A note regarding Soto. Only rarely does a line move here (Vegas) towards the dog. Usually they bet the chalk up. Not always, but mostly. The $ is coming in on Soto. Line has dropped 20cents at one local book. A guy I used to know from back east use to say the best bet in sports is an underdog that has a good shot at winning the game(fight, etc.). Bada-bing; should be a nice fight.
Boxing 11/15-11/17
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talk about oddball lines.....5 dimes has abell at -150.....
and abell inside the distance at -140?........
who`s gonna hamstring themselves and take that -140?........lol
abell/okue props...but,no soto/guzman props?.....:shrug:
and abell inside the distance at -140?........
who`s gonna hamstring themselves and take that -140?........lol
abell/okue props...but,no soto/guzman props?.....:shrug:
That Guzman inside started above +140 and came down quick ... people are aware Guzman hasn't scored a KO since 122 a few years ago and Soto can take a shot. That right hook from BPaq that he didn't see as he was going in for the kill would have floored 9 out of 10 opponents. I found it strange that people kind of criticized or gave Soto no credit. That was the best BPaq you'll ever see and Soto just readjusted and left him for dead in the corner in the 7th.
personally,i don`t think that barrios has comparable fire power to soto.....he may be a bit more awkward...and throw more punches....
but,soto throws punches with very bad intentions....and he throws them correctly.....he`s explosive whereas barrios is just determined...you can see where a barrios is more suitable for guzman`s style...less height...less worry about getting caught with one fight changing punch or combination....
guzman will have to be on his game...cause he`s smaller....and hasn`t shown the penchant for stopping guys as he`s stepping up in weight....
what worries me about soto is that i`ve seen him kind of go into lulls in a few fights...he picks his spots...sometimes a little too much...
i hope he realizes that he`s gonna have to pressure guzman and make him fight....
i think soto,barring multiple knockdowns,will be hard pressed to decision guzman....i just have trouble with that scenario....he decisioned rocky juarez?...sure...but,juarez is another guy that gets outworked....goes into those lulls....
will soto get schooled by the experienced master technician?....
thats fine.....i just hope that soto doesn`t hurt guzman early and guzman ends up fighting an overly cautious,defensive "just do enough to eek out a points win" kinda fight...
thats the worst case scenario....
i`m very anxious to see this one...
but,soto throws punches with very bad intentions....and he throws them correctly.....he`s explosive whereas barrios is just determined...you can see where a barrios is more suitable for guzman`s style...less height...less worry about getting caught with one fight changing punch or combination....
guzman will have to be on his game...cause he`s smaller....and hasn`t shown the penchant for stopping guys as he`s stepping up in weight....
what worries me about soto is that i`ve seen him kind of go into lulls in a few fights...he picks his spots...sometimes a little too much...
i hope he realizes that he`s gonna have to pressure guzman and make him fight....
i think soto,barring multiple knockdowns,will be hard pressed to decision guzman....i just have trouble with that scenario....he decisioned rocky juarez?...sure...but,juarez is another guy that gets outworked....goes into those lulls....
will soto get schooled by the experienced master technician?....
thats fine.....i just hope that soto doesn`t hurt guzman early and guzman ends up fighting an overly cautious,defensive "just do enough to eek out a points win" kinda fight...
thats the worst case scenario....
i`m very anxious to see this one...
tony...this teke dude has no clue what to do with a lefty that moves to his own right.....
as long as abell keeps moving right,teke`s lost.....
he has no idea how to slide and cut off the ring.....but,thats good......lol:142smilie
wow....
as long as abell keeps moving right,teke`s lost.....
he has no idea how to slide and cut off the ring.....but,thats good......lol:142smilie
wow....
abell sucks...but that fight wasn`t close,imo......
farhood`s full of crap....i`d like to see the punchstat on teke......all abell did was take a step right,and teke had to reset ....i don`t think i`ve ever seen a guy throw fewer punches....
hard to believe that guy sparred with big names.....he`s terrible...
as we saw,abell`s k.o. mark was the product of the soft opposition and the ham `n egger midwest circuit.....
most importantly,though,it`s a winner!......
good job,bud.........
farhood`s full of crap....i`d like to see the punchstat on teke......all abell did was take a step right,and teke had to reset ....i don`t think i`ve ever seen a guy throw fewer punches....
hard to believe that guy sparred with big names.....he`s terrible...
as we saw,abell`s k.o. mark was the product of the soft opposition and the ham `n egger midwest circuit.....
most importantly,though,it`s a winner!......
good job,bud.........
yeah 1.38 is -290 not -190. My silly maths mistake.
Added another small bet on Hawkins via pts. Just hedging a bit, I hate Virchis at the moment and he came in at the top end of his weight and Hawkins came in ok.
Took a micro bet on Hoffman vs Dimen as a draw and a small bet on the over (both appear to be in shape) I'll be watching it, so i gotta have something to cheer for.
Thanks for the Abell tips. I look forward to backing his opponent when he steps up.
conan
Added another small bet on Hawkins via pts. Just hedging a bit, I hate Virchis at the moment and he came in at the top end of his weight and Hawkins came in ok.
Took a micro bet on Hoffman vs Dimen as a draw and a small bet on the over (both appear to be in shape) I'll be watching it, so i gotta have something to cheer for.
Thanks for the Abell tips. I look forward to backing his opponent when he steps up.
conan
Barros at +700
Barros at +700
Drozd seems a bit flawed to me and could get caught. 45/315 for me
Barros at +700
Drozd seems a bit flawed to me and could get caught. 45/315 for me
here are my plays
virchis hawkins over at 200.
hawkins at 770 dog play (very small)
Dimitrenko inside at + 240. I have a funny feeling about that one, instinct play not based on reason.
soto inside at 450 and soto straight. Guzman is at the end of nice parlay so i break even if he wins.
virchis hawkins over at 200.
hawkins at 770 dog play (very small)
Dimitrenko inside at + 240. I have a funny feeling about that one, instinct play not based on reason.
soto inside at 450 and soto straight. Guzman is at the end of nice parlay so i break even if he wins.
F*ck!!! I hate Virchis. Did I say that before? He's turning out to be the new John Ruiz for me. I just cant pick fights with him.
round 1 hoffmann pressuring, diment getting nowhere with hoffmanns guard. round for hoff. close enough to give it either way.
H 10-9 D
H 10-9 D
round 2
dimentrenko dancing but not hitting. hoffmann getting off first, nothing landing. dimentrenko has got a nice uppercut going, that might win it for him. hoffmann lands two rights. hoffmannn in trouble. hoffmann counters with an upercut. nice body attack from diment. big right from dimentr.
round for D. hoffmann hurt with body shots.
H 19 19 D
dimentrenko dancing but not hitting. hoffmann getting off first, nothing landing. dimentrenko has got a nice uppercut going, that might win it for him. hoffmann lands two rights. hoffmannn in trouble. hoffmann counters with an upercut. nice body attack from diment. big right from dimentr.
round for D. hoffmann hurt with body shots.
H 19 19 D
Round 3
They start off swinging big. Nice left from d. Hoffmann lands a right. another nice jab from D. Another right from H. Hoffmann is hurt in the body though. Every time D lands he clinches.
Very close round for D.
D 29 28 H
They start off swinging big. Nice left from d. Hoffmann lands a right. another nice jab from D. Another right from H. Hoffmann is hurt in the body though. Every time D lands he clinches.
Very close round for D.
D 29 28 H
Round 4
hoffmann looking sloppy. D quick hands. D lands. D going for kill. H is down. A storm of pnches. Both going for it now. H using offence as defence. Body shot and H is down. 30secs left and D pushes H to canvas. H still attacking. Great fight!!!!!!!!
10-7 round for D
D 39 35 H.
hoffmann looking sloppy. D quick hands. D lands. D going for kill. H is down. A storm of pnches. Both going for it now. H using offence as defence. Body shot and H is down. 30secs left and D pushes H to canvas. H still attacking. Great fight!!!!!!!!
10-7 round for D
D 39 35 H.
Round 5
they showed the replay of round 4 and D hit H on his ****ing knee!! That was a low punch.
H lands a right. crowd cheers. D backing off. D not liking this. Another right and D looks a bit sloppy. D looks tired. D holding. D powered out after last round maybe. D down a huge KO punche !!!!!
D in trouble. H has nothing left. D holding. Huge left hook from D.
Great round for Hoffmann
10-8 for Hoffmann
D 47 45 H
Crowd going insane "Timo Timo"
they showed the replay of round 4 and D hit H on his ****ing knee!! That was a low punch.
H lands a right. crowd cheers. D backing off. D not liking this. Another right and D looks a bit sloppy. D looks tired. D holding. D powered out after last round maybe. D down a huge KO punche !!!!!
D in trouble. H has nothing left. D holding. Huge left hook from D.
Great round for Hoffmann
10-8 for Hoffmann
D 47 45 H
Crowd going insane "Timo Timo"
