Boxing 11/9 - 11/13

[gardenweasel]

i can see cotto winning the decision...to much one punch and clinch from shane....

i really think a 30 year old mosely might have had enough to beat cotto,,,,

cotto seemed to tire late himself.....but,his boxing surprised me...his jab was much better than shane`s....

i really get irked when these refs stop fights for mouthpieces or water when one guy seems to have a real advantage or has the other guy hurt....

it always seems to happen during a crucial moment......

and that sucks....i`ll never understand it....bad judgement...wait for a lull in the action....

congrats to cotto bettors....it was a compelling fight...

 

[Romi]

i can see cotto winning the decision...to much one punch and clinch from shane....

i really think a 30 year old mosely might have had enough to beat cotto,,,,

cotto seemed to tire late himself.....but,his boxing surprised me...his jab was much better than shane`s....

i really get irked when these refs stop fights for mouthpieces or water when one guy seems to have a real advantage or has the other guy hurt....
it always seems to happen during a crucial moment......

and that sucks....i`ll never understand it....bad judgement...wait for a lull in the action....

congrats to cotto bettors....it was a compelling fight...

That was a bullsht break in the action. Shane was turning the tide in the fight and the idiot ref gave cotto at least 30 secs to recover from being stunned. Horrendous and inexcusable decision to do that. that being said, I had cotto by 3 rds in the fight. Despite what alot of people are saying Shane can't improve on that performance at his age. It was an excellent fight but I hope shane calls it a day.

I went 0-3....ummm, errrrrr 1-2 on the week and made a little over 1k profit, thanks to the blatantly corrupt Casa dec. That would have been my worst week of the yr had Santa been given the deserved dec.

Cod-L/med lrge
Casa-W/LARGE
Moseley inside-L/small/

 

[tonymontana]

great fight but not a good ending money wise since i really load up on the ko options.
And after the first 3 rounds i thought somebody goes for sure.

I won some on Cotto straight though.

Does anybody know if there is a line for diaz vs Noons (or similar)
I believe Noons wins Diaz is doing to much endurance training and lost all his explosivness in his last fight he got a very close dec.
But i see no line anywhere

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Who the fvck is Noons?

lol

 

[tonymontana]

now kimbo is coming against bo condrell

 

[Romi]

great fight but not a good ending money wise since i really load up on the ko options.
And after the first 3 rounds i thought somebody goes for sure.

I won some on Cotto straight though.

Does anybody know if there is a line for diaz vs Noons (or similar)
I believe Noons wins Diaz is doing to much endurance training and lost all his explosivness in his last fight he got a very close dec.But i see no line anywhere

Had no idea what you were talking about but I caught the last 2 fights on showtime mma tonight. Noons really jacked up diaz' face. There were about 4 very nasty cuts...both eyes, one over and under and his nose. I understand the gamesmanship but what a classless ahole for storming out like that on the part of diaz. Doctor stops fight due to multiple cuts after 1. Good call Tony.

 

[conanthecribber]

Thanks- yea I took just enough on the over to break even while getting a shot at the dog.


I see some cappers grabbed the the Reid over. I know Reid has had a chin but what's he got left in terms of desire after stating this is his last fight. Froch should start catching him no later than the 6th. I'll take Froch inside at -167. Should I take the over and hope to hit both with a 9-12 round KO? Nah- I'm concerned about Reid's ambition.

I want to jump on Rosales, but that swarming pain in the ass Lorenzo has me hesitating. I watched his most recent fight against Cardenas and he still had pretty good energy. Love the over. Probably take a crack with Rosales at least in a parlay. Watched him dominate Licona who had little to offer though.

That was a very useful piece of information about Reid, that unfortunately I got after placing the bet. I should've backed out, lucky it was only a medium bet. I generally dont even bet medium bets when a fighter has been brutally KO'd in their last fight. I should've stuck to my own rules. I guess I was a pissed at the odds on Froch and wanted to find a bet onthe fight. Discipline, its the heart of being a good bettor.

A bad week overall. Mosely proves that he is no longer a big puncher. Cotto gets a narrow UD, one round more to shane and it was a MD (I was on the draw). it could've been a lot worse with Casa apparantly getting a GoldenBoy decision.

@Romi, Marks from boxingranks would be an excellent addition to the site, he was absolutely dominating the betting game that I was running.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

I'm not all that impressed with Froch. I saw his fight with Porras, he looked sloppy and very easy to hit. Of course he was fighting Porras who had little to offer in return, so maybe he was leaving that left hand down by his waist while taking unnecessary shots. In Tony's post he said Reid hit Froch with a few big over hand rights in the 2nd round...doesn't surprise me at all. Froch will lose if and when he takes a step up in competition, and trust me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Btw, I watched the Reid-Lacy fight and every punch that Lacy landed was to the back of the head. Reid and his team complained about the fouls several times but the ref wouldn't listen. After a few more haymakers to the back of the head...Reid quit and rightfully so.

Froch throws straight punches, so I wasn't worried about Reid's chin, and I don't think it was his chin that failed him here. However, punch was right about Reid's lack of ambition, which explains why he quit on his stool



I lost a little on the Froch Over and Mosley, but made a nice profit due to Haye and Ortiz which was one of my biggest bets of the year. Also set up 2 nice parlays with Mayweather as the kicker

Great week

gl bl

 

[punchmaster]

I lost a little on the Froch Over and Mosley, but made a nice profit due to Haye and Ortiz which was one of my biggest bets of the year. Also set up 2 nice parlays with Mayweather as the kicker

Great week

gl bl

I disagree with you BL- you didn't have a great week . You gained that unit with Ortiz, but then you gave back .30 on Froch , .30 on Mosley,
.15 on Cotto won't go distance, and then .10 on lottery Reid. That leaves .15 and then the .50 on the nice Haye play. Hatton has more of a chance of ruining the nice parlay you put together than you think. Congrats on a GOOD week. I just don't want our leader in denial or kidding himself because we need you so much. :mj07: :142smilie :moon: moon1


:00x12 Just messing BL. Do you hate me even more now? This forum is very beneficial. We all got lucky on Casa and should count our blessings.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Since you wasted your time trying to make me look bad, I guess I'll waste my time cleaning up your mess...

First of all my profits for the week were +0.65 units, which is a great week using my small scale. My goal is to win a half unit per week, and I exceeded that mark...therefore a great week

There are also several factors you aren't aware of and therefore didn't consider before bashing me...

1a) While I never recommend a wager bigger than I play it personaly, sometimes I will load up on something personaly but only recommend it as an average play here. My posting strategy here is very conservative and based on money management since I'm trying to help others make money. The guys who follow my plays may not be up a substancial amount like I am and therefore they aren't playing with the books money, making it much more risky for them to load up on one single play

1b) Some of the guys here know exactly how much I put on Ortiz and if you compare that to the Units=$$$ ratio I provided a few months ago, you'll find that my personal play on Ortiz was well above a 2 unit play...I only recommended a 1 unit play here for money management purposes

2) I have a few investors that I recommend my big plays to, when they win I keep a nice percentage of their profits. This week they won very big on Ortiz...and so did I


Great week

gl bl

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Btw, right now I'm laying .60 to win .75 on Mayweather, if I don't add anymore parlays I will be playing this before the fight...

Hatton by decision +400...Lay .20 to win .80

Win .55 on Mayweather or .20 on Hatton (who has no chance of stopping Floyd)

gl bl

 

[punchmaster]

Since you wasted your time trying to make me look bad, I guess I'll waste my time cleaning up your mess...

First of all my profits for the week were +0.65 units, which is a great week using my small scale. My goal is to win a half unit per week, and I exceeded that mark...therefore a great week

There are also several factors you aren't aware of and therefore didn't consider before bashing me...

1a) While I never recommend a wager bigger than I play it personaly, sometimes I will load up on something personaly but only recommend it as an average play here. My posting strategy here is very conservative and based on money management since I'm trying to help others make money. The guys who follow my plays may not be up a substancial amount like I am and therefore they aren't playing with the books money, making it much more risky for them to load up on one single play

1b) Some of the guys here know exactly how much I put on Ortiz and if you compare that to the Units=$$$ ratio I provided a few months ago, you'll find that my personal play on Ortiz was well above a 2 unit play...I only recommended a 1 unit play here for money management purposes

2) I have a few investors that I recommend my big plays to, when they win I keep a nice percentage of their profits. This week they won very big on Ortiz...and so did I


Great week

gl bl

Well you just put me in my place. Congrats on a great week. :clap: I can't make you look bad BL- everyone knows your a true capper. I loaded up on Ortiz also but check this- Ortiz fight started at 6:10 pm here in Vegas. I leave my house and arrive at the casino at 6:20 and see Casa warming up in the ring. I sit down next to my buddy(who don't know boxing) and asked him what happened in the first fight- he tells me KO. I say OK it was an old guy 36 versus young guy who KO who and he tells me old guy gets it done and I'm just in shock then I'm almost as loaded up on Casa and after those 12 rounds prior to the decision being announced I felt like my boxing capping career was done. The gift was announced and then I get home at midnight and check fightnews to find Ortiz won. Happy Ending- just like they have at every massage parlor here in Vegas :00hour

 

[gardenweasel]

That was a bullsht break in the action. Shane was turning the tide in the fight and the idiot ref gave cotto at least 30 secs to recover from being stunned. Horrendous and inexcusable decision to do that. that being said, I had cotto by 3 rds in the fight. Despite what alot of people are saying Shane can't improve on that performance at his age. It was an excellent fight but I hope shane calls it a day.

I went 0-3....ummm, errrrrr 1-2 on the week and made a little over 1k profit, thanks to the blatantly corrupt Casa dec. That would have been my worst week of the yr had Santa been given the deserved dec.

Cod-L/med lrge
Casa-W/LARGE
Moseley inside-L/small/

romi,i`ll tell what really irked me about the mosley/cotto "delay" for water in the ring in round 9.....

i was pissed when it happened...brought back memories of castillo/corrales(which,imo,changed the outcome of that fight)...

but,in the 11th or 12th,mosley was in the very same corner,by himself....cotto was about 7 feet away from him and they weren`t engaged....

mosley literally slipped and fell to the canvas....from water on the canvas.....again,in the same corner...

but,did the ref stop the action to wipe the surface?...after mosely literally slipped and fell?........absolutely not!

yet,he stopped the fight when mosely had cotto reeling....and no one,during that exchange had slipped....

did the hbo crew make an issue of this?...no...

but.if the situation had been reversed,anybody think that they`d have ignored it if their golden boy cotto had gotten short shrift?......

throw in the corrales/castillo scam....also throw in laurence cole asking j.m.marquez if he wanted to continue vs jimrex jaca when he was cut badly in a fight,because,"he was ahead on the cards".....a ref asking a guy if he wanted to continue fighting and telling him basically that it`s o.k. because he`s ahead?.....during the fight?....

and i don`t think he was suspended....

insanity...blatant b.s...

it`s getting crazy...they aren`t even slick about this garbage....

and yes,I had a bad week last week.....and i don`t care who knows it....:142smilie

 

[tonymontana]

Had no idea what you were talking about but I caught the last 2 fights on showtime mma tonight. Noons really jacked up diaz' face. There were about 4 very nasty cuts...both eyes, one over and under and his nose. I understand the gamesmanship but what a classless ahole for storming out like that on the part of diaz. Doctor stops fight due to multiple cuts after 1. Good call Tony.

**** i just found out that Noons was a plus 400 dog. I liked him even straight up on even odds. The last time i saw Diaz looked so slow and lethargic and Noons has a nice explosive boxing game.
Good thing my instincts are back on track bad thing i didnt capitalize on it.
BTW my man likes Soto and he pretty big too.
So i really thinking hard about Guzman.

 

[Romi]

**** i just found out that Noons was a plus 400 dog. I liked him even straight up on even odds. The last time i saw Diaz looked so slow and lethargic and Noons has a nice explosive boxing game.
Good thing my instincts are back on track bad thing i didnt capitalize on it.
BTW my man likes Soto and he pretty big too.
So i really thinking hard about Guzman.

I have 1 wager on Guzman and that was b4 the odds moved to -150. Guzman is the better technician here. His basics are VERY good. He can control a fight with the jab alone but he's got very good follow up. He appears to be extremely confident and he's looking for the ko. My concern is the 1 yr layoff. He can also get a little lackadasical in there and he certainly doesn't want to do that w/Soto. If Soto gets in a good rhythm, he'll be tough to beat. My pick is still Guzman by 116-113 variety. This is going to be a damn good fight. GL

 

[gardenweasel]

I have 1 wager on Guzman and that was b4 the odds moved to -150. Guzman is the better technician here. His basics are VERY good. He can control a fight with the jab alone but he's got very good follow up. He appears to be extremely confident and he's looking for the ko. My concern is the 1 yr layoff. He can also get a little lackadasical in there and he certainly doesn't want to do that w/Soto. If Soto gets in a good rhythm, he'll be tough to beat. My pick is still Guzman by 116-113 variety. This is going to be a damn good fight. GL

imo,i think this wpuld be a worthy ppv main event....or at least,co-feature....i`d gladly pay to see this one.......

 

[THE KOD]

nice job this week Box

KOD