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So many knee jerk reacting fans around these parts. :142smilie

I still chuck at all these "worst conference final team ever comments."


i was being sarcastic, that game did nothing to change my opinion of the Raptors - if anyone knows of a CF team in the last 40 years that was worse i'm still all ears......
 

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i was being sarcastic, that game did nothing to change my opinion of the Raptors - if anyone knows of a CF team in the last 40 years that was worse i'm still all ears......

Spurs lost in 2001 by a combined 89 points. Something the Cavs won't match.

So you tell me ;)
 

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the 2001 spurs played the 2001 Lakers - the 2001 Lakers would sweep the Cavs and that 89 point differential would be in serious jeopardy
 

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the 2001 spurs played the 2001 Lakers - the 2001 Lakers would sweep the Cavs and that 89 point differential would be in serious jeopardy

And this statement just shows how ignorant your basketball IQ is.

Again, lets base an argument on facts, and I'd be glad to talk. But you can't, so keep hating and maybe that'll win you some bets?
 

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congrats on digging up the "fact" about the 2001 WC Finals, very impressive

the "fact" that you think that has anything to do with how atricious the Raptors and this year's version of the EC are is pretty entertaining

keep schooling us Watt, like John Doe in Se7en you really have the upper hand!!!!
 

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When basing an opinion, you can't use fallacies. It just makes your opinion exaggerated and silly.

At least do your damn homework and look up some other examples and present them. Don't just make an opinion with ZERO research, and try to stick your opinion on others as FACT.

You've been educated. I'll drop the mic and let you pick it up. Maybe it comes with a google search function on it :142smilie
 

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When basing an opinion, you can't use fallacies. It just makes your opinion exaggerated and silly.

At least do your damn homework and look up some other examples and present them. Don't just make an opinion with ZERO research, and try to stick your opinion on others as FACT.

You've been educated. I'll drop the mic and let you pick it up. Maybe it comes with a google search function on it :142smilie


thx for the education! drop the mic:mj07::mj07:
 

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thx for the education! drop the mic:mj07::mj07:

Don't listen to this homer cause his team plays in the East. I've been watching NBA for 20+ years & w/out "researching" I think the Raptors gotta b the worst team I've ever seen play in the EC finals. The East is so bad this year. Glad we get to enjoy the great series in the West 2nite.
 

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Don't listen to this homer cause his team plays in the East. I've been watching NBA for 20+ years & w/out "researching" I think the Raptors gotta b the worst team I've ever seen play in the EC finals. The East is so bad this year. Glad we get to enjoy the great series in the West 2nite.

not really listening to him Garrett just kind of enjoying watching him make an ass of himself

gl - burns
 

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Don't listen to this homer cause his team plays in the East. I've been watching NBA for 20+ years & w/out "researching" I think the Raptors gotta b the worst team I've ever seen play in the EC finals. The East is so bad this year. Glad we get to enjoy the great series in the West 2nite.

I've been watching the NBA for 20+ years as well. Guess we're at a standstill. But I've presented a fact. You've presented an opinion. Glad you're not a damn judge, America really would be in the toilet.

Just give credit where credit is due. You're hating on the Raptors to strengthen your argument to hate on the Cavs. But you wanna give credit to the Lakers for their dismantling of the Spurs. Yet, when the Warriors shred apart 2 teams the Raptors would've beaten, you wanna chest thump the Warriors.
 

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Shaq in his prime vs tristan thompson

:mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::0002


I'm sure Fisher and Lue would've took Kyrie to town also :mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07:

Maybe in the finals we would've had a Kyrie stepping over Lue instead of Iverson
 

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Rick Fox, Devean George guarding LeBron :mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07:

But yet the Lakers would win by 89+

Come on. Show some more IQ
 

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.....................who was previously the worst team in the history of the conference finals in the NBA?

where are all you haters now??? Even the refs couldn't stop the Raptors.:00hour:00hour:00hour:00hour:firing::firing::firing::firing::firing:x30:x30:
 

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where are all you haters now??? Even the refs couldn't stop the Raptors.:00hour:00hour:00hour:00hour:firing::firing::firing::firing::firing:x30:x30:

still here Crookity, and just for the record not a Raptor hater as I'm pulling for them to win the series.....

glad to see that they raised their level of play at home and hope that they are able to raise that level on the road as well as their last few performances away from home have been dreadful at best - still think that the play overall in the league is way down and that the EC in general this year was historically bad and that the Raptors do not fare well at all in comparison to the strength of previous conference finalists in the NBA - don't think the Cavs are a good enough team where we can point to beating them as proof that the Raptors are somehow totally legit


at the end of the day none of this really matters - when I started this thread one point I was trying to make was that there has been a major decline in the NBA product, as despite the strong recent play by OKC even the WC Finals look like a glorified pickup game most of the time with tons of awful turnovers, bad shots, etc - and that the EC was really bad this year, like when has there been a worse 8 teams to make the EC playoffs then the lineup trotted out this year? and still say there are few previous NBA conference finalists, if any, that would lose to the Raptors in a 7 game series (going back to at least the early 80's)


either way I am cheering for the Raptors to somehow pull off a series win despite their long odds to do so - but even if they win it will not really change my opinion of how good they really are as a team in a historical sense


good luck - burns
 

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The Raptors

The Raptors

People are so hyped on them winning, because it will be like turning the odds in your favour - simply amazing.
 

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Spurs in 2001 lost by a combined 89 points in the WCF. The Cavs aren't going to break that record. But we also won't have anyone try to prove Toronto is THAT bad, rather just make falicy statements....ironic how that works :)

looks like that number was indeed topped, by my math the Cavs outscored the Raptors by 93 despite losing games 3 and 4 by a combined 21 points, tough feat to accomplish for sure


congrats to the Cavs for making their way through the worst group of playoff teams a conference has ever assembled, as per the norm I am guessing the finals will be a different story
 
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