Boxing 6/24 - 6/25

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2 unit plays: 1-0 +2.0
1 unit plays: 8-2 +5.25
.5 unit plays: 43-19 +1.15
Dogs: 44-32 +12.0


6/24 Dogs

Vanda-Campos over 11.5 +125...lay .2 to win .25 (winner)

Castillo-Meza over 11.5 +125...lay .2 to win .25 (loser)


6/25

Mayweather over Gatti -400 to win 1/2 unit (winner)

Bungu-Mashaba over 11.5 -220 to win 1/2 unit (winner)

Dogs

Mayweather-Gatti under 11.5 +170...lay .2 to win .35 (winner)

Mashaba over Bungu +165...lay .2 to win .35 (winner)

Chavez Jr-Galvan over 5 +102...to win .35 (loser)


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good luck this week guy's

I got Mayweather/Gatti under 11.5 +140, tailing boxlocks, got it a few weeks ago.
not much on it though.

tailing him on Castillo/Meza, I liked it when I looked at it, and then saw boxlocks is playing as well. not much though

Ivan Calderon vs Valverde. just for fun under 11.5 +295, minimum amount. Valverde is a kayo artist, so I figure if he wins it will be early, and since he hasn't faced anyone good, he might get stopped late. but no real data here.

Martin Castillo -300. Ishihara roughed him up last time, and it was a close fight. I think Castillo will be better this time and will stop Ishihara a few rounds sooner. a small amount. might add more. put everything I had on Castillo over Morel, but Ishihara is a different fighter.

BIG PLAY O' THE WEEK
JC chavez jr over 5 rounds Galvan -115
put 1.15 unit to win 1 unit
unless Galvan takes a dive.
 
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playing .9 units to win .3 on Castillo
i am confident, but then a little worried. lol
 

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spread...japan is a worry...but....i expect castillo to be even more prepared this time around...

something of interest...see the date..

Last update: 06-10-2005 Submitted by Ronnie Nathanielsz


Bautista Batters World Contender in Sparring E-mail this to a friend Printable version



By Ronnie Nathanielsz

WBO Asia Pacific bantamweight champion Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista displayed his awesome punching power when he battered WBA No. 8 super flyweight contender Hideyoshi Ishehara during a workout at the ALA Gym in Cebu, yesterday.

The hard-hitting Bautista mercilessly hammered Ishehara who is training at the ALA Gym in preparation for his WBA super flyweight title fight against champion Martin Castillo of Mexico. Ishehara and two other Japanese fighters, minimum weight Suguru Takizawa and bantamweight Akio Konichi are training at the famed ALA Gym which is regarded as one of the finest in Asia if not the world.

It was Bautista’s final day of sparring in preparation for his career defining showdown with Mexican hitman Gilberto Bolanos on June 11 in a blockbuster fight card dubbed "El Gran Combate – A Time for Revenge" at the air-conditioned Mandaue City Sports Complex. Bolanos is expected to arrive in Cebu today. ""

i`m wondering how much santiago samaniego has left....because i know that troy lowry and that whole minnesota crew is utter garbage...including vanda...

samaniego may no longer be world class...yes,he`s slow... .but,the class level between samaniego and lowry is monumental...he can punch...and has been in with so much higher caliber fighters than lowry it`s scary....

check lowry`s record...maybe 2,3 guys at the outside with winning records when he`s beaten....and they`re all garbage...

he was running around the ring after losing soundly to 40+ year old hector camacho saying"i went 10 with camacho...not bad for a white boy".....?????

wtf is that? ...the under 9.5 at -130 is even worth a look...


a 35 year old plasterer....that quit and came back...and has lost 4 of his last 6 vs dubious competiton..

the only rub is that it`s in minnesota...and they are famous for robbing visiting fighters....

i think vanda is the focus...not sure that lowry has that kind of following...

he`s a ham and egger...

the question is,what does samaiego have left?...he`s talking a run at a title...but,they all say that...

how much is left of samaniego?...and how much does the venue factor in?...

if samaniego can`t get to lowry,he should retire...

a small par with samaniego and castillo?...


box...i`ll return your e mail tonight....

let me know what you guys think..

g.l.
 
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i have lowry's last fight, cant' say I watched it. but he lost to another white guy. samaneigo might knock him out, that would be my pick.

i am thinking about going 3 units to win 1 on Castillo. Castillo came in on late notice the last time. He is an all around better fighter, and it should show. but I would be crapping my pants all weekend waiting for it to happen.
 

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castillo can fight.....and ,no doubt,he`s better than ishehara,imo....

i know the jose navarro/kawashima fight is floating around in the back of your mind.....it`s making me queasy...

it`s always chancy fighting overseas...

i still think that castillo should get it done...

but,i`m not laying 3-1 on castillo or samaniego...
i`ll try the par and hope for the best.


have quite a bit tied to floyd in pars...and a little on a gatti inside the distance prop at 8-1....
 
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let me say one thing on gatti/mayweather....actually,several things...

if it`s at all possible,i expect gatti to get every benefit of the doubt from the powers that be in atlantic city...the judges...the ref.....don`t know about the ring size....wish i did...

gatti is atlantic city`s boy...he packs the house every time...he`s their signature fighter...

if he can hang in with floyd,jr,it`s in atlantic city`s interests to shade it towards gatti...

gatti could fight any schmuck and still pack `em in at a.c.....

as far as the fight is concerned,maybe the size will help gatti..and obviously the venue....i`m reading he will be as much as 15 pounds heavier by fight time.....he`s come in at almost 160 after making the jr welter limit...ask joey gamache...lol

but,i will say again...look at his competition since his rebirth.... a shot millett,ward 3 times...branco,dorin,leija.....

all either smallish,over the hill or fighting above weight... smallish except branco and ward......branco can`t punch...ward takes a beating in the dressing room by the guy using the target mitts(lol).....

they both fought manfredy in the same year...he k.o.`ed gatti....mayweather k.o.`ed manfredy in 2....granted,7 years ago...

and ivan roninson gave gatti fits....mayweather is a sort of robinson....times 10....

gatti has to jump on floyd...how many times have we seen guys that are underdogs win when they take the fight right to the fave,recently....notice how tentative glen johnson was in the second fight...and tarver picked him to pieces... i know he loves that new jab...but he won`t outbox floyd,jr......

who gave floyd the most trouble?....not corrales....who stood outside and got the hell beat out of himself....

it was castillo....who pressured floyd....he may have actually won the first fight...

gatti has to jump on floyd...and hurt him to the body...push him to the ropes..get the pro-gatti crowd into it...build some momentum early...ala ricky hatton....if ricky had been patient,tszyu would still be champ....and johnson wouldn`t have beaten jones and tarver....and brewster wouldn`t have beaten golota..barrera/morales 3....pacquaio/marquez.....etc...etc...

if you are out-talented(not so in all of the above),you have to start quickly...and,as i said, i actually think that the judges,with the crowd and all,will be looking to help gatti if possible...that`s what i think...

but,if he stands outside with mayweather,i doubt he goes 12... floyd will pick him to pieces...much like corrales..

i`m not sold on mcgirt as a super trainer....i think he`ll have gatti do what he did with the shorter,less quick guys like leija..... and that`s a mistake..

he was outboxed by manfredy and robinson... and if i recall,gatti was having some trouble with branco ...i remember mcgirt telling gatti after the 8th that he "had to win the last 4 rounds"....

branco..fairly slow...jab and a right hand...no power...but he was dropping the right hand on gatti early...maybe gatti overlooked him...but,gatti struggles with boxers that are around his height...

he has to use his size and those monster hooks to the body...

if he takes the fight to floyd....uses that strength to bully floyd....gets the crowd into it...gets big crowd reaction every time he does something positive....and doesn`t break up,who knows... it`s boxing...

who thought castillo could fluster floyd?....but,he did...

but........in the real world...

mayweather ...possibly via a cut or multiple punch stoppage late...if gatti thinks he`s a boxer vs this caliber of fighter,and tries to be cute,it could get real ugly...

i have alot tied up in parlays with floyd,jr.....so i`m hedging gatti at 8-1 inside the distance....and maybe a little by decision if the odds are high enough...

styles make fights...and i see this as a bad style for gatti...

but,there have been some strange happenings in boxing of late...
 
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Kawashima-Navarro was a robbery but lets get real. Japan has a LOT of title fights and I see quite a few of them. They have very few robberies compared to most places. Hell the decisions over there are typically better than in the US. 1 decision don't make everything in Japan bad.
 

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i agree,mayorga....hell,we saw some terrible decisions on tuesday night fights two days ago...

my point is,that when you fight on the road....and you are laying 3 to win one...it`s always an iffy proposition....

the first castillo/ishehara fight was tight....he was behind on two cards at the time of the stoppage...he probably loses if it goes the distance...

and the navarro decision,from what i`ve read,was utterly crooked....it was so wrong,there had to be something fishy involved...

why couldn`t it happen again?...of course it could....

there`s more chance of castillo getting jobbed in japan than hacienda heights ,california....
 
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I just heard that Gatti is heavier than suppose to be. Although he looks good, he will have to do some dehydrating.......not a good thing for the strength and stamina.
 

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i agree,mayorga....hell,we saw some terrible decisions on tuesday night fights two days ago...

my point is,that when you fight on the road....and you are laying 3 to win one...it`s always an iffy proposition....

the first castillo/ishehara fight was tight....he was behind on two cards at the time of the stoppage...he probably loses if it goes the distance...

and the navarro decision,from what i`ve read,was utterly crooked....it was so wrong,there had to be something fishy involved...

why couldn`t it happen again?...of course it could....

there`s more chance of castillo getting jobbed in japan than hacienda heights ,california....

Stuff like that can happen anywhere. I have watched guys like parra and Sahaprom go over to japan and win pretty close fights. I have no clue what happened with Kawashima-navarro but whatever it was, it's not typical. Castillo being behind in the first fight WAS LEGIT though. I have the fight on tape. Either guy could have been ahead by a bit. Castillo can only lose this fight by cuts. I know considering the first fight was close, I know that's funny to say but Castillo will win as long as he don't get cut up. When Ishiharra losses he goes out on his back, I expect this fight to be no different.
 

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hello, anyone know much bout Kenny Craven? Do you think he'll last over 3.5rds against Calvin Brock?
 

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all i`m saying is that i might feel comfortable laying 3-1 in california...

you fight on another guy`s home turf....be it japan ot timbucktu,you`ve got a much better chance of losing close....

that`s not rocket science...
 

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of course but if you think Castillo KO's the weak chinned ishiharra it don't matter. Castillo was ill prepared for the first fight. Ishiharra had been training to fight Munoz, Munoz hurt himself. Castillo was told to fight ishiharra so he did. HOWEVER he had a lot of weight to lose and only a month to do it. The fight showed as much as Castillo didn't look to good for much of it. His stamina was clearly not the same and he wasn't as sharp. That's why if you read the interviews Castillo says he is better prepared this time, because he had a lot of preperation time. Personally I think Castillo is going to kick the shit out of Ishiharra this time but no I couldn;t lay the odds either. We shall see.
 

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you have to have the utter belief to lay a lot at those odds. and I do and am.

thanks for the info guys
 

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sen said:
hello, anyone know much bout Kenny Craven? Do you think he'll last over 3.5rds against Calvin Brock?


Craven has a long history of getting KTFO!!!

The length of this fight will be dictated by Brock's gameplan, not Craven's ability to take a punch. If Brock wants to end this early it will be over in the first 2 rounds. If he wants to get some rounds in and work on his game, it could go over.

No play for me, unless I hear Brock wants a short night

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No play for me, unless I hear Brock wants a short night

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It has been widely published that Brock is college (university) educated and has held down a post in a bank so he was perhaps motivated by a desire not to insult his own intelligence more than anything else when he shrugged a fighter's obligation to pretend 'every fighter is dangerous' or whatever other euphemism is in vogue for a public lynching masquerading as a boxing match.

"I'm going there to knock him out as fast a possible," Brock told SecondsOut on Tuesday. "This fight is just something for me to get back in the gym, strengthen my weaknesses and is a chance for me to appear on a high-profile card."

Craven is high-light reel fodder, in other words.

"I'm a puncher and I'm always looking for the knockout," Brock said. "I'm not a guy who says 'if the knockout comes, it comes' - I go looking for the knockout because I believe in my punching power. I want to get 'em outta there! I want to be impressive, get people talking about me as (the future) heavyweight champion of the world and to do that I need to knock these guys out."

Looking beyond Saturday, Brock has been promised a major fight on the second Main Events promoted ESPN PPV card this November.

He said: "I haven't been given a shortlist (of potential opponents) or like that but I've been told it will be either a world title fight or at least an eliminator for a world title fight. The way it is right now I feel I didn't quite get the respect from the sanctioning bodies that I should have for beaten Jameel McCline (w pts 10, April 2005, Las Vegas).
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it kinda sounds like a short night to me.

Brock needs it to get in the spotlight.
 
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