Bellator 39 Weigh-In Results: Alvarez, Curran Official for Title Fight

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Alvarez is easily top 5, there are not 5 LW's in the world better than him.
 

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MayorgaFan.....I totally disagree, but it is all subjective.


I'd rank him #8 or at worst #9
 

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Not sure where Eddie ranks, but he is damn good.

I enjoyed that fight - been waiting a long time to see Curran get his ask kicked.

Tough kid - but extremely undeserving of a title shot.

Imada beat him clearly last year.
 

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There's not more than 5 people better than Alvarez. The only 2 guys I pick to beat him are Edgar and maybe Maynard. Tonight was a good thing, showed he could fight the 5 round distance.
 

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And you overrate him:tongue

Now way in hell is he 3.

I mean he lost to the most overrated fighter in all of MMA for fucks sake.


But hey Eddie seems like a good guy and has an attractive wife so all good. But he ain't #3 that is for damn sure.

Ya gotta fight the best to be the best.
 

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DeFacto........keep in mind Alvarez lost to the most overrated MMA fighter on the planet in Aoki. How anyone can think Alvarez is top 5 is beyond me? Plus you gotta fight the best to be in top 5.


As for your question.......


All these guys are above Alvarez.....

Shinya Aoki
Kenny Florian
B.J. Penn
Anthony Pettis
Evan Dunham
Frankie Edgar
Gray Maynard
Gilbert Melendez
Jim Miller
 

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Didn't GSP lose to Serra :shrug: What is the difference between losing to Aoki with losing to Serra?
 

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That was 100 years ago and GSP fights top competition.

Alvarez does not.

Simple as that.
 

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That was 100 years ago and GSP fights top competition.

Alvarez does not.

Simple as that.

He gave Huerta his worst beating out of al the fights i ever saw Huerta fight. Huerta didn't take those beatings in the ufc. Some thought he beat Maynard.
 

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Agreed.......but beating Huerta doesn't get ya top 5....Pat Curran beat Huerta.


Alvarez is a good fighter, but not close to being the best.



Since 2009 here are the guys he's fought........


Win Pat Curran
Win Roger Huerta
Win Josh Neer
Win Katsunori Kikuno
Win Toby Imada
Win Eric Reynolds
Win Greg Loughran
Loss Shinya Aoki




That ain't exactly the best of competition. As stated earlier you have to be nuts to think he deserves a top 5 ranking.
 

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Agreed.......but beating Huerta doesn't get ya top 5....

I agree with you here.

Alvarez is a good fighter, but not close to being the best.



Since 2009 here are the guys he's fought........


Win Pat Curran
Win Roger Huerta
Win Josh Neer
Win Katsunori Kikuno
Win Toby Imada
Win Eric Reynolds
Win Greg Loughran
Loss Shinya Aoki




That ain't exactly the best of competition. As stated earlier you have to be nuts to think he deserves a top 5 ranking.

Yea those names aren't exactly impressive but you still rank aoki higher him and thats his only loss, why so hard on him :shrug:

aoki was like a god to mma fanboys until the melendez fight too
 

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I am willing to rank Eddie above Aoki....Aoki is so massively overrated it ain't even funny. That was a horrific loss for Alvarez. Absolutely horrific.

How can you rank Eddie Top 5 when ya lose to Aoki:shrug:
 

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How can you rank Eddie Top 5 when ya lose to Aoki:shrug:

Im kinda on the fence with alvarez, I would tend to lead towards what you're saying but I just think you were being hard on him raking jim miller above him haha.

I think aoki just got a certain aspect of his game exposed and could still beat many of the people you listed. I think aoki could beat frank edgar is it was in a ring.
 

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i`ll be surprised if kawajiri beats melendez...i mean,he could...but i `d rather put melendez in a parlay or two than take kawajiri as a dog at less than +200.....

he couldn`t do it in friendly surroundings in japan...what makes everyone think he beats melendez in the states in a cage?...

many of japan`s/pride`s best have had trouble acclimating in their first fight away from home...

just curious...
 

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In our latest MMAjunkie.com poll, we asked our readers to decide which of those four lightweights should rightfully be called the world's best.Thousands voted, and the stunningly one-sided results were revealed on this week's new edition of HDNet's "Inside MMA."

A total of 54 percent of voters believe that current UFC champion Frankie Edgar (13-1-1 MMA, 8-1-1) is the world's greatest 155-pound fighter.

It's hard to argue with his credentials. Sure, Edgar was floored repeatedly in his January fight with Maynard, but he battled back to salvage a draw in a fight some believe he may have actually won. Add in a pair of dominating 2010 victories over UFC legend B.J. Penn, and Edgar's accomplishments speak for themselves.

Top UFC lightweight contender Jim Miller, who was a guest on "Inside MMA," agreed with the results.

"I think Frankie has proven himself by beating B.J. twice," Miller said. "That last fight with Gray, he showed so much heart and toughness. I could see the draw, but I also had him winning the last four rounds. He's a tough dude."

Second on the list with 16 percent of the vote was Eddie Alvarez (21-2 MMA, 5-0 BFC), who defends his Bellator crown against Pat Curran at tonight's MTV2-broadcast Bellator 39 event.
Currently riding a six-fight win streak, Alvarez's reputation is sometimes hindered by the fact that he doesn't fight in the octagon. Nevertheless, Alvarez has shown the ability to dominate competition outside the UFC by racking up wins for Bellator, DREAM, EliteXC and BodogFIGHT.

Trailing Alvarez was Strikeforce champ Gilbert Melendez (18-2 MMA, 8-1 SF), who netted 14 percent of the vote. Melendez carries a four-fight win streak into his matchup with Tatsuya Kawajiri at next week's "Strikeforce: Daley vs. Diaz" event.

Melendez has also been fighting on a smaller stage than the UFC, but that could all soon change with Strikeforce's recent sale to the UFC's parent company, Zuffa LLC.

Maynard (10-0-1 MMA, 8-0-1 UFC) landed just 10 percent of the vote despite his 1-0-1 record with Edgar.

The other 6 percent of voters believe the world's best lightweight is someone other than those four competitors.

So what do you think? Is it really that clear-cut? State your case in the comments section below.

Additionally, don't forget to vote in this week's new poll on the MMAjunkie.com homepage. We want to know who you think wins the April 9 fight between Nick Diaz and Paul Daley.
 

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DeFacto........keep in mind Alvarez lost to the most overrated MMA fighter on the planet in Aoki. How anyone can think Alvarez is top 5 is beyond me? Plus you gotta fight the best to be in top 5.


As for your question.......


All these guys are above Alvarez.....

Shinya Aoki
Kenny Florian
B.J. Penn
Anthony Pettis
Evan Dunham
Frankie Edgar
Gray Maynard
Gilbert Melendez
Jim Miller

Penn and Florian don't even fight at LW now. Seems like you are just trying to name anyone. Even a guy like dunham who was completely wrecked in his last fight. Sorry most of those guys are not better than alvarez nor should they be rated ahead of him.
 
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