gardenweasel said:
It means they will offer live betting and reprice it in between rounds. Not sure why it is currently -105....something to do with just getting the 'text' info up on site. If you notice, the Max is $1.
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Boxing 7/12 - 7/16
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It means they will offer live betting and reprice it in between rounds. Not sure why it is currently -105....something to do with just getting the 'text' info up on site. If you notice, the Max is $1.
hey box, or anyone else, yall have any opinions on the 4.5 round TOTAL set on the Montiel vs Briceno bout?
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I posted a small play on the under 4.5 at +175, its at the bottom of my plays.
Its definitly not a lock, but Montiel is a big puncher and Briceno has been stopped before. He took this fight on late notice as a replacement for Morel and has never fought outside of Managua, Nicaragua.
This could go over, but I like the decent +money on Montiel making it a short night...small play only.
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I posted a small play on the under 4.5 at +175, its at the bottom of my plays.
Its definitly not a lock, but Montiel is a big puncher and Briceno has been stopped before. He took this fight on late notice as a replacement for Morel and has never fought outside of Managua, Nicaragua.
This could go over, but I like the decent +money on Montiel making it a short night...small play only.
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if you really like montiel/forrest.....and forrest seems to be in safe...although he`s been off since forever....you can add larios and move that 1 to win .25 to 1 to win .60....
unless his shoulder gives out...and even though mccullough hung tough the first time....he is 35...has had a ton of wars....and i just don`t know if mccullough has the pop to hurt larios...
larios may just stand in with mccullough and wear him down...he will throw a million punches....
even though one of the most durable guys around,mccullough isn`t a powerful guy...even at the lower weight...at what point does he start looking like ray oliveira?...hopefully not tonight...
the over i`ve liked all along...but for some reason,i`m getting a little worried...
not backing off on the over...it`s in parlay`s anyway....there`s to much history with mccullough`s durability....
i just hope it continues...
unless his shoulder gives out...and even though mccullough hung tough the first time....he is 35...has had a ton of wars....and i just don`t know if mccullough has the pop to hurt larios...
larios may just stand in with mccullough and wear him down...he will throw a million punches....
even though one of the most durable guys around,mccullough isn`t a powerful guy...even at the lower weight...at what point does he start looking like ray oliveira?...hopefully not tonight...
the over i`ve liked all along...but for some reason,i`m getting a little worried...
not backing off on the over...it`s in parlay`s anyway....there`s to much history with mccullough`s durability....
i just hope it continues...
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Looks like $$$ going on Briceno as Montiel down to -862 at Pinny. Is this considered a large move.....suspicious even?
Any KO before 4th round starts is a winner. Harold Letterman's scorecard official for grading purposes if fight completes 3 rounds.
Jul-16 791 HOPKINS SCORE END RND 3 -122
10:30 PM 792 TAYLOR SCORE END RND 3 +102
What do you guys think about this prop, Hopkins usually starts off slow
Jul-16 791 HOPKINS SCORE END RND 3 -122
10:30 PM 792 TAYLOR SCORE END RND 3 +102
What do you guys think about this prop, Hopkins usually starts off slow
Damn....Round 6 coming up and it looks like an even fight (Montiel-Briceno) so far.
If anybody doesn't know yet, Forrest was an EEEE...ZZZZ winna!
If anybody doesn't know yet, Forrest was an EEEE...ZZZZ winna!
The parlays cashed
Unfortunatly the under didn't, but I had more on the parlays
alb, I thought Montiel won the first 6 rounds, Briceno was coming forward and throwing a lot of punches but Montiel was countering the sh*t out of him.
I was a little worried that Montiel would run out of gas in the late rounds after gaining so much weight in 24 hours. He slowed down and let Briceno win a few of the later rounds, but talent wise Montiel is in another class.
Looking good so far
Unfortunatly the under didn't, but I had more on the parlays
alb, I thought Montiel won the first 6 rounds, Briceno was coming forward and throwing a lot of punches but Montiel was countering the sh*t out of him.
I was a little worried that Montiel would run out of gas in the late rounds after gaining so much weight in 24 hours. He slowed down and let Briceno win a few of the later rounds, but talent wise Montiel is in another class.
Looking good so far
Larios has a cut over both eyes
Neither are real bad, but they could get worse
Let the sweating and pacing begin...
Neither are real bad, but they could get worse
Let the sweating and pacing begin...
"""if there`s one guy with the skill...the raw material to beat hopkins...it`s taylor...this could be so much more difficult for hopkins than anything he`s seen in years...
i`ll take taylor to be ahead after 6...and hopkins to come on down the stretch...
anyplace you can bet the fight by halves?... lol
why throw money at it...i can`t...
balls to the wall,hopkins figures a way to get it done...but,he`s in tough here...as tough as he`s been in since roy jones...unless taylor gets intimidated...or loses focus...
i`ll play bernard small....because he`s bernard.....small,because i think taylor`s physical skills are as good as most anybody in boxing......and bernard`s skills and speed may have deteriorated a bit....and he is 40..
mayorga...you have real balls to bet that kind of money...
unless taylor is already psyched out..or mentally whipped...this will be hard for bernard...very hard...
this is a dangerous fight,imo"""..
well,that`s pretty much how it played out....hopkins sleepwalking through closer to 8 or 9 rather than 6....and taking over late....
hopkins did more damage...the rounds he won...down the stretch...were more convincing.....but he forgot that the fight is scored by rounds...
it was still very close...if it had gone hopkins` way,i doubt anybody could bitch much....
i`m surprised that b-hop let himself get so far behind..taylor was wide with his shots...wild in many instances....
father time is catching up a little...the younger bernard would have made taylor pay dearly....
still shocked that given his last 2 performances...and the age....and taylor`s speed and skill,that people were saying that taylor didn`t belong in the same ring with hopkins....
go figure...
btw...it was sad to see wayne mccullough hit the wall tonight....larios looked 2 weight classes bigger than him...those body shots larios laid on him were withering...
the guy`s a gamer...glad he didn`t get hurt...
i`ll take taylor to be ahead after 6...and hopkins to come on down the stretch...
anyplace you can bet the fight by halves?... lol
why throw money at it...i can`t...
balls to the wall,hopkins figures a way to get it done...but,he`s in tough here...as tough as he`s been in since roy jones...unless taylor gets intimidated...or loses focus...
i`ll play bernard small....because he`s bernard.....small,because i think taylor`s physical skills are as good as most anybody in boxing......and bernard`s skills and speed may have deteriorated a bit....and he is 40..
mayorga...you have real balls to bet that kind of money...
unless taylor is already psyched out..or mentally whipped...this will be hard for bernard...very hard...
this is a dangerous fight,imo"""..
well,that`s pretty much how it played out....hopkins sleepwalking through closer to 8 or 9 rather than 6....and taking over late....
hopkins did more damage...the rounds he won...down the stretch...were more convincing.....but he forgot that the fight is scored by rounds...
it was still very close...if it had gone hopkins` way,i doubt anybody could bitch much....
i`m surprised that b-hop let himself get so far behind..taylor was wide with his shots...wild in many instances....
father time is catching up a little...the younger bernard would have made taylor pay dearly....
still shocked that given his last 2 performances...and the age....and taylor`s speed and skill,that people were saying that taylor didn`t belong in the same ring with hopkins....
go figure...
btw...it was sad to see wayne mccullough hit the wall tonight....larios looked 2 weight classes bigger than him...those body shots larios laid on him were withering...
the guy`s a gamer...glad he didn`t get hurt...
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Extremely Disappointing Weekend
Extremely Disappointing Weekend
Started off the week very strong, hitting most of my small plays, then McCollough blows my big play to cancel out a good week of capping.
Didn't really care what happened in the Hopkins-Taylor fight, played it very small. If McCollough goes the distance, it would've been a huge week regardless.
As far as the fights go...
I agree with the stoppage in the Larios fight, Wayne was getting the sh*t kicked out of him and his punches had nothing on them, he didn't need to take any more punishment. If they allowed the fight to continue, Wayne would've gone the distance like I figured he would, but he could have suffered permanent damage in doing so. I can't believe how bad Wayne looked last night compared to 5 months ago. He fought very well in the first fight and he was supposed to be in better shape, better prepared, and less rusty for this one...WTF happened? Perhaps Larios wasn't right in the first fight, I know his shoulder was bothering him but it didn't keep him from throwing a thousand punches as usual. Maybe Wayne just got old in the last 5 months and all the wars finally caught up with him. Probably a combination of both.
Obviously Hopkins wasn't busy enough in the first half of the fight, and it cost him. Not sure how the deciding judge had the last round scored for Taylor but Hopkins shouldn't have let it come down to the last round needing a draw anyway. Taylor wasn't real impressive, but he did enough to win, congrats to him and all backers.
Like I said a few times, this fight had too many variables that may or may not effect the outcome, which is why I played it small. I also said a few times that Hopkins hasn't looked good in his last 3 fights. I played Eastman over Hopkins at +500 b/c of the way Hop looked against DLH and Allen in his 2 previous fights. But I played Hop small in this fight strictly b/c of his experience in big fights and ring smarts. He just didn't do enough in the first half of the fight, as usual.
Can't wait to see the line on the rematch
I'll go out on a limb and predict...
Taylor -170
Hopkins +150
or maybe
Taylor -150
Hopkins +130
Extremely Disappointing Weekend
Started off the week very strong, hitting most of my small plays, then McCollough blows my big play to cancel out a good week of capping.
Didn't really care what happened in the Hopkins-Taylor fight, played it very small. If McCollough goes the distance, it would've been a huge week regardless.
As far as the fights go...
I agree with the stoppage in the Larios fight, Wayne was getting the sh*t kicked out of him and his punches had nothing on them, he didn't need to take any more punishment. If they allowed the fight to continue, Wayne would've gone the distance like I figured he would, but he could have suffered permanent damage in doing so. I can't believe how bad Wayne looked last night compared to 5 months ago. He fought very well in the first fight and he was supposed to be in better shape, better prepared, and less rusty for this one...WTF happened? Perhaps Larios wasn't right in the first fight, I know his shoulder was bothering him but it didn't keep him from throwing a thousand punches as usual. Maybe Wayne just got old in the last 5 months and all the wars finally caught up with him. Probably a combination of both.
Obviously Hopkins wasn't busy enough in the first half of the fight, and it cost him. Not sure how the deciding judge had the last round scored for Taylor but Hopkins shouldn't have let it come down to the last round needing a draw anyway. Taylor wasn't real impressive, but he did enough to win, congrats to him and all backers.
Like I said a few times, this fight had too many variables that may or may not effect the outcome, which is why I played it small. I also said a few times that Hopkins hasn't looked good in his last 3 fights. I played Eastman over Hopkins at +500 b/c of the way Hop looked against DLH and Allen in his 2 previous fights. But I played Hop small in this fight strictly b/c of his experience in big fights and ring smarts. He just didn't do enough in the first half of the fight, as usual.
Can't wait to see the line on the rematch
I'll go out on a limb and predict...
Taylor -170
Hopkins +150
or maybe
Taylor -150
Hopkins +130
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i don`t see...logically....how anyone could have predicted that mccullough doesn`t finish...unless they were nostradamus.....or had inside info...and we can all guess when a guy`s time comes....nobody knows for sure....and i doubt that roach puts mccullough in there for 50 grand if he suspects that wayne is shot...
the guy wanted the fight...50 grand isn`t changing his life...
the beatings just caught up to him...much like oliveira...shit happens....
doesn`t mean it was a bad wager..
and as you said,the hopkins fight was a tough call...very smart to keep it small....
the judge that had 12 for taylor?.....must have been on an ether binge...
could have gone either way...
that`s boxing...and gambling...
both wagers could easily have swung the other way...
the guy wanted the fight...50 grand isn`t changing his life...
the beatings just caught up to him...much like oliveira...shit happens....
doesn`t mean it was a bad wager..
and as you said,the hopkins fight was a tough call...very smart to keep it small....
the judge that had 12 for taylor?.....must have been on an ether binge...
could have gone either way...
that`s boxing...and gambling...
both wagers could easily have swung the other way...
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Taylor at -150 is a steal, and at -170 a solid play. He is getting better, while Bernard is aging before our very eyes.
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mccullough took a lot of punches in the first fight, but always came back. the argument could be that Larios hurt his hand in the first fight, which kept him from putting more into trying to finish Mccullough off.
I picked up .5 unit on the over in the nolasco/litzau fight
I also had won with Taylor .3 units by having him to win by decision, of course the over on Larios/Mccullough cancelled that .3 out.
good luck this week guys, is anybody even fighting ?
I picked up .5 unit on the over in the nolasco/litzau fight
I also had won with Taylor .3 units by having him to win by decision, of course the over on Larios/Mccullough cancelled that .3 out.
good luck this week guys, is anybody even fighting ?
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as for a hopkins-taylor rematch. I would go with Hopkins
I was surprised Hopkins tried to box. He brawled with Joppy not to long ago. He should have treated Taylor like he did Keith Holmes. give him a mugging. maybe Taylor was too strong, at least early. but if Bernard comes out more aggresive next time, he can win the fight. not sure how Taylor would improve.
I was surprised Hopkins tried to box. He brawled with Joppy not to long ago. He should have treated Taylor like he did Keith Holmes. give him a mugging. maybe Taylor was too strong, at least early. but if Bernard comes out more aggresive next time, he can win the fight. not sure how Taylor would improve.
