Good luck. I haven't been gambling as much this season as year's past. Stick with what you know and keep on doing your thing. It was just funny to me how you said that Panthers will be exposed etc., and then you take the Bears on the moneyline. Good luck though. I hope the Bears win because I bet a few weeks back to win the NFC at 5-1. Go Bears.
CHICAGO VS PANTHERS - KOD
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Quarterback Jake Delhomme was sacked eight times the first time the Bears faced Carolina.
"Their front four really create pressure. When you can bring it with four guys, that gives opportunities for the guys on the back end," said Delhomme. "They did a great job that day. Certainly, we spotted them 10 points, due in large in part to a couple of poor decisions by me. We had to play catch-up from then on. When you have to throw the football and the defensive line can just pin their ears back and go, it is not a fun day sometimes. You have to give them credit."
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"Their front four really create pressure. When you can bring it with four guys, that gives opportunities for the guys on the back end," said Delhomme. "They did a great job that day. Certainly, we spotted them 10 points, due in large in part to a couple of poor decisions by me. We had to play catch-up from then on. When you have to throw the football and the defensive line can just pin their ears back and go, it is not a fun day sometimes. You have to give them credit."
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The appearance of a powerful running game gives hope to the Panthers as they head into a matchup with the formidable Bears defense, but it is possible that their success was primarily the result of a weak Giants defense. DeShaun Foster took over as the primary ball carrier after Carolina's desultory loss to the Bears in Week 11. Over the season's final six games, Foster averaged 3.6 or fewer yards per carry ? when he wasn't facing the suspect Falcons run defense.
At first glance, the Giants are an excellent run defense, but injuries to their linebackers have made them very shaky in recent weeks. The Giants finished the regular season with the third best rushing defense in the league according to DVOA. However, by Sunday's game, their only healthy linebacker who had played the whole season was Nick Greisen, a preseason reserve. Even he was suffering from a "burner" and hardly effective.
The Panthers did take advantage of one weakness the Giants defense has shown all year: third-down defense. In the regular season, the Giants' third-down defense ranked 28th in DVOA. On Sunday, the Panthers' emphasis on ball control left them facing a number of third downs. Their success in those situations allowed them to control the clock and, as a result, the game.
On consecutive drives in the second quarter, the Panthers converted five straight third downs that led to 10 points. Admittedly, three points came after a lucky bounce on a short-field punt. In the fourth quarter, Carolina got the ball with nearly twelve minutes remaining and a 20-point lead. Whatever slim hopes the Giants may have harbored were erased by a nearly nine-minute drive that saw three third-down conversions.
The niftiest of the third-down plays came in the second quarter with the Panthers leading 7-0. Facing a third-and-8 from their own nine-yard line, the Panthers properly sensed a blitz. Coordinator Dan Henning eschewed both a conservative run and a pass to the sure-to-be-double-covered Steve Smith. Instead, Jake Delhomme dumped off a screen pass to backup running back Nick Goings who scooted forward behind the left tackle for a first down.
The Panthers' success on third down led to a massive time of possession advantage. The two long drives in the second quarter helped to hold the Giants offense to only three possessions in the first half. In the second half, the offense did its best to give the ball back to Carolina as soon as possible. Four of five Giants possessions ended in turnovers, and the fifth one featured a Jeremy Shockey fumble that was ruled down by contact. None of these drives lasted more than six plays.
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At first glance, the Giants are an excellent run defense, but injuries to their linebackers have made them very shaky in recent weeks. The Giants finished the regular season with the third best rushing defense in the league according to DVOA. However, by Sunday's game, their only healthy linebacker who had played the whole season was Nick Greisen, a preseason reserve. Even he was suffering from a "burner" and hardly effective.
The Panthers did take advantage of one weakness the Giants defense has shown all year: third-down defense. In the regular season, the Giants' third-down defense ranked 28th in DVOA. On Sunday, the Panthers' emphasis on ball control left them facing a number of third downs. Their success in those situations allowed them to control the clock and, as a result, the game.
On consecutive drives in the second quarter, the Panthers converted five straight third downs that led to 10 points. Admittedly, three points came after a lucky bounce on a short-field punt. In the fourth quarter, Carolina got the ball with nearly twelve minutes remaining and a 20-point lead. Whatever slim hopes the Giants may have harbored were erased by a nearly nine-minute drive that saw three third-down conversions.
The niftiest of the third-down plays came in the second quarter with the Panthers leading 7-0. Facing a third-and-8 from their own nine-yard line, the Panthers properly sensed a blitz. Coordinator Dan Henning eschewed both a conservative run and a pass to the sure-to-be-double-covered Steve Smith. Instead, Jake Delhomme dumped off a screen pass to backup running back Nick Goings who scooted forward behind the left tackle for a first down.
The Panthers' success on third down led to a massive time of possession advantage. The two long drives in the second quarter helped to hold the Giants offense to only three possessions in the first half. In the second half, the offense did its best to give the ball back to Carolina as soon as possible. Four of five Giants possessions ended in turnovers, and the fifth one featured a Jeremy Shockey fumble that was ruled down by contact. None of these drives lasted more than six plays.
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best of luck with the play, and I can see why you would pick the moneyline rather than lay 3. In the first matchup, Carolina had 3 fumbles and 2 interceptions. They also missed a field goal, yet they only lost by 10 points.
It just seems like the Bears will need to play a flawless game or at least have a repeat performance from the first matchup
It just seems like the Bears will need to play a flawless game or at least have a repeat performance from the first matchup
badjab said:
I just don't understand this line of thinking????? All but one of those turnovers were FORCED!!! by an unbelievable Bears defense. Jake Delhomme played scared for the entire game and backpedaled all day. I Know I was there!!!! I will be there sunday also. Isn't this the same Carolina team that needed two straight wins even to qualify for the playoffs????? The same that lost to Tampa and New Orleans, both teams that the BEARS beat. My God, what has Jake Delhomme done that you are all so transfixed on the guy calling him a proven winner, he hasn't won shit. He lost in the SB remember? And only go there once. DeShaun Foster????? oooooh.. they have to shoot up his toe before the game, afterwards they will have to shock the entire team to wake them from the coma for next season. Believe me when I say the Bears will win this going away.
it seems that you would have shown a nice profit if you bet on the inexperienced qb last week....
that is the only thing from preventing me from taking chicago....
good luck with your bet, scott....
that is the only thing from preventing me from taking chicago....
good luck with your bet, scott....
I agree completely and it takes quite an investment but its a solid strategy...If I had the balls I would play all four home teams ML...49-11 SU for home teams in Divisional Playoff games is a really good stat in my opinion...I think 3 or all of the home teams win this weekScott-Atlanta said:
Good Luck Scott!
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Scotty boy you're on the wrong side on this one.
You're reasoning is completely backwards. The panthers haven't been over-achieving up to this point, they had been under-achieving. Their play recently is what they were capable of all season. They are healtheir now than that point too.
The fact that the bears dominated the panthers hurts chicago. No way it happens twice in one season. The bears are one dimensional and carolina will prove it.
Wrong side on this one.
You're reasoning is completely backwards. The panthers haven't been over-achieving up to this point, they had been under-achieving. Their play recently is what they were capable of all season. They are healtheir now than that point too.
The fact that the bears dominated the panthers hurts chicago. No way it happens twice in one season. The bears are one dimensional and carolina will prove it.
Wrong side on this one.
BEARS HAVE THE WORST OFFENSE STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS. Rex is going nowhere fast against a peaking CAR defense. Multiple TO for the Bears spells defeat. Delhomme in playoffs TD-INT ratio = 10-1. It was a nice run bears guys but be realistic you never really had a chance.
bigpink74 said:
In other words he has one less touchdown than you have posts??????
Other than the Cinn game when have the BEARS had multiple TO's? A peaking defense? You meant the one that lost to NO or got beat up only four shrot weeks ago?
A hint for you pinky, your ass is for pooping and maybe running a finger up once in a while ...............not talking out of.
Heres to hoping your next ten posts eill have some thought put into them
Hope this helps,
FDC
Okay, well this thread officially sucks now. Way to take things personally FDC. Like the # of posts somehow validates the shite you're spewing.
Please.
Please.
Trentwalker said:
Well I am glad you agree with me Trent. I haven't like that guy since his third post, just haven't had time to reply as I was thinking about what inane banter I could think of next. Actually, if you read his post it is senseless, not just because it is his tenth but because there is no thought put into it whatsoever and was posted specifically to get under ones skin. Multiple TO's will make the BEARS lose????? YA THINK??? You mean like how ALL THE OTHER TEAMS LOST LAST WEEK??????????? Woohoo thanks for the insight. You're right I will immediately start building my shrine to pink. How many times has a team that lost to a two seed in the regular season won the next game in the playoffs? Answer......never. 0-8. How come the BEARS haven't lost to a single team that CAROLINA did i.e Tampa, New Orleans, etc... What has CAROLINA changed in seven weeks that makes them so much better than the team that ABSOLUTELY DOMINATED them seven weeks ago. If he had lended anything to this thread other than an idiotic post I would not have mentioned the number of posts or anything else for that matter, but hell he only has another 270 stupid posts to go and then he can scold me too, apparently.
Hope this helps Trent,
FDC
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I almost dont know how to respond to some of this.
I do know I am liking my Bears play more and more.
I do know I am liking my Bears play more and more.
i post on another board but am spreading like a disease. you posted 1,816 times and are still completely wrong so what does that have to do with anything. bears don't get passed this weekend and when they lose i'll bump this thread and laugh at you. count on it.
silly bears homer :s4:
step into my office, because you're ****ing fired.
silly bears homer :s4:
step into my office, because you're ****ing fired.
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I think I have to call you a naysayer saint.
Saint NaySayer
-3 +110
Pan +120 Game MoneyLine Chicago -140
Over 30? -110 Game Total Under 30? -110
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That under 30.5 looks awful appealing to me.
I would be breaking a rule I have about not making more than one wager at a time in the playoffs.
Chicago moneyline drops to -140 Last time I saw that happen I jumped it for more money.
Got to think about this now.
This is where the money is won and lost.
I love the NFL playoffs. Both teams pretty much healthy, all players with big incentive to win and move on to the Super Bowl which is what all NFL players aspire to.
A player that gets a Super Bowl ring and you are remembered and respected for the rest of your life. It opens doors for advertising and side money at future shows etc.
Dont leave home without the bling.
So we end up with motivated money football players.
NFL Football - The best players at this sport in the world.
Lets say Canada comes up with a team to challenge us. Let them play the Chicago Bears. Oh shit. Talk about a massacre. You could hear the skulls being crushed from the cheap seats.
When this game is over,
I will meet you on Glory Rd,
it runs right off of Victory Lane
and that is where I live.
KOD
Pan +120 Game MoneyLine Chicago -140
Over 30? -110 Game Total Under 30? -110
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That under 30.5 looks awful appealing to me.
I would be breaking a rule I have about not making more than one wager at a time in the playoffs.
Chicago moneyline drops to -140 Last time I saw that happen I jumped it for more money.
Got to think about this now.
This is where the money is won and lost.
I love the NFL playoffs. Both teams pretty much healthy, all players with big incentive to win and move on to the Super Bowl which is what all NFL players aspire to.
A player that gets a Super Bowl ring and you are remembered and respected for the rest of your life. It opens doors for advertising and side money at future shows etc.
Dont leave home without the bling.
So we end up with motivated money football players.
NFL Football - The best players at this sport in the world.
Lets say Canada comes up with a team to challenge us. Let them play the Chicago Bears. Oh shit. Talk about a massacre. You could hear the skulls being crushed from the cheap seats.
When this game is over,
I will meet you on Glory Rd,
it runs right off of Victory Lane
and that is where I live.
KOD
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The Falcons at home were always able to control Delhomme. They rushed him hard, the crowd was in to it, and mostly the Falcons were not that good during that time of 9 games.
Delhomme goes into Chicago. Scraped in as a wildcard team. Beating the Falcons and NY Giants and people think they are a good football team ?
Bears allowing just 61 points in who knows when.
The Panthers are going to be stomped.
The crowd alone in this game a big plus for the Bears. Div champs with a chance to go to the Super Bowl... Oh shit .... Panthers get out of Dodge while you still can.
The emotion to win this game is on the side of the Bears. My research has identified four examples of it so I know its there.
The play is made.
The money is down.
Damn I wish this game was on Saturday.
Delhomme goes into Chicago. Scraped in as a wildcard team. Beating the Falcons and NY Giants and people think they are a good football team ?
Bears allowing just 61 points in who knows when.
The Panthers are going to be stomped.
The crowd alone in this game a big plus for the Bears. Div champs with a chance to go to the Super Bowl... Oh shit .... Panthers get out of Dodge while you still can.
The emotion to win this game is on the side of the Bears. My research has identified four examples of it so I know its there.
The play is made.
The money is down.
Damn I wish this game was on Saturday.
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