Boxing 5/3 - 5/6
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No he's not hurt but he's losing every round, May did hurt DLH slightly in round 4 I believe but Oscar is taking his shots very well
Starting round 5 now
Starting round 5 now
DLH stops Mayorga in the 6th
Damn it..I just needed 1:30 to cash one of the big props
Oh well, still had the straight bet on Oscar
Huge Week
Damn it..I just needed 1:30 to cash one of the big props
Oh well, still had the straight bet on Oscar
Huge Week
Wow very surprised!
Wow very surprised!
DLH proved me wrong. I didn't see the fight, but it sounds like there's still some fight left in him after all. Cream rises to the top again. Sounds like Mayo was never in the fight. I saw DLH winning, but not by the KO especially relatively early in the fight.
Wow very surprised!
DLH proved me wrong. I didn't see the fight, but it sounds like there's still some fight left in him after all. Cream rises to the top again. Sounds like Mayo was never in the fight. I saw DLH winning, but not by the KO especially relatively early in the fight.
Man thats bull, he barely got moved by trinidad's left hooks and all of a sudden when he fights DLH he begins to have a glass jaw. Hmmm makes me wonder why he stopped asking for that extra dough 24 hours later ????
Another Solid Week by Boxlocks!
Another Solid Week by Boxlocks!
Thanks for the 3rd or 4th Straight Positive Week and all the fast round updates.
Good luck next week,
Matt
Another Solid Week by Boxlocks!
Thanks for the 3rd or 4th Straight Positive Week and all the fast round updates.
Good luck next week,
Matt
Ruffdogg said:
Hoya is a far better boxer than Tito. Granted, Tito hits harder but Hoya is far more accurate of a fighter. He got hit with clean shots all night long. Half of which he never saw coming. If you prepare to be hit and know it's coming like the Tito hooks in the 1st round Mayorga took, you can take them better. He has no defense or jab. Oscar has under rated power and chin. I don't see how people thought Mayorga would win. Please, no conspiracy theories needed.....
I agree...when Tito gave Mayorga the beat down, he was simply a head hunter and ultimately rattled Mayorga enough that he couldn't continue whereas Oscar fought a balanced fight and did exactly what he said he would do -- he broke down Mayorga's body. That's part of the reason the left hooks were so effective -- Mayorga was holding his hands low all night.
If De La Hoya does have one fight left I hope it's against Tito...would be an easy payday -- no bicycle for that fight.
I think it will be a career ending, mega payday against PBF at 154 in September. At 154, I like Oscar's chances. In a close fight, I could also see the judges giving him a close "farewell gift" for a decision. PBF wouldn't win by KO. He would have to dominate on the cards....
Futures
5/13 Collazo over Hatton +400...to win 1/2 unit
5/17 Mundine-Green over 9.5 +110...to win 1/2 unit
5/17 Mundine by decision +300...to win 1 unit
5/20 Barerra over Juarez -330...to win 1/2 unit
6/10 Tarver over Hopkins -210...to win 1/2 unit
6/10 Hopkins wins by decision +415...lay .2 to win .85
7/22 Baldomir over Gatti +400...to win 1 unit
I'm still pissed about missing that +650 prop bet...1:30 more and it was in the bank...so close
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5/13 Collazo over Hatton +400...to win 1/2 unit
5/17 Mundine-Green over 9.5 +110...to win 1/2 unit
5/17 Mundine by decision +300...to win 1 unit
5/20 Barerra over Juarez -330...to win 1/2 unit
6/10 Tarver over Hopkins -210...to win 1/2 unit
6/10 Hopkins wins by decision +415...lay .2 to win .85
7/22 Baldomir over Gatti +400...to win 1 unit
I'm still pissed about missing that +650 prop bet...1:30 more and it was in the bank...so close
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BOXLOCKS said:
any chance I can get some early insight into this one as I have Hatton in a parlay...thanks in advance and congrats on the stellar week.
Collazo +400 is basically a value play, I noticed Bet365 had that big # while the other books were +300 or so.
As posted, I'm only playing it to win 1/2 unit so given the odds its hardly risking anything. Its a long shot bet but here's why I think it could win...
Collazo has always fought at 147, Hatton is stepping up from 140 for the first time even though he admits he can make 140 easily. So he's stepping out of his natural weight and fighting a slick, skilled, southpaw who is 3" taller and 7" longer. Collazo is also a King fighter, that always helps. If he's in excellent shape and can keep up the lateral movement for 12 rounds (like Freitas did to Corrales for 8 rounds) he could make it very difficult for Hatton to get inside. This is Hatton's first fight in the US, you never know how that will effect him, esp combined with the new weight and the southpaw opponent.
However
Hatton is a wildman who comes forward constantly throwing big shots to the head and to the body, every now and then Collazo's back will hit the ropes and he will have to trade. Hatton may be the smaller guy, but he's the stronger of the two and he hits harder than Collazo.
Inside...big advantage for Hatton
Outside...big advantage for Collazo
The question is...how long can Collazo keep Hatton off him, and can he take the heat when its time to trade
There's two X factors here...
1) Hatton is promoted by Fight Acadamy and Banner promotions, they are promoting this event and will be signing the checks, not Don King. As was discussed two weeks ago, Banner promotions has a history of getting what they want. For example Freitas is a Banner guy and he got all the close rounds against Raheem.
This could be a big advantage for Hatton
2) Hatton has a long history of cutting in fights, usually early. I layed the heavy wood on Ricky (-700) against that joke Maussa. I think it was the first round that I started sh*tting bricks when a Maussa haymaker opened up a cut over Hatton's eye. Luckily they got it under control and Hatton sealed the deal, but I sure didn't like my odds when the blood started to flow. Anyway, Collazo is a southpaw which increases the odds of a headbutt. Collazo also throws quik, sharp punches, very accurate, it wouldn't surprise me if he opened a cut early by targeting the scar tissue.
In summary...
I think you did a wise thing in parlaying Hatton, hopefully you're getting close to even money, in that case...let it ride.
I wouldn't recommend a straight bet on Hatton...obviously
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As posted, I'm only playing it to win 1/2 unit so given the odds its hardly risking anything. Its a long shot bet but here's why I think it could win...
Collazo has always fought at 147, Hatton is stepping up from 140 for the first time even though he admits he can make 140 easily. So he's stepping out of his natural weight and fighting a slick, skilled, southpaw who is 3" taller and 7" longer. Collazo is also a King fighter, that always helps. If he's in excellent shape and can keep up the lateral movement for 12 rounds (like Freitas did to Corrales for 8 rounds) he could make it very difficult for Hatton to get inside. This is Hatton's first fight in the US, you never know how that will effect him, esp combined with the new weight and the southpaw opponent.
However
Hatton is a wildman who comes forward constantly throwing big shots to the head and to the body, every now and then Collazo's back will hit the ropes and he will have to trade. Hatton may be the smaller guy, but he's the stronger of the two and he hits harder than Collazo.
Inside...big advantage for Hatton
Outside...big advantage for Collazo
The question is...how long can Collazo keep Hatton off him, and can he take the heat when its time to trade
There's two X factors here...
1) Hatton is promoted by Fight Acadamy and Banner promotions, they are promoting this event and will be signing the checks, not Don King. As was discussed two weeks ago, Banner promotions has a history of getting what they want. For example Freitas is a Banner guy and he got all the close rounds against Raheem.
This could be a big advantage for Hatton
2) Hatton has a long history of cutting in fights, usually early. I layed the heavy wood on Ricky (-700) against that joke Maussa. I think it was the first round that I started sh*tting bricks when a Maussa haymaker opened up a cut over Hatton's eye. Luckily they got it under control and Hatton sealed the deal, but I sure didn't like my odds when the blood started to flow. Anyway, Collazo is a southpaw which increases the odds of a headbutt. Collazo also throws quik, sharp punches, very accurate, it wouldn't surprise me if he opened a cut early by targeting the scar tissue.
In summary...
I think you did a wise thing in parlaying Hatton, hopefully you're getting close to even money, in that case...let it ride.
I wouldn't recommend a straight bet on Hatton...obviously
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That was a great breakdown Box. The only thing I disagree with is that I think Hatton did have a few fights in the U.S. early in his career before he got big. I think this would take away the first time factor in the U.S giving another advantage to Hatton. I also think with as much weight as Hatton sheds before fights, he probably is naturally bigger weight wise than Collazo also....
You're right geto, Hatton has fought in the US three times...97' 98' 00' I should've checked before making that assumption. Either way, its been 6 years since his last trip and the level of competition is much different this time around. Hatton has gotten very comfortable having fought almost 20 straight fights in England since coming here.
IMO Hatton would only be naturally bigger if Collazo could make 140 but has chosen not to his entire career, and I'm not so sure of that. The excess weight that Hatton puts on between fights just reflects his lifestyle and lack of training between fights. If Hatton can make 140 easily, then that is his natural weight. Maybe Collazo could make 140 but doesn't want to...who knows.
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IMO Hatton would only be naturally bigger if Collazo could make 140 but has chosen not to his entire career, and I'm not so sure of that. The excess weight that Hatton puts on between fights just reflects his lifestyle and lack of training between fights. If Hatton can make 140 easily, then that is his natural weight. Maybe Collazo could make 140 but doesn't want to...who knows.
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thanks box..i have Hatton and one open spot for my parlay after nailing down the white sox and pistons yesterday so it will pay over even money depending on the open game i select
i sat down and watched the tape of garcia/rivera last night....and i must say,rivera...despite the layoff and the move up in weight...looked very good....he`s improved a good deal since i saw him years ago...
he fights a little short armed...but he`s fairly accurate,very durable and it looks like his power is pretty good at 154...granted,garcia`s a poor defensive fighter with a weak chin...
i think back to collazo beating him in his own hometown awhile back....
collazo...a southpaw..5`9"....has been stopped once...by 6`1" banger edwin casiani......
i think i`m missing something here...collazo`s no dog...he`s pretty durable...he`s taller...a lefty...fairly clever...and hungry...
he`s also fought as high as 152-154 a few times...
hatton`s only 5`6"....never actually fought outside jr welter....and tends to blow up between fights...
will hatton`s power be better at 147?...that`s a 7 pound jump...that`s considerable....
i`m not sure that i`d be fighting collazo in my first" big" bout in the states...maybe because he`s not a big banger..but,these are bigger guys that ricky`s fighting...and it ain`t in his own backyard...make no mistake how important that can be...
collazo`s from n.y...and he`s puerto rican...i believe he`ll have plenty of support....
.i think this is a very dangerous fight...not saying ricky won`t be to much...just saying,i`m not sure..not sure at all..
well worth a 4-1 shot....i took a piece at a little less than that...
do ricky`s people expect hatton to steamroll collazo?...i`m not sure it`ll be all that easy...maybe i`m wrong..
he fights a little short armed...but he`s fairly accurate,very durable and it looks like his power is pretty good at 154...granted,garcia`s a poor defensive fighter with a weak chin...
i think back to collazo beating him in his own hometown awhile back....
collazo...a southpaw..5`9"....has been stopped once...by 6`1" banger edwin casiani......
i think i`m missing something here...collazo`s no dog...he`s pretty durable...he`s taller...a lefty...fairly clever...and hungry...
he`s also fought as high as 152-154 a few times...
hatton`s only 5`6"....never actually fought outside jr welter....and tends to blow up between fights...
will hatton`s power be better at 147?...that`s a 7 pound jump...that`s considerable....
i`m not sure that i`d be fighting collazo in my first" big" bout in the states...maybe because he`s not a big banger..but,these are bigger guys that ricky`s fighting...and it ain`t in his own backyard...make no mistake how important that can be...
collazo`s from n.y...and he`s puerto rican...i believe he`ll have plenty of support....
.i think this is a very dangerous fight...not saying ricky won`t be to much...just saying,i`m not sure..not sure at all..
well worth a 4-1 shot....i took a piece at a little less than that...
do ricky`s people expect hatton to steamroll collazo?...i`m not sure it`ll be all that easy...maybe i`m wrong..
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Box, the new lines just came out on sportsbook. I see some good dog choices for the week. I like the under on Weds.. night and also I might play the Woods under if it get's more steam and + money....just thought you or anyone else would like to know that sportsbook dropped the weekly lines..............
