Betting Mayweather

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should have been hatton vs cotto with the winner fighting mayweather,imo...

i basically agree with the majority sentiment here....

hatton`s all class...and he has a major league set of coulumes coming to america and giving up his home court advantage when he really didn`t have to...

mucho respect for ricky...he`s a man...

that said,if he beats mayweather...after struggling mightily with another legit welter "boxer"(collazo),i,like night janitor,i will be stunned....

ricky`s had 1 fight at welter...and it didn`t go all that well...i thought slick collazo actually won...and that ricky`s stamina was poor....he really petered out late...

now,he jumps 7 pounds again to fight a taller master boxer..."the" master boxer... who`s just finished out-pointing a huge(compared to hatton) oscar dlh.....

no manchester....it`s in vegas...

i guess he could pull a castilo and try and bull floyd into the ropes and rough him up...but,i think floyd will be the naturally bigger guy here..with a height advantage...

what really scares me is that these odds have actually dropped a bit...and no one in my circle,or the sites i frequent,like anything other than mayweather here...

....the books could really make a killing if hatton pulls it off( i remember a fight awhile back in which everybody had the under...lol)...and floyd isn`t exactly beloved...

those vegas judges....whew.....and this has a real good chance of getting to the cards...

this scares me a bit because it reminds me of the nfl......early in the season,the bettor starts out holding his own only to inevitably take it on the chin as the lines sharpen later in the season...

a hatton victory would surely be a fine christmas present for the books...

btw,sponge....i couldn`t move a line with a forklift....i`m small potatoes all the way..
 

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I know I already made my "last comment" but...

I placed an offer for Mayweather -210 at matchbook. And someone accepted! INSANITY! Like you gardenweasel I wonder if there's something insiders know that we dont. How else to justify -210? I was tempted to offer -207 and see if someone takes it, but it's time to stop. These kinds of lines create gambling addicts. lol

edit - if rumors circulate that the result of this fight has a contractual bearing on a DLH/Hatton UK match, or even a Hatton/Mayweather UK rematch, I will puke. Ideally Cotto and Mayweather camps officially agree to fight, on the condition Mayweather wins.

btw weepaul thanks for the tip on Stan James, though im new and a small bettor, only using the highest rated canadian/US books
 
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I know I already made my "last comment" but...

I placed an offer for Mayweather -210 at matchbook. And someone accepted! INSANITY! Like you gardenweasel I wonder if there's something insiders know that we dont. How else to justify -210? I was tempted to offer -207 and see if someone takes it, but it's time to stop. These kinds of lines create gambling addicts. lol

edit - if rumors circulate that the result of this fight has a contractual bearing on a DLH/Hatton UK match, or even a Hatton/Mayweather UK rematch, I will puke. Ideally Cotto and Mayweather camps officially agree to fight, on the condition Mayweather wins.

btw weepaul thanks for the tip on Stan James, though im new and a small bettor, only using the highest rated canadian/US books

No problem Brother.

My books are Pinnacle, 5dimes, the Greek, Betcris and stan james.

I have found Stan James to be just as good as the others and Mayweather is now at -188 with them.

I like Stan James when British fighters are involved as Brits tend to bet with their hearts and love a good loser (Frank Bruno).
You can end up getting really good odds on their opponents.

Just something to keep in mind.
 

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No problem Brother.

My books are Pinnacle, 5dimes, the Greek, Betcris and stan james.

I have found Stan James to be just as good as the others and Mayweather is now at -188 with them.

I like Stan James when British fighters are involved as Brits tend to bet with their hearts and love a good loser (Frank Bruno).
You can end up getting really good odds on their opponents.

Just something to keep in mind.

all fine books, i only use 5d for parlays though. MB and Pinn mostly otherwise.

i signed up to stan james, i cant beleive how much there lines are different from everyone else, and not just on this fight. mayweather is ?175, humorously M on pts is ?163. who?s going to take that?

does James ever have inside the distance props? I still have a small MKO bet to place, im surprised they dont have the option.

thanks again. James isnt mentioned much on sports book review.com which is what Ive been going by, but the few comments are positive.
 
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I have 200 on Hatton to win inside the distance at plus 612 on 5dimes----- so 200 pays 1224......... I havent forund a better line than that anywhere for a hatton KO........ has anyone seen anything better for hatton to win by KO... Does anyone have any idea what the current vegas lines are in the sportsbook?
 

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all fine books, i only use 5d for parlays though. MB and Pinn mostly otherwise.

i signed up to stan james, i cant beleive how much there lines are different from everyone else, and not just on this fight. mayweather is ?175, humorously M on pts is ?163. who?s going to take that?

does James ever have inside the distance props? I still have a small MKO bet to place, im surprised they dont have the option.

thanks again. James isnt mentioned much on sports book review.com which is what Ive been going by, but the few comments are positive.

Funnily enough, they don't do over/under props but they always do round props.
 

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Hatton and Hoya are apparently in advanced talks for May5 at Wembley. One report said win or lose Dec8, another said win only.

The lines for Mayweather are dropping rapidly. Pinnacle now has -204.

Not good.
 

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Hatton and Hoya are apparently in advanced talks for May5 at Wembley. One report said win or lose Dec8, another said win only.

The lines for Mayweather are dropping rapidly. Pinnacle now has -204.

Not good.

This kind of stuff really worries me. First Cortez gets to ref now talk like this? Doesn't Mayweather have a rematch clause in his contract or is he so confident that he wins? Honestly im tired of watching Delahoya. I never saw a guy who can draw a crowd who loses as much as him. Who has he beat lately? Mayorga? I guaranteee Roth, Moretti, and Ford that at least two of them will be doing the fight. Starting to wonder if its even worth the risk to bet this now. After the D hopkins decison and the other farce recently this is getting a bit edegy.
 

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Hatton and Hoya are apparently in advanced talks for May5 at Wembley. One report said win or lose Dec8, another said win only.

The lines for Mayweather are dropping rapidly. Pinnacle now has -204.

Not good.

Come on Fellas, you must have known the lines would drop drastically on the week of the fight due to the Brits getting drunk and betting with their hearts.

The odds will drop again by Saturday.
THIS IS A GOOD THING!!

Try not to second guess yourselfs as human nature dictates.

Your money is already in the bank. You will be breathing a big sigh of relief after the first round as Floyd starts cutting Hatton to pieces and everyone finally sees the difference in skill level.
 

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Come on Fellas, you must have known the lines would drop drastically on the week of the fight due to the Brits getting drunk and betting with their hearts.

The odds will drop again by Saturday.
THIS IS A GOOD THING!!

Try not to second guess yourselfs as human nature dictates.

Your money is already in the bank. You will be breathing a big sigh of relief after the first round as Floyd starts cutting Hatton to pieces and everyone finally sees the difference in skill level.

Weepaul a lot of Americans will bet Hatton also. They love to bet against a guy they hope has his mouth shut. Already heard it from a few of my friends. My problem is that Floyd isn't a ref or a judge. I hope he doesn't have to knock him out to win. This is one that im not to confident going to the judges. I still think he stops him because Hattons corner throws in the towel and boy i hope im right. This goes to a decision I will be shitting my pants no matter how dominate Floyd looks.
 

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Weepaul a lot of Americans will bet Hatton also. They love to bet against a guy they hope has his mouth shut. Already heard it from a few of my friends. My problem is that Floyd isn't a ref or a judge. I hope he doesn't have to knock him out to win. This is one that im not to confident going to the judges. I still think he stops him because Hattons corner throws in the towel and boy i hope im right. This goes to a decision I will be shitting my pants no matter how dominate Floyd looks.


My biggest concern is Hatton possibly making the rds close. I'm hoping Floyd is utterly dominate but IF Hatton can make it remotely competitive I can see the judges handing it to him. Floyd on his bike will not impress anybody. He needs to fight. Not that he needs to slug it out but he'll need to plant and get Hattons attention. I hope to see Floyd dig the body shots in the early going. If Hatton is forced to box, the fight is over.

Weepaul, I'm getting the impression that you're betting half the farm on this. Best of luck to you.
 

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should have been hatton vs cotto with the winner fighting mayweather,imo...

i basically agree with the majority sentiment here....

hatton`s all class...and he has a major league set of coulumes coming to america and giving up his home court advantage when he really didn`t have to...

mucho respect for ricky...he`s a man...

that said,if he beats mayweather...after struggling mightily with another legit welter "boxer"(collazo),i,like night janitor,i will be stunned....

ricky`s had 1 fight at welter...and it didn`t go all that well...i thought slick collazo actually won...and that ricky`s stamina was poor....he really petered out late...

now,he jumps 7 pounds again to fight a taller master boxer..."the" master boxer... who`s just finished out-pointing a huge(compared to hatton) oscar dlh.....

no manchester....it`s in vegas...

i guess he could pull a castilo and try and bull floyd into the ropes and rough him up...but,i think floyd will be the naturally bigger guy here..with a height advantage...

what really scares me is that these odds have actually dropped a bit...and no one in my circle,or the sites i frequent,like anything other than mayweather here...

....the books could really make a killing if hatton pulls it off( i remember a fight awhile back in which everybody had the under...lol)...and floyd isn`t exactly beloved...

those vegas judges....whew.....and this has a real good chance of getting to the cards...

this scares me a bit because it reminds me of the nfl......early in the season,the bettor starts out holding his own only to inevitably take it on the chin as the lines sharpen later in the season...

a hatton victory would surely be a fine christmas present for the books...

btw,sponge....i couldn`t move a line with a forklift....i`m small potatoes all the way..

You are incorrect about who the books will want to win this fight.
 

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lol i hope youre right weepaul, if there was no money involved i wouldnt think twice.

i just read an article saying cotto is going to be present, and he plans to call out the winner. i wanted to hear that.

i took another small ko prop at stan james +450, im waiting for straight to fall back to -175.

there were threads on other forums complaining about cortez, but for the opposite reason: they thought he was going to job hatton. lol. im not very concerned about him.
 

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You are incorrect about who the books will want to win this fight.

Somebody explain how this works? How does the book make a killing on a fight like this? The books apparently started the lines a bit too high on Mayweather- all the Hatton Bettors seem to be coming in late. I would think the book would need to be balanced pretty well. Do sharp books hedge if they really like one fighter? Obviously the way to bet this fight was Hatton backers a month ago, and Mayweather backers now. I think too many bettors get caught up in the big fights which often don't have value. I'll take the Rolando Reyes vs. Stevie Johnson fights any day over these types where poliitics and money play a big role.
 

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My biggest concern is Hatton possibly making the rds close. I'm hoping Floyd is utterly dominate but IF Hatton can make it remotely competitive I can see the judges handing it to him. Floyd on his bike will not impress anybody. He needs to fight. Not that he needs to slug it out but he'll need to plant and get Hattons attention. I hope to see Floyd dig the body shots in the early going. If Hatton is forced to box, the fight is over.

Weepaul, I'm getting the impression that you're betting half the farm on this. Best of luck to you.

Hi Romi,

You know how big some of my bets have been in the past and I can tell you that this is the biggest wager I have ever put down.

I honestly think that PBF is going to prove a point in this fight. He will stay in the pocket and hammer Hatton with 5 punches as Hatton try's to land 1. I think Hatton will have the same stunned look as Corrales and Gatti did when Floyd decided to set down on his punches.
It was a look that said "What the ****, I thought he was feather fisted".

24/7 has done a great job. They have managed to convince some viewers that Hatton is a beast who is 50/50 with Floyd.

I think of the nifty counter from Mcgee that decked him in the first. Mcgee also wobbled him pretty badly in the second and he is by no means a big puncher.

Thaxton cut him to pieces at British level.

Urango hurt Hatton to the body and BULLIED the Bully forcing him to box. If plan A is not working, is he going to outbox Floyd :mj07: .

Collazo had him wobbling all over the place and he is not a big puncher.

Even Castillo, who is as slow as the statue of David these day's, caught Hatton a few times.

This fight is Sugar Ray vs Davey Boy Green, Hagler vs Mintor/Sibson, and Curry vs Colin Jones all over again.

Hatton is going to start bleeding during the refs instructions for this fight.

I really like Hatton but Floyd is in a different league and no TV showing Floyd hurt and injured is going to sway me.
 

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Somebody explain how this works? How does the book make a killing on a fight like this? The books apparently started the lines a bit too high on Mayweather- all the Hatton Bettors seem to be coming in late. I would think the book would need to be balanced pretty well. Do sharp books hedge if they really like one fighter? Obviously the way to bet this fight was Hatton backers a month ago, and Mayweather backers now. I think too many bettors get caught up in the big fights which often don't have value. I'll take the Rolando Reyes vs. Stevie Johnson fights any day over these types where poliitics and money play a big role.


Some books lay off I guess. A lot of money comes in on betting events late though. I know currently, Hatton has been bet a lot more than Floyd has been though. That's online anyways. I imagine Vegas will end up the same with all the Brits coming into town.

BTW- Agreed on some smaller fights. That's often times where the real money can be made.
 

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This is my last comment: if Hatton and Mayweather were the same skin color, from the same region, and both kept their mouths shut, the lines would be ?375 or -400 Mayweather. And I?d still take it.

Take away all the trash talk, TV shows, bias and prejudice, and you have a mismatch. I am betting over 50% of my roll on this with no hedge, if Im wrong Im done with betting for at least a year and will not offer any boxing analysis. The only chance Hatton has, and I mean this, is if Mayweather coasts to purposely create a close decision and a rematch in the UK. I?m not convinced this behaviour is beneath him.


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Watched a lot of Hatton videos last night. Conclusion. Unless Mayweather hasn't been training, (Dancing with the stars?) then he should win fairly easily. I see it being close for the first 6, then as Hatton tires and his defence goes to pot, Floyd landing right after right on him.

I am however only betting medium on Mayweather. Hatton throws a lot of punches with intent, and you never know, one of them might land. He will also be in Mayweather's chest all evening, the judges might like that. Mayweather may hurt a hand, it's possible.

I just dont feel supremely confident about it. For all we know Hatton might come in absolutely freaky fit, and be able to carry his pace 12.

conan
 

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Watched a lot of Hatton videos last night. Conclusion. Unless Mayweather hasn't been training, (Dancing with the stars?) then he should win fairly easily. I see it being close for the first 6, then as Hatton tires and his defence goes to pot, Floyd landing right after right on him.

I am however only betting medium on Mayweather. Hatton throws a lot of punches with intent, and you never know, one of them might land. He will also be in Mayweather's chest all evening, the judges might like that. Mayweather may hurt a hand, it's possible.

I just dont feel supremely confident about it. For all we know Hatton might come in absolutely freaky fit, and be able to carry his pace 12.

conan

You must have been bored to tears but then again Mayweather last few fights were not anything i would want to save to watch another time. Could this possible be an entertaining fight? I think Hatton falls at least five times tripping when Mayweather steps to the side.
 
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