car opinions......

[dr. freeze]

with all my gambling winnings.....lol.....I am gonna go buy a car here soon......and I was wondering if anyone had the time to give me some help.....

couple of questions......

how much typically -- on a used one -- can you haggle off the sticker price?

also I am gonna spend about 10$ -- what are the best values for that? -- that is after I have done the negotiating

SUV's -- what is the best -- year and model that I can do for 10$?

thanks.......i am pretty ignorant as far as cars go and need some help......

 

[THE KOD]

Dr

If thats ten bucks you can get a bus token and a haircut. If that is 10 k now we are talking. Used cars sold in the paper are almost always about a grand high so you have that much to negotiate. Used cars in a dealer they dont haggle they just go ahead and screw you where you sit.

For ten k you can get a excellant running car in the 1995-on range. alot of SUVs around for that also.

Ford truck chevy car is what my grandfather always told me.

Scott-Atlanta


Get yourself in position to win, then pull the trigger

 

[The Big Tease]

yo freeze...i am a sales rep for a national bank, if you have any particular questions, i am sure i can answer them, just lemme know

 

[admin]

get yourself a reliable car like a toyota camry. you should be able to get a fairly low mile 1999 for around 10K. it's what my wife drives and the damn thing is nice, reliable, fast, well made and it'll last forever. well, until my kid gets it next year

i found one on ebay that's already sold but it will give you an idea.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600284677

 

[dr. freeze]

thanks guys......i am looking at a camry's actually too.....been reading a site from money mag. about buying cars and think i am gonna go get a pre-approved loan first which i guess gives a little more buying power......i am real interested in knowing how much you can get off a sticker price too......this is sortta like gambling.....more info you have, the better you will do.....lol

 

[hellah10]

make sure ya get some rims too!

 

[Bluemound Freak]

Freeze, I work on Cars for a living ( well I don't actually "work" on them but I own a repair shop, kind of like a Auto Dr. ) and I'll say this! Out of all the cars I run through my shop ( I'd say average 35-45 per week ) I work on less Toyota Camry's, Honda Accords, BMW's, and Nissan Maxima's than anything else. Let's tell you what I do work on every damn day. GM Trucks, these things keep me in business! Here is a list of don't buys

Ford Probe
GM truck or SUV ( easy to work on and cheap to work on but the Tranny's suck )
Anything with a turbo ( untill you can buy a brand new one and get a warranty )
Ford Taurus
Late Model Grand Prix ( 97-up )
Any car at a car lot that is sold As-is! If they won't give you at least 30 days to tell if it's shit then don't buy it!!!! It will cost you money!

Last thing, If the salesman pats you on the back and calls you buddy, Run like hell, he has no vaseline or KY in his pocket and when he gets done with you you'll be his bitch! Just a tip.

 

[Simply In The Red]

Bluemond is right. Being in the car biz myself, I tell you to go with a Honda Accord. They usually won't to you wrong unless abused by the previous owner.

 

[kneifl]

It appears you and I are in the same situation Freeze

It appears you and I are in the same situation Freeze

I have a 1992 Honda Accord with 150K miles on it that has pretty much kicked the bucket, since then I have been driving around a Jaguar which is pretty much on loan from my father.

Also I have about 10$ to spend on a car, thousand that is lol..... I have been looking at Mitsubishi Galants, Toyota Camry's, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Honda Accord, and a lot of other types of cars. No SUV's for me though, I have learned over the years that they are nice but cost more to maintain.

Great subject here....

kneifl

 

[Bluemound Freak]

kneifl, I forgot to mention Mitsubishi Autos, They seem to have a problem with there mid to late 90's model vehicles electronics. I have done alot of Vehicle Computer replacements on them, just a thought!

 

[nhl8810]

Freeze... I have a 97 nissian maxima and it is a great car.. good power and very relieble. If you change the oil every 3k will run forever..At least that as been my experiance. Good luck in your venture

 

[JSMOOTH]

BUY AMERICAN

BUY AMERICAN

I will never figure out why people will support the foreign auto market! Some say that American auto's keep mechanics in business. Maybe that's true, but if you keep it maintained....change the oil, get a tune-up, and don't be driving it like a 16 year old who just got his license...then that will help.

Go ahead, get something foreign, if you prefer....I'm sure the Japs or Koreans will appreciate you putting more sushi and cat meat on their dinner tables.

 

[dr. freeze]

i would like to buy american Jsmooth but Americans spend more money with their unions than they do building a better car.......until that changes, i will go with quality.......unions are unAmerican in my book and all it does is create problems and lower productivity, raise prices, and lower quality.......perfect example = U.S. car industry

 

[JSMOOTH]

i would like to buy american Jsmooth but Americans spend more money with their unions than they do building a better car.......until that changes, i will go with quality.......unions are unAmerican in my book and all it does is create problems and lower productivity, raise prices, and lower quality.......perfect example = U.S. car industry

Wow...powerful statement! Especially about unions being UNAMERICAN.

Let me tell you this....Only .50 cents of my wages go towards the price the car. .50 cents per employee, so in my particular shop, that equals around 600.00 of employees wages is going on the sticker price.

Unions create problems? It's obvious you've never been in one. (Aren't you in med school?) Unions actually alleviate the problems that the over-paid management creates. (I just love when some pimply faced college kid try's to tell me how to do my job better when he's never had a tool in his hand).

I could go on and on and on, but if you feel that way, then I certainly am not gonna change your mind. Like I said....go ahead and support the foreign market....soon, the auto market (and alot of other things) are all gonna go down the tubes...much the steel indusrty.....

But, the Japanese will all be living very fat.

BTW- my brother-in-law manages a foreign car lot in Florida. When he comes to visit.....he has to park on the street!

 

[Bluemound Freak]

I know that the American Car industry is a touchy subject for foreign vehicle owners, but the last time I check Honda Accords were made in Ohio!

 

[dr. freeze]

JSMOOTH

JSMOOTH

yeah and I will have to be in a union to practice too and i hate that fact........

i am not telling you how to do your job, only telling you that the unions are bad for us......and do everything that I described.....you would make more money if your union did not exist and the money used to fund the union was put into innovation, which woudl make more people buy the cars you produce, and subsequently make everyone more money........

also "management" is not the evil guy.......management is what most people aspire to be once the achieve success......management is what we all shoot for......where the big bucks are......and with the means of communication we have today, poor management does not need a union to expose it.....poor management, and the company runs down, and management gets canned.......

 

[dr. freeze]

FWIW unions in american medicine allow poor doctors to hide behind them and not get their license taken away.....that is my stance on that and i will soon be a member of this joke of a union.....it promotes mediocrity

 

[JSMOOTH]

Freeze,
I wasn't trying to imply that you were telling me how to do my job. Don't take offense....I don't hate people that own foreign cars, I just don't like the fact that people support foreign markets. I would in no-freakin-way, make more money without my union. That is the funniest thing I've heard. Medical Unions and the UAW must be worlds apart. Without my Union, we'd be working like the Mexicans in the auto indusrtry.

Bluemond,
Many foreign brand cars are "assembled" in the states. But every peice of steel, metal or trim is coming in on a barge.

The increasing globalization of U.S. corporations gives them the leverage to hold down wages and resist unionization. Average real wages (corrected for inflation) have been falling since the early 1970s. By 1992, average weekly earnings in the private, non-agricultural part of the U.S. economy were 19 percent below their peak in the early 1970s. Nearly one-fourth of the U.S. workforce now earns less in real terms than the 1968 minimum wage! The trend toward less unionization is evident in , which shows a steady decline in union membership since the 1950s. This is a chicken-and-egg relationship because weaker unions are less able to restrict corporate behavior and the resulting freedom of action for global corporations means unions will be weakened further by companies putting their workers here in competition with low-paid workers abroad.

Like I said, I don't hate people who own foreign vehicles...(i don't understand them either), but I do stand up for what I believe in!

 

[JSMOOTH]

Re: JSMOOTH

Re: JSMOOTH

yeah and I will have to be in a union to practice too and i hate that fact........

You don't have to be in the union if you don't want to. I can't think of it off hand, but there is a new law (1998?) that states anyone who wishes not to organize with their union doesn't have to. Just don't expect the any of the privalges afforded by your union.

If you like, I could do some research on this and find it for you. Then you wouldn't have to join.

 

[g-hawg]

Good Doctor

Good Doctor

I really must respond to the statement that unions are "unAmerican". Where have you been? You must have had your head in the sand. Don't you realize that if not for unions we would all be working for next to nothing, with no benefits. Do you really think that employers would just ante up a good wage because they are nice and like us? Or how about the issue of employee rights. Hell if we had no backing (unions) we could be fired for anything and have no recourse in the matter, your boss may just not like the way you look. How about the issue of working hours, unions were the ones that pushed for the 8 hour work day, before that people were working 10, 12, or more hours a day. Getting paid for over time, there would be no such thing.

Now granted our unions could be run better and even do more for us, and there is some corruption in them. But they are in most cases the only protection that a working man has, and those of us that work for a living should do everything that we can to keep the unions going. All you have to do is ask anyone that has worked a union job and a non union jod which is better.