Pacquiao has fought the better level of competiton. He is actually 1/2" taller than Diaz. He is much faster, and speed kills, as has been said. Diaz will just get hit too much here. He may look good out of the gate, but will most likely fade as it grinds along. Either I find a strong parlay partner to go with Pacquiao-430, OR, I take Pacquiao INSIDE-130@ 5 Dimes. When 5Dimes posts their props: will there be a knockdown, the answer is YES. I see Pac using that straight left to accomplish this. The difference in skill sets here is too great. Not an ultra sophisticated analysis, but it may be simple to begin with. Be back with props when 5Dimes gets around to posting them.
Boxing; 6-28-2008; Pacquiao-Diaz
- Thread starter frank s.
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"I liked the goat. Goat is my favorite food."
/manny pacquaio...
Manny Pacquiao on the billy goat wearing a Chicago Cubs baseball cap that was on display during Monday's Santa Monica Pier press event. (Photo: Chris Farina/Top Rank)
Wednesday, June 25 2008
i thought this was a joke at fightnews...but,heres the evidence showing manny smuggling goats into chicago via speedboat...
where the hell is the "U.S. Goats Guard"?.....
:rimshot
/manny pacquaio...
Manny Pacquiao on the billy goat wearing a Chicago Cubs baseball cap that was on display during Monday's Santa Monica Pier press event. (Photo: Chris Farina/Top Rank)
Wednesday, June 25 2008
i thought this was a joke at fightnews...but,heres the evidence showing manny smuggling goats into chicago via speedboat...
where the hell is the "U.S. Goats Guard"?.....
:rimshot
Ive been looking at the under here. After reading Tim Starks' preview, I wonder how serious Pac is taking Diaz, and how hard he's trained for this fight.
While Pac inside is the most likely outcome, if it does go into the 11th, it likely means Pac punished Diaz but couldn't finish, and now he's gassed and well ahead on the cards, waiting for the decision.
I agree the class gulf here is too big to back Diaz, but if Pac doesn't take him out in 8 or 9, I can see this going the distance due to fatigue and laziness.
Pac inside is -130, under 9.5 is +135. That's my likely (small) play, but Ill wait for some more analysis.
While Pac inside is the most likely outcome, if it does go into the 11th, it likely means Pac punished Diaz but couldn't finish, and now he's gassed and well ahead on the cards, waiting for the decision.
I agree the class gulf here is too big to back Diaz, but if Pac doesn't take him out in 8 or 9, I can see this going the distance due to fatigue and laziness.
Pac inside is -130, under 9.5 is +135. That's my likely (small) play, but Ill wait for some more analysis.
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Well, I am SOL as Peterson fell asleep tonite. Lost more than a few bucks! Hopefully someone will post a strong play to bail my dumb ass out.
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Well, I am SOL as Peterson fell asleep tonite. Lost more than a few bucks! Hopefully someone will post a strong play to bail my dumb ass out.
Ajetovic +225? :shrug:
Many guys here are backing him, Graham is picking the upset, and 'the man' is as well.
Some props from Bodog:
David Diaz leads on Ledermans card after 3 rounds
5.00
Leader on Ledermans card after round 3 loses fight or draw
5.25
I can see whyPacman is a clear favorite in this fight, but in three round anything can happen!
Maybe I'm missing something.
Do you think that Lederman will be biased (score all close rounds for Pacman)!?
Manny Pacquiao points handicap -9.5 Lederman Card
2.00
This line includes wins inside the distance, other bookies have about 1.75 for Pac to win inside the distance....
David Diaz leads on Ledermans card after 3 rounds
5.00
Leader on Ledermans card after round 3 loses fight or draw
5.25
I can see whyPacman is a clear favorite in this fight, but in three round anything can happen!
Maybe I'm missing something.
Do you think that Lederman will be biased (score all close rounds for Pacman)!?
Manny Pacquiao points handicap -9.5 Lederman Card
2.00
This line includes wins inside the distance, other bookies have about 1.75 for Pac to win inside the distance....
betting lederman is akin to playing russian roulette...i get the feeling that lederman makes up his mind who he likes prior to the fight...
you guys aren`t worried that manny is moving up or that diaz is a lefty that takes punishment fairly well?.....
the only lefties i`m seeing in recent history are a thai in 2004 at 121 and agapito sanchez in 2001 who he struggled with before going to a 6th rd technical no decision.....
manny started out as a flyweight while diaz was fighting at 140 early in his career....diaz` one stoppage was to a big 140 lb kendall holt...personally,i think holt`s size and speed would crush pacquaio at 140......
i`m not blind to why you guys are seeing manny easily...the speed difference is absolutely enormous...might be why holt stopped diaz...
but there are some ?? here,imo...no?
you guys aren`t worried that manny is moving up or that diaz is a lefty that takes punishment fairly well?.....
the only lefties i`m seeing in recent history are a thai in 2004 at 121 and agapito sanchez in 2001 who he struggled with before going to a 6th rd technical no decision.....
manny started out as a flyweight while diaz was fighting at 140 early in his career....diaz` one stoppage was to a big 140 lb kendall holt...personally,i think holt`s size and speed would crush pacquaio at 140......
i`m not blind to why you guys are seeing manny easily...the speed difference is absolutely enormous...might be why holt stopped diaz...
but there are some ?? here,imo...no?
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Too bad... :/
It's tough to say, Diaz looks not to hard to find and Pacman is a hard puncher.
If he cannot hurt him easily though, we might have a fight.
I rarely lay -400 -500 and I certainly wont do it in this fight....
It's tough to say, Diaz looks not to hard to find and Pacman is a hard puncher.
If he cannot hurt him easily though, we might have a fight.
I rarely lay -400 -500 and I certainly wont do it in this fight....
i`m still impressed with you going against the forum grain on abraham....
you probably knew him better than those of us on the other side of the pond....
was a bit of a kick in the nuts for me(not necessarily losing...but,losing like that!...getting crushed early)....again congrats...
Im not a fan of Diaz and i think he got a gift against a terribly unprepared Eric Morrales who if i recall had trouble making the higher weight in that fight.:shrug: Just hate this inflated line tho. I guess the lines makers are not fans of Diaz either. this is one case where a live dog in my mind is just a myth. You can make Pac a ten to 1 fav and i still wouldn't take Diaz.
I had a minor bet on leader after 3 rounds loses fight or draws.
Does anybody know what Ledermans scoring was after 3 rounds!?
Thanks!
Does anybody know what Ledermans scoring was after 3 rounds!?
Thanks!
