So, I head on over to the Hard Rock where this fight is being held to check betting lines. So I ask the ticket writer/sports book manager about any lines for the fight this week end they are hosting. So what do they say? Well, they said DUH? Fight? Oh, we haven't heard anything! I take back everything I said about 5Dimes. They have the balls to post lines and are aware of what fights are scheduled. It is truly exasperating dealing with these numb nuts.
Boxing; 09/13/2011; Mares-Agbeko; Las Vegas
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focking idiots :facepalm:
meet me at the will call window on saturday
:0074
what time is good for you?
i think i might leave friday night and nap for a bit saturday morning, i prefer to drive at night
meet me at the will call window on saturday
:0074
what time is good for you?
i think i might leave friday night and nap for a bit saturday morning, i prefer to drive at night
Just look for a guy with a shaved head that looks like he just escaped from an psycho ward and that would be me!
Yea. I think so. Believe me, there is no mistaking it. As there are about 10 left in existence, I only wear it on special occasions!
This weeks write up from Vegas Runner.
This weeks write up from Vegas Runner.
Most agree WBO/WBA title holder Nonito Donaire (26-1, 18 KO?s) is the top bantamweight and also one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world.
But this Saturday night the next best at 118 lbs. will meet in the finale of Showtime?s four man single-elimination tournament. After losing his IBF title to Yonnhy Perez in 2009, Joseph Agbeko (28-2, 22 KO?s) recaptured it in their rematch just 13 months later.
They met in the first round of this bantamweight tournament and now Agbeko puts his title on the line against Abner Mares (21-0, 13 KO?s) who defeated Vic Darchinyan to advance to the final.
The tournament final was originally set back in April but after landing in Los Angeles and exiting baggage claim, Agbeko collapsed face down on the pavement as he made his way to a waiting car. Agbeko was diagnosed with sciatica, a painful condition that results in numbness of the legs.
A spokesman for Agbeko?s promoter Don King claimed the boxer ran several miles that morning and then had his plane delayed three times before finally making the five hour trip. Doctors believe that may have been the cause so the fight was postponed and moved from Mare?s backyard in LA, to Las Vegas and the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino.
Agbeko, the current IBF bantamweight champion with a 4-1 record in world title fights, is a surprising underdog to Mares. Oddsmakers list Mares a -180 favorite.
Since splitting with Hall of Fame trainer Ignacio "Nacho" Beristain to join forces with Golden Boy Promotions, Mares has been on the brink of becoming a star and the betting line definitely reflects that perception. Oddsmakers expect this fight to go to a decision, having made the OVER a -400 favorite at 9? rounds.
Mares, 25, had a distinguished amateur career and has already fought 145 rounds as a pro. He has a high work rate and is an extremely precise boxer who has also shown the ability to fight inside. The only problem seems to be a slow start and a lack of fight ending power against top-level competition.
Mares was unable to win the IBF title the first time around after fighting to a draw against Yonnhy Perez. Then against Darchinyan he was cut early and dropped, but came from behind to win a split decision.
At 31, Agbeko is actually considered to be in his prime. He may have been in nine more pro fights than his opponent, but has only had to endure 17 extra rounds. Agbeko is a slugger with very heavy hands, having gone the distance only eight times in 30 fights.
For a brawler, he?s able to work behind a strong jab and uses a lot of movement to throw his opponents off. His only weakness seems to be defense, but he?s busy enough to give more than receive.
The bottom line is that in the end, it will most likely fall in the hands of the judges and that is my only concern. The betting value is definitely on Agbeko at such generous odds but there?s more upside in a Mares win for boxing since he has the bigger "name recognition" among casual fans.
We?ve seen the power promoters carry in the past, none more than Golden Boy of late. That is the ONLY reason I haven?t yet been able to make Agbeko the premium play. With that said, the only way I can look in this matchup is to "King Kong." So my advice is to either bet the dog or leave the fight alone.
I will be holding a betting slip on Agbeko at +150 or better. Drop by and say hello to me at the fight. It?s nice to have a great night of boxing at the Hard Rock again.
VR?s fight record: 29-9 (at Pregame.com)
This weeks write up from Vegas Runner.
Most agree WBO/WBA title holder Nonito Donaire (26-1, 18 KO?s) is the top bantamweight and also one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world.
But this Saturday night the next best at 118 lbs. will meet in the finale of Showtime?s four man single-elimination tournament. After losing his IBF title to Yonnhy Perez in 2009, Joseph Agbeko (28-2, 22 KO?s) recaptured it in their rematch just 13 months later.
They met in the first round of this bantamweight tournament and now Agbeko puts his title on the line against Abner Mares (21-0, 13 KO?s) who defeated Vic Darchinyan to advance to the final.
The tournament final was originally set back in April but after landing in Los Angeles and exiting baggage claim, Agbeko collapsed face down on the pavement as he made his way to a waiting car. Agbeko was diagnosed with sciatica, a painful condition that results in numbness of the legs.
A spokesman for Agbeko?s promoter Don King claimed the boxer ran several miles that morning and then had his plane delayed three times before finally making the five hour trip. Doctors believe that may have been the cause so the fight was postponed and moved from Mare?s backyard in LA, to Las Vegas and the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino.
Agbeko, the current IBF bantamweight champion with a 4-1 record in world title fights, is a surprising underdog to Mares. Oddsmakers list Mares a -180 favorite.
Since splitting with Hall of Fame trainer Ignacio "Nacho" Beristain to join forces with Golden Boy Promotions, Mares has been on the brink of becoming a star and the betting line definitely reflects that perception. Oddsmakers expect this fight to go to a decision, having made the OVER a -400 favorite at 9? rounds.
Mares, 25, had a distinguished amateur career and has already fought 145 rounds as a pro. He has a high work rate and is an extremely precise boxer who has also shown the ability to fight inside. The only problem seems to be a slow start and a lack of fight ending power against top-level competition.
Mares was unable to win the IBF title the first time around after fighting to a draw against Yonnhy Perez. Then against Darchinyan he was cut early and dropped, but came from behind to win a split decision.
At 31, Agbeko is actually considered to be in his prime. He may have been in nine more pro fights than his opponent, but has only had to endure 17 extra rounds. Agbeko is a slugger with very heavy hands, having gone the distance only eight times in 30 fights.
For a brawler, he?s able to work behind a strong jab and uses a lot of movement to throw his opponents off. His only weakness seems to be defense, but he?s busy enough to give more than receive.
The bottom line is that in the end, it will most likely fall in the hands of the judges and that is my only concern. The betting value is definitely on Agbeko at such generous odds but there?s more upside in a Mares win for boxing since he has the bigger "name recognition" among casual fans.
We?ve seen the power promoters carry in the past, none more than Golden Boy of late. That is the ONLY reason I haven?t yet been able to make Agbeko the premium play. With that said, the only way I can look in this matchup is to "King Kong." So my advice is to either bet the dog or leave the fight alone.
I will be holding a betting slip on Agbeko at +150 or better. Drop by and say hello to me at the fight. It?s nice to have a great night of boxing at the Hard Rock again.
VR?s fight record: 29-9 (at Pregame.com)
i saw mares at nacho's gym in mexico city when i went and visited
chatted a bit
no way can i bet agbeko, it's ABNER TIME, he's way more dimensional and complete fighter
his combinations are a thing of beauty and he will know when to brawl when the time is right
chatted a bit
no way can i bet agbeko, it's ABNER TIME, he's way more dimensional and complete fighter
his combinations are a thing of beauty and he will know when to brawl when the time is right
Yea, I have Mares in some parlays. Hope you are right. Also, the sciatica issue with Agbeko is no joke. I have the same condition, and it doesn't just go away. Move/twist the wrong way, and it could manifest itself in a bad way.
my new book heritage has -190
i'll eat the chalk and lay the max risk of $500
knowing i will get paid fast, if i win
:0074
i'll eat the chalk and lay the max risk of $500
knowing i will get paid fast, if i win
:0074
yeah i got five dimes
but all my dough is tied up in plays :mj07:
and i don't want to deposit any at this time
tijuana has o/u 11.5 at +260
:shrug:
but all my dough is tied up in plays :mj07:
and i don't want to deposit any at this time
tijuana has o/u 11.5 at +260
:shrug:
I see both of these guys hanging around. Lets face it; an African and a Mexican. Tough as nails, both.
I got Mares an I also like the fight to go over 8 and9 rounds!
BTW, do you know, who promotes this fight or is this a co-promotion!?
I believe Mares has more upside and Golden Boy will have a distinctive interest in him, so he will get the close rounds!!
BTW, do you know, who promotes this fight or is this a co-promotion!?
I believe Mares has more upside and Golden Boy will have a distinctive interest in him, so he will get the close rounds!!
golden boy!
agbeko is with don king
on paper the fight should go the distance.... but you never know
cant hurt to sprinkle the under
agbeko is with don king
on paper the fight should go the distance.... but you never know
cant hurt to sprinkle the under
So Golden Boy is promoting this card alone!?
This could be crucial!!
I agree with you that Mares is coming into his prime and that sciatica could be an issue!
But IMO it takes something like a headbutt or an injury (sciatica?) for this fight not to go the distance...the line is good though....
This could be crucial!!
I agree with you that Mares is coming into his prime and that sciatica could be an issue!
But IMO it takes something like a headbutt or an injury (sciatica?) for this fight not to go the distance...the line is good though....
I've been watching replays of Mares' fights on Showtime. He was cut more than once, but he kept his poise and fought on bravely. He has a lot of heart and is still a work in progress. The only reason I see for the line being what it is, is because of Agbeko's very unusual injury back in April. Sciatica is nerve damage/pressure caused by bulging/herniated discs or even a dislocated vertebra or spinal stenosis. Maybe it was just a fluke. Who knows? But I would not be shocked to see Mares cut once again.
i cant call ko's worth shit most of the time
but it cant hurt to put a couple benjamins down on the under if you got loose pockets like i do at this time
but it cant hurt to put a couple benjamins down on the under if you got loose pockets like i do at this time
frank i read fights at hard rock moved to 3:30pm
due to some fights falling out
let's meet at 3:30 then
due to some fights falling out
let's meet at 3:30 then
