Maruyama missed the cut on his only previous visit - but the difference between these two players is shown by their head-to-head records: 11-4-1 over the last 12 months and in the first round alone it is 10-3-3
Jason Day to beat Greg Norman -135 @ The Greek
Norman may have played well in the South African Open in December, but that is his only Tour start in the last 12 months. And the last time he started a PGA Tour event was back in 2006 - he missed the cut as he has done in his last six PGA Tour starts. The last time he broke 70 on this Tour was in August 2003 ... how can he be a match for such a great prospect as Day?
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OUTRIGHTS:
Mike Weir(18/1) e.w.
- - Besides having reasons to be a little ornery, something of a small greens and California specialist.
Daniel Chopra(33/1) e.w.
- - My 5th Indian.
Kevin Sutherland(50/1) e.w.
- - Alert: Of any player on Tour that comes to mind, his swing most reminds me of my own - not that that's a good thing.
Nick Watney(50/1) e.w.
- - He showed a lot at Kapalua and he wants this to be the place, but his putting and birdie conversion rate suggest somewhere else.
Kenneth Ferrie(150/1) e.w.
- - What an odd assortment on my radar I had left to chose from: Ferrie, Rumford, Clark, Harrington and Elkington, plus Mediate, Mahan and Byrd becaues I'm light on Yanks. Right here and now, just playing a hunch as the best priced choice for getting untracked and then miraculously taking it across the finish line.
GL
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Borrowed from elsewhere:
Last 10 winners: Age - Prev win on tour - Event form - Recent form.
07 - Mickelson - 36 - Yes - Yes - Poor (MC in FBR)
06 - Oberholser - 31 - No - Yes - Promising (2 nice perfs)
05 - Mickelson - 34 - Yes - Yes - Yes won FBR
04 - Singh - 40 - Yes - Yes - Yes - 3rd in FBR
03 - Love - 38 - Yes - Yes - not bad, 12th Bob Hope
02 - Gogel - 30 - No - Yes - Not really 2 x mc & 28th FBR
01 - Love - 36 - Yes - yes - Not bad, 10th in Sony
00 - Woods - 24 - Yes - Yes - Yes won merc
99 - Stewart - 41 - Yes - Yes - Yes
98 - Mickelson - 27 - Yes - Yes - Yes Won Merc.
So ages varying from 24 - 41 have won this, although the 2 players who won in their 20's were outstanding players.
Previous tour winner: 8 out of 10 were.
Definetly need to have shown something in the event, 10 out of 10 had played and played well here previously, so no rookies, again that could be a pro am thing as it takes some getting used to (I know they have them on NW).
9 out of 10 are Yanks (and the 1 who isn't was about to enjoy his best ever year and become World No. 1), only 3 foreign winners in event history.
8 out of 10 had form in the events leading up to the event.
So basically looking for the obvious.
Mike Weir(18/1) e.w.
- - Besides having reasons to be a little ornery, something of a small greens and California specialist.
Daniel Chopra(33/1) e.w.
- - My 5th Indian.
Kevin Sutherland(50/1) e.w.
- - Alert: Of any player on Tour that comes to mind, his swing most reminds me of my own - not that that's a good thing.
Nick Watney(50/1) e.w.
- - He showed a lot at Kapalua and he wants this to be the place, but his putting and birdie conversion rate suggest somewhere else.
Kenneth Ferrie(150/1) e.w.
- - What an odd assortment on my radar I had left to chose from: Ferrie, Rumford, Clark, Harrington and Elkington, plus Mediate, Mahan and Byrd becaues I'm light on Yanks. Right here and now, just playing a hunch as the best priced choice for getting untracked and then miraculously taking it across the finish line.
GL
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Borrowed from elsewhere:
Last 10 winners: Age - Prev win on tour - Event form - Recent form.
07 - Mickelson - 36 - Yes - Yes - Poor (MC in FBR)
06 - Oberholser - 31 - No - Yes - Promising (2 nice perfs)
05 - Mickelson - 34 - Yes - Yes - Yes won FBR
04 - Singh - 40 - Yes - Yes - Yes - 3rd in FBR
03 - Love - 38 - Yes - Yes - not bad, 12th Bob Hope
02 - Gogel - 30 - No - Yes - Not really 2 x mc & 28th FBR
01 - Love - 36 - Yes - yes - Not bad, 10th in Sony
00 - Woods - 24 - Yes - Yes - Yes won merc
99 - Stewart - 41 - Yes - Yes - Yes
98 - Mickelson - 27 - Yes - Yes - Yes Won Merc.
So ages varying from 24 - 41 have won this, although the 2 players who won in their 20's were outstanding players.
Previous tour winner: 8 out of 10 were.
Definetly need to have shown something in the event, 10 out of 10 had played and played well here previously, so no rookies, again that could be a pro am thing as it takes some getting used to (I know they have them on NW).
9 out of 10 are Yanks (and the 1 who isn't was about to enjoy his best ever year and become World No. 1), only 3 foreign winners in event history.
8 out of 10 had form in the events leading up to the event.
So basically looking for the obvious.
Elkington 21 putts thru 8 holes :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :scared :scared :0corn :0corn I can't believe i backed him this week :shrug:
got 3 days and putting at poppy hills wasn't much better last year
http://www.pgatour.com/players/00/13/13/scorecards/2007/r005.html
2008: +13.24
Matchups: 26-16-4 (+7.46)
Outrights: 2-18 (+5.78)
Round 2 Matchups: (pinnacle)
J. Leonard over J. Ogilvie -185 LOST
M. Weir over P. Harrington -105 WON
K. Na over A. Romero -130 WON
:canada1
Matchups: 26-16-4 (+7.46)
Outrights: 2-18 (+5.78)
Round 2 Matchups: (pinnacle)
J. Leonard over J. Ogilvie -185 LOST
M. Weir over P. Harrington -105 WON
K. Na over A. Romero -130 WON
:canada1
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Match-ups: 1-1 (-.88)
2ND ROUND MATCHUPS:
D. Love III -130 over C. DiMarco (Pinn) WON.
Leonard -185 over J. Ogilvie (Pinn) LOSS
2ND ROUND MATCHUPS:
D. Love III -130 over C. DiMarco (Pinn) WON.
Leonard -185 over J. Ogilvie (Pinn) LOSS
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2nd rd @ 5D
Sport / Period: PGA Golf / Game
Line:
Dean Wilson (2nd Rnd) 2/8/2008 11:20:01 AM - (EST)
-115
Opponent: Greg Norman (2nd Rnd)
Believe Greg is just out on stroll with son--Wilson might have some good vibes from Spyglass last year with 6 birdies and no bogies--however very misleading as his ball striking @SG was poor-saved only by 23 putts (1.455/gir)
Sport / Period: PGA Golf / Game
Line:
Dean Wilson (2nd Rnd) 2/8/2008 11:20:01 AM - (EST)
-115
Opponent: Greg Norman (2nd Rnd)
Believe Greg is just out on stroll with son--Wilson might have some good vibes from Spyglass last year with 6 birdies and no bogies--however very misleading as his ball striking @SG was poor-saved only by 23 putts (1.455/gir)
Round 2 plays (1pt)
Alejandro Canizares to beat Joe Ogilvie -115 @ Five Dimes
Backing the better player and who was much better from tee-to-green than his opponent yesterday. Around the much tougher Spyglass Hill course, that difference should be accentuated today
Kevin Sutherland to beat Pat Perez -115 @ Five Dimes
Sutherland was surprisingly poor yesterday, but he was still far better from tee-to-green than Perez who only hit 9/18 greens in regulation around the easiest course. As with the previous play, such differences should be magnified today and there is still time for Sutherland to get back into this tournament
Garrett Willis to beat Dicky Pride -110 @ Five Dimes
I don't think is still time for Pride to get back into this tournament - he is 2nd-last - and doesn't have a good record of 'bouncing back' when quite so far off the cut mark
Padraig Harrington to beat Mike Weir -107 @ Pinnacle
There is no bigger hypochondriac in professional golf was Pod ... he seems to revel in adversity. He was well enough to hit 14/18 very small greens around Pebble Beach yesterday and his game appears in far better shape than Weir's
James Driscoll to beat Brett Rumford +100 @ Five Dimes
Rumford has been at least 10 shots off the pace after 18 holes twice this year and has shot 73-75 in the 2nd round. He's a player who will miss a lot of cuts and I can't see a bounce-back taking place today
Alejandro Canizares to beat Joe Ogilvie -115 @ Five Dimes
Backing the better player and who was much better from tee-to-green than his opponent yesterday. Around the much tougher Spyglass Hill course, that difference should be accentuated today
Kevin Sutherland to beat Pat Perez -115 @ Five Dimes
Sutherland was surprisingly poor yesterday, but he was still far better from tee-to-green than Perez who only hit 9/18 greens in regulation around the easiest course. As with the previous play, such differences should be magnified today and there is still time for Sutherland to get back into this tournament
Garrett Willis to beat Dicky Pride -110 @ Five Dimes
I don't think is still time for Pride to get back into this tournament - he is 2nd-last - and doesn't have a good record of 'bouncing back' when quite so far off the cut mark
Padraig Harrington to beat Mike Weir -107 @ Pinnacle
There is no bigger hypochondriac in professional golf was Pod ... he seems to revel in adversity. He was well enough to hit 14/18 very small greens around Pebble Beach yesterday and his game appears in far better shape than Weir's
James Driscoll to beat Brett Rumford +100 @ Five Dimes
Rumford has been at least 10 shots off the pace after 18 holes twice this year and has shot 73-75 in the 2nd round. He's a player who will miss a lot of cuts and I can't see a bounce-back taking place today
2008: +13.39
Matchups: 28-17-4 (+7.61) (62.2%)
Outrights: 2-18 (+5.78)
ROUND 3 MATCHUPS: (pinnacle)
K. Na over A. Romero -145 WON
M. Weir over P. Harrington +105 LOST
B. Van Pelt over T. Purdy -115 WON
:canada1
Matchups: 28-17-4 (+7.61) (62.2%)
Outrights: 2-18 (+5.78)
ROUND 3 MATCHUPS: (pinnacle)
K. Na over A. Romero -145 WON
M. Weir over P. Harrington +105 LOST
B. Van Pelt over T. Purdy -115 WON
:canada1
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Match-ups: 2-2 (-1.75)
3rd Round Match-ups (pinn)
J.Kaye -105 over D>J>Trahan LOSS
F. Jacobson -125 over D. Maruyama WIN
3rd Round Match-ups (pinn)
J.Kaye -105 over D>J>Trahan LOSS
F. Jacobson -125 over D. Maruyama WIN
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3rd rd
Harrignton -120 vs Na
Feb 09 303 P HARRINGTON RD 3 -120
12:00 PM 304 K NA RD 3 -110
was going to pass but thought might help those who faded Harrington this week as this should put Murphy on him.
Weird shit can happen in these rd by rd--Yesterday Norman shoots his 1st subpar rd since moby dick was a minnow--Last week get Ohern ranked 167th in final rd scr and hadn't broke par on pga but once in final rd in 2years--he continues his ave but Leonard comes in with 70 67 66 77
--so maybe 3rd times a charm
Harrignton -120 vs Na
Feb 09 303 P HARRINGTON RD 3 -120
12:00 PM 304 K NA RD 3 -110
was going to pass but thought might help those who faded Harrington this week as this should put Murphy on him.
Weird shit can happen in these rd by rd--Yesterday Norman shoots his 1st subpar rd since moby dick was a minnow--Last week get Ohern ranked 167th in final rd scr and hadn't broke par on pga but once in final rd in 2years--he continues his ave but Leonard comes in with 70 67 66 77
--so maybe 3rd times a charm
3rd round plays (1pt):
Kyle Thompson to beat John Daly -133 @ Five Dimes
Opposing Daly who is hardly renowned for trying his best when out of contention. For parallels with this situation, in three of the last five times that he has been at least 15 shots off the lead after 36 holes, he has shot 80 or higher in the 3rd round
Alex Cejka to beat Kent Jones +110 @ William Hill
Jones has missed the cut in all three starts this year and in each of the last two years here, so I can only see him struggling again after being the sole leader after 18 holes
Brian Davis to beat Frank Lickliter +103 @ Five Dimes
His fifth straight week of Tour golf which also includes a flight from Hawaii to Florida to be with his new-born twins, Lickliter must surely be running out of gas by now. And after failing to make the cut in this event of any of the last four years, maybe he should have taken a break this week. He should at least have Sunday to rest
Kyle Thompson to beat John Daly -133 @ Five Dimes
Opposing Daly who is hardly renowned for trying his best when out of contention. For parallels with this situation, in three of the last five times that he has been at least 15 shots off the lead after 36 holes, he has shot 80 or higher in the 3rd round
Alex Cejka to beat Kent Jones +110 @ William Hill
Jones has missed the cut in all three starts this year and in each of the last two years here, so I can only see him struggling again after being the sole leader after 18 holes
Brian Davis to beat Frank Lickliter +103 @ Five Dimes
His fifth straight week of Tour golf which also includes a flight from Hawaii to Florida to be with his new-born twins, Lickliter must surely be running out of gas by now. And after failing to make the cut in this event of any of the last four years, maybe he should have taken a break this week. He should at least have Sunday to rest
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In-Running Outright
Harrington 40 to 1- Past two rounds had an eight and a seven on two par 5's. With pars there he'd be tied for the lead. He's 5 back but theres a lot of inexperience up there besides singh. I still don't trust singh this season and Pebble has turned out some high scores this week. Winner could easily be -9 or -10...plus final round comebacks are possible here
Harrington 40 to 1- Past two rounds had an eight and a seven on two par 5's. With pars there he'd be tied for the lead. He's 5 back but theres a lot of inexperience up there besides singh. I still don't trust singh this season and Pebble has turned out some high scores this week. Winner could easily be -9 or -10...plus final round comebacks are possible here
