Boxing 9/15 - 9/19
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Have their arses fired so they can stop Fuking up our sport!!!!
No wonder boxing is no longer main event status.
Give a monkey a gun and it blows your Fukin toes off, you don't blame the monkey!!!
Where the Fuk are the commisions during these shit fest decisions.
No one cares, Paul
No one cares, Paul
The trouble is, Paul, no one gives a fcuk. This is why sports editors of the big North American daily papers don't like boxing. They see these obviously wrong scorecards as part of what they see as corruption in boxing. To me, the Dorsett card in the Sylvester fight looks particularly bad (U.S. judge scoring wide for the U.S. promoted fighter).
In Las Vegas, when Marc Ratner was in charge of the commission, that Wisconsin judge, Mike Fitzgerald, would never be allowed back. Ratner's successor as commission chief, Keith Kizer, isn't anywhere near Ratner's level in knowledge of boxing and/or the boxing industry, but even under Kizer I doubt if Fitzgerald will be allowed to judge in Nevada again.
Can you imagine what would happen in ANY other sport, Paul, if these blatantly wrong decisions were handed down? If, say, in high-platform diving, if four judges held up a 9.5 score and the fifth judge held up a 2.5? Obviously, the "2.5" judge would get crossed off the judges' panel or given a lengthy suspension. In boxing, though, this simply doesn't happen.
Again, if a fight goes to the cards these days you have to hold your breath, because if it's even a REASONABLY competitive fight there is a very good chance that at least one judge will turn in a hopelessly wrong score.
No one cares, Paul
Have their arses fired so they can stop Fuking up our sport!!!!
No wonder boxing is no longer main event status.
Give a monkey a gun and it blows your Fukin toes off, you don't blame the monkey!!!
Where the Fuk are the commisions during these shit fest decisions.
The trouble is, Paul, no one gives a fcuk. This is why sports editors of the big North American daily papers don't like boxing. They see these obviously wrong scorecards as part of what they see as corruption in boxing. To me, the Dorsett card in the Sylvester fight looks particularly bad (U.S. judge scoring wide for the U.S. promoted fighter).
In Las Vegas, when Marc Ratner was in charge of the commission, that Wisconsin judge, Mike Fitzgerald, would never be allowed back. Ratner's successor as commission chief, Keith Kizer, isn't anywhere near Ratner's level in knowledge of boxing and/or the boxing industry, but even under Kizer I doubt if Fitzgerald will be allowed to judge in Nevada again.
Can you imagine what would happen in ANY other sport, Paul, if these blatantly wrong decisions were handed down? If, say, in high-platform diving, if four judges held up a 9.5 score and the fifth judge held up a 2.5? Obviously, the "2.5" judge would get crossed off the judges' panel or given a lengthy suspension. In boxing, though, this simply doesn't happen.
Again, if a fight goes to the cards these days you have to hold your breath, because if it's even a REASONABLY competitive fight there is a very good chance that at least one judge will turn in a hopelessly wrong score.
Have their arses fired so they can stop Fuking up our sport!!!!
No wonder boxing is no longer main event status.
Give a monkey a gun and it blows your Fukin toes off, you don't blame the monkey!!!
Where the Fuk are the commisions during these shit fest decisions.
Boxing is inherantly corrupt just as religion and politics are. Not likely to change because the powers that be don't want it to change...promotors, commissions, alphabet orgs, tv networks, etc. These groups all work in collusion and there is BIG money to be had. No question in my mind that commissions, refs and judges get paid off by the promotors to turn a blind eye to many things. If a fight can bring in millions to a local area then it would behoove the commission to cooperate with the promotion, if not only for their sake but for the sake of the local economy(Vegas was packed this week). Nobody is preventing that promotor from taking that big fight to another city. IMO the Nevada commission should investigate the judge that scored for Esco but then Oscar might say ok fine, the next big fight is going to Atlantic City. That's a gloomy picture of things but I honestly feel that's the way it works. The fighter is obviously the biggest loser due to this then the paying fan and us bettors. As Graham alluded too, the astute gambler should be aware of this and it should play into the wager.
Agree about Ratner. Guy was a high-line pro all the way. I was working with some guys at the local Boys And Girls club coaching kids basketball in Vegas a while back and Ratner shows up to see what we were doing and what was going on in town. Guy was all over the place. The best.
I agree with both of you Graham and Romi.
Boxing has alway's been corrupt but with the advent of MMA, I don't think it can afford to be.
There is now another combat sport in town that is growing stronger by the minute and I don't want to see the sport I have loved since childhood fall off the map and I think that is the direction it is heading.
Boxers need to start fighting more than once a year and fighting the best opponents. Corruption, or worse, incompetence needs to be halted at the source or boxing will fall off the map.
Once boxing has been bled dry, these same leech cocksuckers will start to infest MMA.
Boxing has alway's been corrupt but with the advent of MMA, I don't think it can afford to be.
There is now another combat sport in town that is growing stronger by the minute and I don't want to see the sport I have loved since childhood fall off the map and I think that is the direction it is heading.
Boxers need to start fighting more than once a year and fighting the best opponents. Corruption, or worse, incompetence needs to be halted at the source or boxing will fall off the map.
Once boxing has been bled dry, these same leech cocksuckers will start to infest MMA.
That's your entire contribution to the boxing thread??? It's called a FORUM and an opinion and it's just an opinion. If It offended you in some way then tough shit. Trust me, I wouldn't want a pathetic mindless degenerate drive by posting douchebag like you, to like me. So fck you and the horse you rode in on. :thefinger :thefinger :thefinger
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Reason for late betting on Juarez
Reason for late betting on Juarez
The late money pouring in on Rocky Juarez was because Jim Watt, the analyst for Sky TV in Britain (which carried the fight live; the Sky team was ringside in Vegas) had it a desperately close fight with Juarez just one point behind going into the last round. The players plunging on Rocky must have been watching the Sky telecast and were "guided" by Watt's scoring. That is the only possible explanation for the turnaround in the odds. U.K. sources tell me that, believe it or not, Watt had the last round 10-10 (probably because he realised too late he was scoring the fight wrongly and didn't want to look ridiculous by having Juarez winning the fight).
This tends to bear out what I always say regarding so-called controversial decisions such as Diaz versus Malignaggi: the vast majority of viewers are influenced by the TV commentary.
Reason for late betting on Juarez
The late money pouring in on Rocky Juarez was because Jim Watt, the analyst for Sky TV in Britain (which carried the fight live; the Sky team was ringside in Vegas) had it a desperately close fight with Juarez just one point behind going into the last round. The players plunging on Rocky must have been watching the Sky telecast and were "guided" by Watt's scoring. That is the only possible explanation for the turnaround in the odds. U.K. sources tell me that, believe it or not, Watt had the last round 10-10 (probably because he realised too late he was scoring the fight wrongly and didn't want to look ridiculous by having Juarez winning the fight).
This tends to bear out what I always say regarding so-called controversial decisions such as Diaz versus Malignaggi: the vast majority of viewers are influenced by the TV commentary.
I could'nt agree more. It's best to watch the fights with the sound muted. It's a completely different experience.
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Interesting Article on the Mayweather fight being shown in movie theaters this past weekend. Nice alternative to shelling out the 50 bucks.
http://theboxingbulletin.blogspot.com/2009/09/mayweather-vs-marquez-big-screen.html
http://theboxingbulletin.blogspot.com/2009/09/mayweather-vs-marquez-big-screen.html
Congrats to the guys that were watching it live and able to get their bets in on John ! I couldn't figure out what was going on. It's funny how Jim Watt (an ex lightwt champion) had this completely wrong and many in the media constantly get harped on because they never laced them up. It's always nice to hear from someone who has been there but theres no guarantee they always know what they're talking about. I liked Foreman on HBO but more so for entertainment value than for his analysis which at times could be flat out bizarre.
