CLINTON SAID WMDS EXISTED TOO

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Besides the CIA, FBI, British MI5, Spanish Intelligence, and Vladamir Putin and Russian intelligence, you democrats realize that even your hero Bill Clinton told Bush that Iraq was hiding WMDs right?

Even John Kerry thought there were WMDs he admitted it last year. Are you saying John Kerry is a more capable president than Clinton?

An ever BETTER question for ya --- How do you explain Clinton's assertions????

I've never heard one democrat answer this one but I'm all ears.
 
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I could be wrong, but I don't see any answers yet. And I would be the first to admit that I would vote for Clinton over Kerry without hesitation.
 

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THIS POST HAS BEEN UP FOR 24 HOURS FERDVILLE.....STILL NOT ONE ANSWER

THE MAD JACKS LIBERALS HAVE CRAWLED UNDER THEIR ROCKS!!!


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I forgot to add EGYPTAIN, SAUDI AND JORDANIAN government spy agencies also told Bush Iraq had WMDs. So, all of the largest and most advanced espionage organizations in the world. THE BEST OF THE BEST. .....Oh, but the liberals still say "Bush Lied"
...gimme a fawking break...Bush didn't lie and they know it. They have nothing else to cling on to at this point.

All I gotta say is you guys SUCK. Your whole democratic party SUCKS. You never never ever mention JUST ONE solution it's just constant complaining and whining crying, bitching.....100% negative CRAP!...Never even hear any plan at all...it's just whining and crying like girls.

Kerry's entire campaign is based on the outright fabricated premise that OUR PRESIDENT TRICKED us....you liberals are so pathetic for falling for it. I don't even feel sorry for you. It's people like you who keep the Democrats out of office. You suck for talking all that crap about the President. You can talk all the crap you want about me though. I bring up so many solid points and you guys just change the subject and try and attack me PERSONALLY. All of you. It's like 10 on 1 but I still dominate you all. You have to resort to saying childish, unrelated things like "Manson is freinds with Michael Jackson".....how desperate can you get!!! Think about it!

We will keep this thread open and wait for someone to answer the original post.
 
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I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20,000 people.

In 1998, Saddam Hussein pressured the United Nations to lift the sanctions by threatening to stop all cooperation with the inspectors. In an attempt to resolve the situation, the U.N., unwisely in my view, agreed to put limits on inspections of designated sovereign sites, including the so-called Presidential palaces--which in reality were huge compounds, well suited to hold weapons labs, stocks, and records which Saddam Hussein was required by U.N. resolution to turn over.

When Saddam blocked the inspection process, the inspectors left. As a result, President Clinton, with the British and others, ordered an intensive 4-day air assault, Operation Desert Fox, on known and suspected weapons of mass destruction sites and other military targets.

In 1991, Saddam Hussein invaded and occupied Kuwait, losing the support of the United States. The first President Bush assembled a global coalition, including many Arab States, and threw Saddam out after 43 days of bombing and hundreds of hours of ground operations.

As a condition for ending the conflict, the United Nations imposed a number of requirements on Iraq, among them disarmament of all weapons of mass destruction, stocks used to make such weapons, and laboratories necessary to do the work. Saddam Hussein agreed and an inspection system was set up to ensure compliance. Though he repeatedly lied, delayed, and obstructed the inspectors' work, the inspectors found and destroyed far more weapons of mass destruction capability than were destroyed in the gulf war, including thousands of chemical weapons, large volumes of chemical and biological stocks, a number of missiles and warheads, a major lab equipped to produce anthrax and other bioweapons, as well as substantial nuclear facilities.

In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.

Senator Hillary Clinton U.S. Senate - October 10, 2002, hearing for AUTHORIZATION OF THE USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES AGAINST IRAQ
 

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Chuckie:

Even if true, Bill, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan did not pull the trigger. Your boy did. Maybe the former would have used more diplomatic means or further use the UN to verify before riding over the hillside, whooping and a hollerin, guns a blazen like the criminal did.

Isn't it wonderful how your right wing fanatics always manage to find a way to blame Clinton. I can't wait to read the next thread by one of you wacko's: Clinton sets up Bush by lying to him about WMD. No doubt there will be a link supporting this statement attributable to James Lakely of the Washington Times.

Thugs, murderers and felons. And you will condone it with your vote. Sick.

Eddie
 

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EDDIE...PLEASE....ALL I ASK IS ANSWER THE 2 QUESTIONS!!!!!! LOL...

FACTS ARE FACTS!!!!...remember John Kerry himslef said he would have riden over the hills with guns a blazin too...he admitted it!!! (well he's changed his mind 8 times but....)

Dont be a pussy Eddie...answer just at least THE BOTTOM Question.....seriously..you liberals IGNORE ALL FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just proved my point for me Eddie!!!! You're sooooooooooooo in denial about Iraq. Who are you anyways -you sound like some crooked- ass leach lawyer.

Answer the 2nd question please EDDIE......please, do it for the democrats.
 
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YOU ANSWERED neither OF THE QUESTIONS

eddie!!!! hahaha!!!!
So you are saying Clinton, the CIA, Britian, Spain, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt..ALL............
.... FABRICATED THE STORY OF WMD's---TO SET BUSH UP!!!???????????

OMG did I just read thaT??????????????????????...MAN PLEASE DONT EDIT THAT LOL

:lol2

please explain!!!!!!
 

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:142lmao: YOURE GOING TO RUN AWAY FROM THE FACTS EDDIE??? LMAO ---- RUN FOREST RUNNN!!!!

YOU CANT ANSWER CAN YOU EDDIE????!!!!!!!!!!

CLASSIC POST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDDIE YOU JUST WON MADJACKS DEMOCRAT PUSSIE OF THE CENTURY AWARD!!!

OMG HOW COULD YOU, HOW UTTERLY PATHETIC!!!!
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:142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:
 

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I do believe that Clinton did bomb an aspirin factory in Iraq. In fact, I believe he authorized some selective bombing over a two day period. But evidently that doesn't count. And that doesn't even touch on the subject of Kosovo. But we will ignore that one too because it doesn't fit the agenda.
 

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Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden but, it is my understanding, met with much resistance from both the military and intelligence. Besides that, had Clinton put boots on the ground like he wanted too, the right wingers on this board would be shouting that he did so for political reasons.

The reality, once again a hard concept for the right, is that Clinton wanted to take action but was precluded by the Contract with America boys who would have been shouting politics, politics, politics.

I am unfamiliar with any missle attack on Iraqi soil in an attempt to discover wmd. Please elaborate. By the way, Ferdville, I would vote for Clinton over Kerry in a heartbeat. A brain and a bj in the oval office, those were the days.

Eddie
 

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Furious missile attack shakes Baghdad as holy month begins

Blasts continue early Saturday over downtown Baghdad


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December 18, 1998
Web posted at: 10:29 p.m. EST (0329 GMT)
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A relatively calm night in Baghdad came to an explosive end early Saturday, with an onslaught of U.S. cruise missiles that lit up the skyline with enormous fireballs.

Immediately after the thundering detonations echoed into silence, the lamenting wails of imams called Muslims to morning prayer, heralding the start of the holy Islamic month of Ramadan.

Powerful explosions shook the Iraqi capital at about 4 a.m. local time on Saturday (8 p.m. EST Friday), about 2 1/2 hours after an initial, less intense attack. Anti-aircraft batteries roared into action, firing bright red tracers into the night sky.

Correspondent Brent Sadler reported seeing a cruise missile flying through a barrage of anti-aircraft fire, a few hundred feet from his position in central Baghdad.

Bright flashes accompanied the blasts, illuminating the city in bursts of yellow light. Some were so strong, Sadler said they "blew me back from my window."

"I'm now seeing many detonations," Sadler said. "There's one huge fireball nearby and I can see several plumes of smoke from still other detonations."

It was the third night of airstrikes that the Pentagon claimed were seriously damaging Iraqi air defenses, military command posts and missile plants.

U.S. President Bill Clinton and his national security team plan to meet on Saturday to assess the damage of the airstrikes, and to determine if the attack will continue.

In an interview with CNN, U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen would not specify what sites were targeted in the Saturday morning strike. But he said he was pleased with the effectiveness of the past two nights of air assaults on Iraq.

"There are always going to be some misses, and that's to be expected. But I am satisfied with the rate to date of the hits that have been achieved ... with minimum amount of damage to surrounding areas or to innocent civilians," he said.


U.S. weapons strike an Iraqi target
Cohen said earlier Friday he had received no reports of U.S. or British casualties.

More than 200 strike and strike-support sorties were flown Thursday, including the first combat flights of the B-1 bomber, said Gen. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff.

He said the attacks had focused on 75 targets so far, including an oil refinery in Basra.

But Clinton administration officials said they do not plan to strike sites suspected of hiding weapons of mass destruction because bombing them might release deadly poisons and cause civilian casualties.

Instead, U.S. and British forces are targeting facilities believed to be used to develop or support Iraq's weapons programs.

New satellite photographs released by the Pentagon showed that U.S. and British missiles had hit an Iraqi missile research and development center.

U.S. military officials also showed video of the bombing of a "critical (Iraqi) communications facility."

According to Pentagon officials, " ... it could be days, or even weeks" before they can fully assess damage from the airstrikes. More details from Friday's Pentagon briefing.


Hussein: 'We will not let evil triumph'

Before the latest attack began, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein made his first televised address to the nation since the bombing campaign began late Wednesday. He urged Iraqis and Arabs to resist the bombings and to hit the "criminals."


Hussein: 'Shame will be their fate, those followers of Satan and evil'
"We will not compromise or kneel in the face of injustice. We will not let evil triumph over virtue," Hussein said in his taped address carried by the British Broadcasting Corporation.

The Iraqi leader paid tribute to the Iraqi armed forces and the air defense troops, who have been firing anti-aircraft guns at the cruise missiles raining on the capital.

"Iraq will be victorious. God damns them. Shame will be their fate, those followers of Satan and evil."

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The address lasted only five minutes, and ended with the words: "Long live great Iraq, the great Arab nation and Palestine, and doomed are our enemies."

Other Iraqi officials also continued their verbal attacks on the United States and chief U.N. weapons inspector Richard Butler.

Butler is "a chief pawn in the hands of the United States, used whenever the United States wants (to) use (him)," said Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz during a news conference.

Aziz called U.S. President Bill Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair "Zionists" and "liars" for not respecting the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

"The timing of (the bombing) coincided with the failure of (Clinton's) visit to Israel and with another incident which I don't want to mention," said Aziz. The latter reference apparently referred to the Congressional debate over whether Clinton should be impeached
 

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Eddie...Clinton & Sandy Berger had Bin Laden in their crosshairs about 4 or 5 times!!!! Each time THEY DIDNT PULL THE TRIGGER...you have no clue what you are even saying! Clinton made the decision to let Bin Laden go!!! Now look what happened - that's right, 9/11 my friend.

One time they let him go because they were afraid that we wouldn't be able to give Bin Laden a fair trial!! You liberals are sick. You just throw up a smoke screen, ignore the facts, and avoid pressing questions.

I'll beg you again, again and again liberals...just answer the damn question.

EXPLAIN CLINTON's ASSERTIONS ABOUT WMDS please.
 
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CHARLESMANSON said:
I'll beg you again, again and again liberals...just answer the damn question.

EXPLAIN CLINTON's ASSERTIONS ABOUT WMDS please. Quit avoiding the thread topic.

Explain them how? I would say that at certain times he thought Saddam had WMD. :shrug:
 

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Since you like this little game, please explain Condi Rices assertion 2 months before 9/11. Thanks.


Rice: ?But in terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let's remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt.? --July 29, 2001

Or how about Bush's assertion:


I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The vice president [Al Gore] and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I--I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders.


Or Powells:

And frankly, they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors.? --February 24, 2001
 
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