jack, i just met you and respect you and this business i use. And of course i use this forum for sending out info and gathering some. It seems as now there is only one sport playing that we have a new mix of people coming on and really taunting some of us older capers. We know most will be gone in a few weeks or months, because the bookies will be after them, or when they lose their last 100.00 on a basketball game, they will not be able to bet , so bye, bye. But maybe a charge would be the thing to do. Ever think about some type of pool that you get so many posts a day and you make money from the pool when you win the game and you pay when you lose the game. I would love it and i think us old timers would love the competition trying to beat it. I also think that after a few of the kids that keep shooting their mouths off and pissing some of us good capers off and possibly into leaving, like cooler. Everyone would pay 100.00 or more, make it affordable, because for numbers and marketing and profitability sake we do need a vast selection of age groups to always maintain strength and profit. when the money is gone from your account from posting losers, of course this will take time, but would work in the long run. The losers cannot talk but have access to read from the winners posts. This way everyones record would be posted every day and how much there up each day. It's all programming, just like poker. But everyday everyone would know where everybody stands and everyones %. Good capers would make a little money and bad would lose into the pool everyday to pay the winners. Because there is only so many of us who can actually show profit year after year, the losers pool would get to be so high that you jack could put up money or bonus, or weekly, monthly, or yearly contests. This would lure the best capers to the site and still serve as a function for the beginner all the way to experienced. This would make you different and better than all the rest. I would be interested in investing , not only as a member for wins/loses, but marketing and selling it. I know myself , my skills and my work ethic, and i would love to compete against the best win or lose. Anyways this is a idea that i would love to hear from other members. Tell me what you think if your still up.