Boxing 6/7 - 6/10

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YTD Total: +1.40 units
1 unit plays: 5-3 -2.45
1/2 unit plays: 45-18 +0.30
Dogs: 28-39 +3.55



6/7 Parlay

Demetrius Hopkins -600 / Miguel Cotto -500...lay .6 to win .25 (winner)


6/9

Mendoza-Lopez Under 11.5 +145...lay .2 to win .30 (winner)


6/10

Kelley-Pacquiao Under 11.5 +173...lay .2 to win .35 (winner)

Kelley over Pacquiao +160...lay .15 to win .25 (loser)

Tsurkan over Camacho +200...lay .20 to win .40 (winner)

Tsurkan-Camacho Over 11.5 -240...lay .70 to win .30 (loser)


Tarver over Hopkins -210...lay 1.55 to win .75 (loser)

Hedge Hopkins in rounds 10-12 +2400...lay .15 to win 3.6 (loser)


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6/17 Wright-Taylor DRAW +1700...to win 1.7
7/15 Williams over Skelton -125...to win 1 unit
7/15 Skelton-Williams DRAW +2500...to win 2.5
7/22 Baldomir over Gatti +400...to win 1 unit
8/12 Maskaev over Rahman +298...to win 1 unit
8/19 Abraham over Miranda -250...to win 1/2 unit
 

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I bought myself out of Hopkins by decision hedge, it was posted in my futures for a while but I've since decided against it, I'll explain later.

Anyway, I had Hop by decision at +415 and now you can get NOT Hop by decision at -420 so there will be no juice lost on the buy back.

Hopkins in rounds 10-12 +2400 will be my only hedge

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Lopez-Mendoza Under 11.5 +145...lay .20 to win .30

Kelley-Paquiao Under 11.5 +173...lay .20 to win .35

Tsurkan over Camacho Jr +200...lay .20 to win .40


Tsurkan-Camacho Over 11.5 -240...lay .70 to win .30


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D. Hopkins stopped Warrick in the 8th round

It was a very close fight up to that point and Hopkins may have been behind on the cards. A huge Hopkins right hand left Warrick out cold on his feet., very brutal ko.

I had a small personal play on the under 9.5 at +230...got lucky tonight, I'll take it

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i think maybe that the under (11.5) in the pacquaio/kelley and lopez mendoza fights look interesting.....

pacquaio/kelly have been been stopped around 10 or 11 times between them...

kelley`s 38...and is still dangerous...pacquaio sets a very fast pace....

maybe kelly catches him early....maybe,at 38,pacquaio`s pace overwhelms kelly at some point...

kelly`s pace isn`t exactly overwhelming these days...but,he can still punch....

from what i`ve seen of pacquaio,even though he doesn`t have big power,he`s aggressive and persistent...

haven`t had a ton of time to look these over...

hopkins ain`t stopping tarver...so,maybe hedge tarver with hopkins by decision?...

how about the malignaggi 2 pm weigh-in deal?....

i read that cotto will be wearing wearing 8 ounce gloves as a middleweight by the time he hits the ring....cotto inside the distance at -140 as a decent hedge on malignaggi +350....

how can they justify that?...this sounds like gatti/gamache redux...
 
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Tarver-Hopkins

Tarver-Hopkins

............Age...Height...Reach...Stance...Weight

Tarver.....37......6'2"......75......Left.......175

Hopkins...41......6'1"......75.....Right.......160



Age...Tarver is a young 37 having only fought 27 professional fights in 9 years, most of the big ones were against light punchers...Jones, Harding, Johnson...fought each of them twice and Griffen once, not much punishment taken in any of those fights. Hopkins is an old 41 with 52 pro fights in 18 years, has fought plenty of big punchers...Taylor (twice), Echols (twice), Trinidad, Eastman...much more punishment taken by Hopkins over the years.


Height and Reach are about the same with a slight advantage to Tarver who's a little taller and longer.


Stance...Tarver shoots from the southpaw stance which gives him another advantage. Hopkins has fought several southpaws and has done well against them, BUT he looked horrible against R. Allen in their last fight. And Allen is only a 5'9" lefty.


Power...Tarver is one of the biggest punchers at 175, his punch will definitly hurt a guy coming up from 160 no matter how good his chin is. Hopkins was never a big puncher at 160, most of his ko's were late in the fight and he hasn't been stopping anyone lately, DLH was too small and hurt by a body shot. The extra muscle in this fight will make Hopkins stronger, but it won't make him hit harder, punching power is natural. Tarver can hurt Hopkins at any point of the fight, Hopkins can only hurt Tarver if he fades late.


Weight...Hopkins is basically a tall light-middle who's been fighting at middleweight his entire career. Don't believe me? He weighed in at 157 against Trinidad in 2001 and he weighed 156 against DLH in 2004...at 39 years old. So its fair to say that if Hopkins comes in at 175, he'll have gained almost 20 pounds of excess weight. Tarver on the other hand has always fought at 175 and has the frame to be a legit cruiserweight, he will obviously be the much bigger guy AND he'll be more comfortable at the weight. I think Hopkins would be wise not to go all the way up to 175, too many extra pounds, it will effect his speed and stamina for sure, esp at 41 years old.


Stamina...Tarver has been known to fade late in his fights, but always seems to finish. He will have to be completely exhausted for Hopkins to stop hiim, but thats not out of the question. As we all know, Tarver bulked up to 210 for the Rocky movie, gaining and then taking off 35 pounds in less than 6 months could be a factor late in this fight. Buddy McGirt says Tarver didn't do any lifting to gain the weight, just eating. He claims that since it was all fat, it was very easy to lose and hasn't bothered Tarver's training. Buddy said Tarver was at 179 two weeks out, and 176 one week out, still eating 3 times a day.

Hopkins had excellent stamina at 160, he stays very calm in the ring and doesn't waste many punches. However, he might have stamina issues in this fight for reasons already stated. Those 41 year old legs aren't used to carrying 15 extra pounds for 12 rounds, and those thin old arms aren't used to being full of muscle. Its one thing for a young fighter to gain weight and take on a bigger guy, its a whole different story when an old man gains alot of weight to fight a younger stronger fighter.


Strategy...Tarver claims he will stop Hopkins inside 5 rounds. I don't think he'll try to back those words up once the fight starts, but I do think he'll be agressive early as Hop is a slow starter. This strategy combined with the weight-loss could make Tarver relive his history of fading late in fights. Hopkins will most likely take the 1st half of the fight off, trying to take Tarver into the late rounds. It's a good strategy that might just work, but I think Hopkins will be tired himself after 9 rounds due to carrying the extra weight.


My thoughts...Can Hopkins really do more against Tarver than Glen Johnson did? Will he throw more punches...No. Will he hit harder...No. Will he be more aggresive...No. Hop will be smarter and quicker than Johnson, but will he be smarter and quicker than Roy Jones...No. Hopkins hasn't looked good in a long time, since his last fight with Allen it seems like he can't get off like he used to. He lost the first fight with Taylor b/c he didn't throw enough punches and waited too long to turn it up. Knowing what he had to do in the rematch he still wasn't busy enough early in the fight and was beat to the punch in the second half. Imo Taylor is not that good. DLH was beating Hop to the punch for the 1st half of the fight, before Hopkins' size took over. Hopkins best wins were against Trinidad and DLH, both were 147 lb. fighters moving up in weight.


Location...Atlantic City slightly favors Hopkins who is an East coast guy from Phili, not too far away.

Promotion...Joe DeGuardia is Tarver's promoter and is hosting this event, advantage Tarver

Trinkets...Tarver holds the belts, so Hopkins will have to take them away. Won't be easy with that very low workrate of his.



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Where did you play Paulie at +350?

Pinnacle +465....5dimes+415



As posted, I have a parlay riding on Cotto at -250, so I put a small personal hedge on Paulie by decision +606

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I like Paulie by UD or SD. Cotto is a welter and will be around 150 or more I'd say by fight time. Paulie has trouble cracking an egg, I know. But he sticks and moves and he can win here. A VERY small play for me as I don't love the matchup.
 

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it didn`t open high...it was as low as +295...

some friends think that paulie`s been protected and that his peeps are cashing in their tickets here.........that they don`t expect him to win.....

i don`t think it`s impossible for him to win...but,the extra time that cotto`s gonna get to put on weight after the weigh in ain`t helping things.....

i can`t see cotto sauntering around the ring after malignaggi....he`s gonna have to press and work.....and that`s not his modus operandi....

i`m curious to see what cotto enters the ring at....it may be closer to 160 than 150....

32 hours to rehydrate....

remember that going up to fight ruiz...then cutting all that weight to fight tarver was the beginning of the end for roy jones...

tarver cut an awful lot of weight to make 175...after going up to around 225 for that movie he made...

roy was never the same...

might be apples and oranges,though..tarver`s game ain`t quickness like roy`s was...

then again,hopkins isn`t the same fighter that he was...even 3 years ago..
 
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great breakdown of the strengths/weaknesses for the Tarver-Hopkins bout Box. I've been close to dropping the hammer on Tarver for most of the reasons you've outlined (naturally bigger and stronger, probably come in closer to 190) and it just seems like this will be an easy bout for him. The unknowns in this bout are what's keeping me from betting a big chunk -- how Tarver responds to the weight drop, his propensity to cruise, stamina, etc.

Still haven't decided on a play, but most likely it will be very small on Tarver inside the distance and a little more on Tarver to win.
 

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Over at Pinny, Tarver is now -300!. I will play Tarver inside for a few. Or maybe the under.
 

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Camacho Jr fight is no longer listed on the card at boxrec, and a few of the books have pulled the lines. I think the fight is cancelled, but I'll leave my plays up just in case

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the mendoza/lopez over looked promising...nice get.....good way to start a big night off...was riding along...

i had to sweat minto last night(parlay w/tarver)....if i had to do it again,i wouldn`t do it...batchelder had him missing constantly....

pretty close call...not really a smart play on my part...

the more i think about tarver/hopkins,i have real trouble picking bernard..his minimal workrate will drop even more with all that weight....

the only things that concern is that stupid $250,000 "inside 6" bet tarver made...and the weight yo-yo.....

let`s hope tarver doesn`t blow his wad early because of some stupid bet...

but, i`d like to see him him keep consistent pressure on bernard...not stand around head feinting and trying to be cerebral....

i`m certainly no big tarver fan,though...never believed he was even close to being "great"....
 
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Remember, when hopkins is an underdog he always tends to surprise people. Also, it should be known by you guys that Hopkins has the superior trainer. Tarver will have to put on his best performance in this fight, RJJ is a hell of a lot softer than Hopkins IMHO.

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