awesome night box! glad to see you back on track. i ended up getting tickets for the tarver-hopkins fight. should be a good one. thanks again for the picks!
Boxing 3/31 - 4/1
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box, quick question for you? 5 dimes graded my griffin/luevano parlay as a win & a no action for luevano, what's going on here, did they grade yours as a winner?
just called 5 dimes, i had put in the bet with luevano facing adam hernandez, but i guess the opponent was changed?
HoopsGuru said:
I played my parlay at sportsbook.com as their line was much cheaper on Luevano. Martinez was listed as the opponent and it was graded a winner.
Something's fishy here though, I played the Luevano over 9.5 -170 at 5dimes and Martinez was listed as the opponent and it was graded a winner.
Sounds like 5dimes is screwing you around...imagine that
and congrats to you b.l.,on a nice week thus far....
what a great fight....both guys surprised me....brewster has incredible snap on his shots...
lyakhovich used the jab nicely....and that right to the side was brutal...
around the tenth i was screaming at lyakhovich to keep that left hand up...he ate so many right hands...
how tough are these guys?....what an incredible heavyweight fight....brewster needs to punch a little more...and not throw every punch to decapitate...
the best heavyweight fight i`ve seen in a very long time....hell,the best fight i`ve seen in a long time...
both guys showed some skill....great heart and resilience....nice jabs.....and laded some very clean power shots....
i don`t think that lyakhovich has the power to hold the belt for very long...unless he`s moved carefully...
the heavyweight division really needed that....
btw...don king had both these guys signed(i wasn`t sure about brewster...i should have known)...and he wasn`t happy....looking at his face,you`d have thought his septic tank had backed up... brewster was gaining momentum in the division...
on the toughness scale,these guys fall just below teddy kennedy`s liver....and that`s saying something....
looks like a nice night for everyone...
what a great fight....both guys surprised me....brewster has incredible snap on his shots...
lyakhovich used the jab nicely....and that right to the side was brutal...
around the tenth i was screaming at lyakhovich to keep that left hand up...he ate so many right hands...
how tough are these guys?....what an incredible heavyweight fight....brewster needs to punch a little more...and not throw every punch to decapitate...
the best heavyweight fight i`ve seen in a very long time....hell,the best fight i`ve seen in a long time...
both guys showed some skill....great heart and resilience....nice jabs.....and laded some very clean power shots....
i don`t think that lyakhovich has the power to hold the belt for very long...unless he`s moved carefully...
the heavyweight division really needed that....
btw...don king had both these guys signed(i wasn`t sure about brewster...i should have known)...and he wasn`t happy....looking at his face,you`d have thought his septic tank had backed up... brewster was gaining momentum in the division...
on the toughness scale,these guys fall just below teddy kennedy`s liver....and that`s saying something....
looks like a nice night for everyone...
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forget the gambling angle...i`m shocked there isn`t more buzz about this fight.....
everybody bemoaning the state of the heavyweight division....then, this on the heels of the the rahman/toney snoozer....
there are no great fighters in the heavyweight division....granted...
there are few legit heavyweights that get in shape and are even "very good"....soooo,i guess the best we can hope for are competitive,action filled fights.....from guys with some skill and heart..
and that`s what this was...i`m surprised there are no other comments....
obviously,people prefer a big boogeyman.....one that`s incrementally better than everyone else....winning walkovers....
that`s apparently preferable to a solid,almost exceptional action fight(not a flailing toughman contest...a competitive action fight featuring guys that looked like they knew what they were doing)...
that`s why boxing is dying....people want to see phenoms blowing out journeymen on their way up the ladder...instead of seeing two real fighters...with some skill....fighting like a title was on the line....
because that`s what these guys did...
excellent fight...ok,they aren`t joe louis...but,anyone that didn`t enjoy that fight,that wasn`t pulled into the drama of it....wasn`t a boxing fan...
there aren`t many of us left..
thankfully,we have some on this board...
this was an excellent fight...
everybody bemoaning the state of the heavyweight division....then, this on the heels of the the rahman/toney snoozer....
there are no great fighters in the heavyweight division....granted...
there are few legit heavyweights that get in shape and are even "very good"....soooo,i guess the best we can hope for are competitive,action filled fights.....from guys with some skill and heart..
and that`s what this was...i`m surprised there are no other comments....
obviously,people prefer a big boogeyman.....one that`s incrementally better than everyone else....winning walkovers....
that`s apparently preferable to a solid,almost exceptional action fight(not a flailing toughman contest...a competitive action fight featuring guys that looked like they knew what they were doing)...
that`s why boxing is dying....people want to see phenoms blowing out journeymen on their way up the ladder...instead of seeing two real fighters...with some skill....fighting like a title was on the line....
because that`s what these guys did...
excellent fight...ok,they aren`t joe louis...but,anyone that didn`t enjoy that fight,that wasn`t pulled into the drama of it....wasn`t a boxing fan...
there aren`t many of us left..
thankfully,we have some on this board...
this was an excellent fight...
All I can say GW is that your reporting skills have improved tremendously. Content is superb. You however neglect proper punctuation and syntax. This will be overlooked and as your contributions more than make up for this minor oversight. I did'nt see the bout as we were at a wedding to offer congratulations, or perhaps condolences, to the happy couple. I will make a point of seeing it after your sterling review. As a side note, I already bet Tarver at -200 here in Sin City for a fairly hefty sum, at least for me. The arbitrage is there already. I wonder if I should play Hoppy now at +260 or so to cut down my odds, or do you feel the number on Tarver will leak up closer to fight time? Any and all responses are welcome.
franks...you aren`t the first to compare my "syntax and punctuation" skills to a "british shit spreader"...lol.....it`s my curse...
check the fight out.....i think it`s back on monday......might lose a little ooomph due to the fact that you know the result....lose the drama...brewster remained very dangerous throughout....
they exchanged blistering right hands that just missed several times...good stuff..
btw...i`ll have you know i`m a p.h.d........
(post-hole-digger,that is)
check the fight out.....i think it`s back on monday......might lose a little ooomph due to the fact that you know the result....lose the drama...brewster remained very dangerous throughout....
they exchanged blistering right hands that just missed several times...good stuff..
btw...i`ll have you know i`m a p.h.d........
(post-hole-digger,that is)
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gw
You're absolutely right, it was an excellent fight and I agree with everything you said. The momentum swings were unbelievable and having money on the distance was quite a ride. It came down to Brewster's inactivity between attacks, Lyak wasn't a huge puncher but Brew gave him so many opportunities to get off and they took their toll. Lamon loaded up on way too many punches in the middle rounds and ate too many punches in the late rounds. He had almost nothing left in the championship rounds, but was still dangerous. When Lyak took a knee, it was due to 3 huge body shots, not sure why Brew didn't focus on the body after that.
How many more of these wars can Brewster take? He was out on his feet while taking punishment against Klit, Meehan, and now Lyak. Eventually those punches will catch up to him, probably sooner than later. He should get that melon checked asap.
Congrats again on the big winners
You're absolutely right, it was an excellent fight and I agree with everything you said. The momentum swings were unbelievable and having money on the distance was quite a ride. It came down to Brewster's inactivity between attacks, Lyak wasn't a huge puncher but Brew gave him so many opportunities to get off and they took their toll. Lamon loaded up on way too many punches in the middle rounds and ate too many punches in the late rounds. He had almost nothing left in the championship rounds, but was still dangerous. When Lyak took a knee, it was due to 3 huge body shots, not sure why Brew didn't focus on the body after that.
How many more of these wars can Brewster take? He was out on his feet while taking punishment against Klit, Meehan, and now Lyak. Eventually those punches will catch up to him, probably sooner than later. He should get that melon checked asap.
Congrats again on the big winners
frank s. said:
As posted above, I played Tarver at -210 so we're in the same boat, which way should we go frankie?
My initial thought was to just take it at that cheap price and let it ride (I was expecting -300 or more)
Then I decided that hedging with Hopkins by decision at +350 or more was the way to go as there's no way Hopkins will stop him.
But now I'm not so sure. Tarver just got done shooting Rocky 12 and had to gain weight to play the heavyweight role, he said he was over 200 lbs. He also claims he's gonna prove that RJJ's excuse for losing their first fight was bogus...by losing the same amount of weight and performing well.
Here's the problem, Tarver bet Hop 250,000 that he will stop him inside 5 rounds. Thats not good for the Hop decision prop as Tarver could punch himself out early and be drained down the stretch from dropping too much weight. I still don't think Hopkins could hurt him but Tarver could pull a W. Klit and fall over from exhaustion.
The investor in me says scalp at +275 or better, take the free money and enjoy the fight. The gambler in me says let it ride at a great price. Tarver is sooo much bigger than Hopkins who is really a junior middleweight having fought at 156 and 157 in the last few years at almost 40 years old. Hop hasn't looked that great in the last few years, he may have deserved to win one or both of the Taylor fights, but Taylors not that special and Hop was very inactive in both fights. He knew he had to be more active in the second fight, but he wasn't. I can't imagine Hop letting his hands go against a legit and powerful light heavy. And Tarver is a taller southpaw, remember how ineffective Hopkins was against lefty Robert Allen in their last fight. Allen is only 5'9" Tarver is 6'2" and he's naturally 20 lbs heavier.
The only thing that concerns me about letting the bet ride...is Tarver dropping 25 pounds to make weight and punching himslef out in the early rounds.
gl in whatever you decide my friend
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Guess there are many intangibles. We surely are on the same page here, wager and thought process both. Fighters say many things before a fight regarding KO predictions and such. Keeping it simple, I'd say if Tarver has his head screwed on even a little tight, B-hop is in for a rough nite. This isn't Oscar or a nervous JT. I mean, why is Hopkins fighting a lt. heavy anyway; $$$$$ perhaps? Thing is, how many times have guys lost at their optimum weight and "moved up" thinking they will be stronger at a higher weight? Flawed thinking I'd say. The guys they will face are already bigger and stronger. Fifteen pounds will be a steep hill for Bernard to scale. Tarver has two months to regroup. Professional athletes do this all the time. If the line leaks up, I will most likely buy some Hopkins to hopefully get Tarver even money.
