Brittney Griner Debacle

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Yeah, since the American flag and the National Anthem are so symbolic of the police. Makes sense.

They are supposed symbols of freedom. Many in the black community perceive that freedom as an illusion. Now, you can say that many people make their own trouble, and I would agree. Griner fits that bill, IMO.

Frankly, I'm tired of all the old excuses. "Because I'm black/gay/female", etc.

Why can't you just admit you're a fuckup?
 

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I hate it that you love police killing black people, but I guess it is how you were raised.

Black men while making up 6% of the population commit 52% of the murders….per DOJ statistics .
Police are 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.
Every 14 hours a black is murdered by another black in Chicago. Maybe you and Griner can take a knee to protest that travesty.
 

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Black men while making up 6% of the population commit 52% of the murders per DOJ statistics .

Uneducated people like you try to use data from government sources tthat YOU THINK no one will fact check.....and here, you made it up or got it from Skullnik.

People like you also shit their pants when someone actually goes to the website and screenshots the data you are "trying" to use. Like this.

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Oops, Susie. You just fucked up. And you just got fucking owned.
Maybe you and Homedog can go camping in your 5th wheel and.....I don't know....maybe take the pontoon out.

And Jesus......you even got this wrong....

In 2020, the Black or African American alone population (41.1 million) accounted for 12.4% of all people living in the United States.

My bet is, you will try and justify it and say some left-wing political front changed the data. :mj07:
 

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Fact Check This Joker....Over 70% of African-American children in the USA are born out of wedlock. This is a problem that hurts any race but especially the Black Communities.
 

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Fact Check This Joker....Over 70% of African-American children in the USA are born out of wedlock. This is a problem that hurts any race but especially the Black Communities.

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Uneducated people like you try to use data from government sources tthat YOU THINK no one will fact check.....and here, you made it up or got it from Skullnik.

People like you also shit their pants when someone actually goes to the website and screenshots the data you are "trying" to use. Like this.

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Oops, Susie. You just fucked up. And you just got fucking owned.
Maybe you and Homedog can go camping in your 5th wheel and.....I don't know....maybe take the pontoon out.

And Jesus......you even got this wrong....

In 2020, the Black or African American alone population (41.1 million) accounted for 12.4% of all people living in the United States.

My bet is, you will try and justify it and say some left-wing political front changed the data. :mj07:

Please forgive my reading comprehension but I can’t seem to see where this chart [who knows where you found it}disputes anything I posted. On the contrary it shows that blacks committed 5660 murders versus 5070[ by whites and Latinos}. Thanks for proving my point. If you reread my post it says black men make up 6% of population. Your chart says nothing about black men. As for having a lack of education…you got me. I have no doubt that Duke University and MIT are way below any hallowed halls you attended. Don’t fret. I have a feeling small nuts and his ass kissing sidekick will be here soon to give you comfort and take up for you.
 
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One more question. I know she's claiming that if she was Lebron, she would've been home by now.

But, I wonder........If she was just an average US citizen over there, would we even know about this situation?
 

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Surely she knew the laws in the country. I hope they make a prisoner trade but I think she needs to find a different country to play off season B Ball. Amsterdam might be a good city for her next team.
 
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Please forgive my reading comprehension but I can’t seem to see where this chart [who knows where you found it}disputes anything I posted. On the contrary it shows that blacks committed 5660 murders versus 5070[ by whites and Latinos}. Thanks for proving my point. If you reread my post it says black men make up 6% of population. Your chart says nothing about black men. As for having a lack of education…you got me. I have no doubt that Duke University and MIT are way below any hallowed halls you attended. Don’t fret. I have a feeling small nuts and his ass kissing sidekick will be here soon to give you comfort and take up for you.

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All of the excuses are horribly lame. We’ve all read the same stuff. It’s because she’s black, it’s because she’s gay, it’s because she’s a woman. Laughable. As YYZ mentioned, turning this into a referendum on pay quality is absurd. Obviously TV rights and other factors pushed by public interest drive the WNBA pay scale.

Hopefully she’s being treated humanely, but I’m guessing her sentence is going to be near that ten-year maximum. This was an enormous error in judgment by Ms Griner. you won’t find anyone that’s more procannabis than I am, but crossing international borders with it is insane And even more so in an actual fascist country. I know extreme leftist throw around fascist loosely in reference to the good old USA, but That has a lot to do with us being spoiled as a people.

As to her kneeling and now wanting help, im fine with that. I wouldn’t kneel, but it’s her right. I don’t think there’s an issue with exercising your right to protest, and the same goes even if I don’t believe in your cause. Her kneeling certainly can subject her to disciplinary action from the company she works for, but not from the United States government based on freedom of speech.

I certainly want her and every American detained overseas to be home safely as soon as possible, but let’s not engage in one-sided prisoner swaps. If we have an athlete or a Russian national incarcerated over petty crime, Then let’s make a deal. But I don’t stand behind ‘trading’ her for a dangerous criminal.
 
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Uneducated people like you try to use data from government sources tthat YOU THINK no one will fact check.....and here, you made it up or got it from Skullnik.

People like you also shit their pants when someone actually goes to the website and screenshots the data you are "trying" to use. Like this.

<blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/6V7v3Qc" data-context="false" ><a href="//imgur.com/a/6V7v3Qc"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Oops, Susie. You just fucked up. And you just got fucking owned.
Maybe you and Homedog can go camping in your 5th wheel and.....I don't know....maybe take the pontoon out.

And Jesus......you even got this wrong....

In 2020, the Black or African American alone population (41.1 million) accounted for 12.4% of all people living in the United States.

My bet is, you will try and justify it and say some left-wing political front changed the data. :mj07:

This tangent is off-topic, but I thought I’d respond. I understand that you are not fond of Lowell, but the statistic he quoted are relatively accurate and you just verified it with that table. First, he didn’t say all Black people commit 52% of the murders, he said all black men, who encompass roughly 6% of the population, Commit 52% of murders

I don’t know what his point is, but I will say that while I don’t believe black men are inherently murderous, I can’t deny facts and statistics. I’ve sat through many sociology courses at LSU in which The incredible gap in murder rate was attributed to poverty, family structure( or lack there of), level of education and cultural differences— which are At least partly formed by a wet difficult climate for that race post Jim Crow.

None of those reasons excuse 6% of the population (black male) committing well over half of the murders, But it does help explain it. By looking at it this way, maybe you won’t be as offended when someone with a opposing political and sociological viewpoints presents accurate statistics

One thing that I find odd these days is that police shootings and the horribly gut wrenchingly tragic school shootings receive so much more press than the epidemic of inner-city violence. While the insanely disturbing tragedies at the schools are unbelievably difficult to accept, (each time that I read about one I can’t help but cry knowing that folks dropped off their kids at school one morning never to see that child’s smile again), It seems far fewer of us consider the families torn apart by daily urban violence. I can’t help but think the national press does this for political reasons, but also cannot deny that loss of school children’s lives ( and police brutality) are going to Garner more attention, more views, more clicks and that’s more money.

But again, when you look at the statistics, in the millions of police encounters there is a minute rate of deaths of suspects at their hands and School shootings account for a minuscule rate of national murders. So while both of those are egregious and extremely difficult to swallow, I would think that many socially aware folks, like yourself,might focus some attention on the epidemic of young black men killing young black men.
 
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One thing that I find odd these days is that police shootings and the horribly gut wrenchingly tragic school shootings receive so much more press than the epidemic of inner-city violence. While the insanely disturbing tragedies at the schools are unbelievably difficult to accept, (each time that I read about one I can’t help but cry knowing that folks dropped off their kids at school one morning never to see that child’s smile again), It seems far fewer of us consider the families torn apart by daily urban violence. I can’t help but think the national press does this for political reasons, but also cannot deny that loss of school children’s lives ( and police brutality) are going to Garner more attention, more views, more clicks and that’s more money.

But again, when you look at the statistics, in the millions of police encounters there is a minute rate of deaths of suspects at their hands and School shootings account for a minuscule rate of national murders. So while both of those are egregious and extremely difficult to swallow, I would think that many socially aware folks, like yourself,might focus some attention on the epidemic of young black men killing young black men.

Criminals killing criminals isn't really covered because of the volume and a general lack of appeal to the general public. There's over 10,000 murders in the US every year. How do you cover that? The answer is, you don't. You cover the ones that impact people emotionally, like causing a viewer to cry. The ones people can identify with or can picture themselves getting caught up in as part of their daily lives get people's attention. You can try to make yourself a political victim in this but this not a conspiracy.
 

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Criminals killing criminals isn't really covered because of the volume and a general lack of appeal to the general public. There's over 10,000 murders in the US every year. How do you cover that? The answer is, you don't. You cover the ones that impact people emotionally, like causing a viewer to cry. The ones people can identify with or can picture themselves getting caught up in as part of their daily lives get people's attention. You can try to make yourself a political victim in this but this not a conspiracy.

I know that I personally am not a victim In any regard. Brown man in the deep south with no restrictions With how high I can take it and how well I can live. even though I see a majority of the media leaning heavily in one direction, and a good portion of the rest of the media leaning heavily towards the other, I’m not remotely affected. I like to exchange thoughts and ideas on these matters, but none of them affect my happiness or restrict me in any way.

I agree that Media needs to push these other tragedies because Most, Including the virtue signalers, don’t really care what happens in the inner city. News media is a business, so they Have a right to maximize profits.
 

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The Chicago shootings only get ink from right wing outlets, in hope of showing the hypocrisy of the left. (IMO)

To think the Right gives a shit about those deaths is a joke.

White America hears "Chicago shootings", and they see black faces. Ergo, they don't care.
 

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Oh, and how many fans of Brittney have ever heard of Paul Whelan? Are they pulling for his release?
 

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The Chicago shootings only get ink from right wing outlets, in hope of showing the hypocrisy of the left. (IMO)

To think the Right gives a shit about those deaths is a joke.

White America hears "Chicago shootings", and they see black faces. Ergo, they don't care.

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Oh, and how many fans of Brittney have ever heard of Paul Whelan? Are they pulling for his release?

Straight White male and ex-military, so they’re actually cool with his 16 year sentence for alleged crimes to which he pled not guilty.
 

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The Chicago shootings only get ink from right wing outlets, in hope of showing the hypocrisy of the left. (IMO)

To think the Right gives a shit about those deaths is a joke.

White America hears "Chicago shootings", and they see black faces. Ergo, they don't care.

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