you need to find another news station than Fox News. Is Mansion in the deep South?
Clinton Vs Wallace
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you need to find another news station than Fox News. Is Mansion in the deep South?
ground rules eh?
more like fox rules.
clinton cut those strings quickly, just as he should have.
more like fox rules.
clinton cut those strings quickly, just as he should have.
Strange thing is his staff was under the impression they were going to talk much more about the good things there trying to do around the world to help poor countries. To help all people fight health issues. Discuss the meeting they just had in NYC with some countries leaders and even Mrs Bush who attended. How long did it take for Wallace to role the dice. In to where he really wanted to go. That is a good question tho. Why didn't anyone pay attention to that June 2001 memo Bin Laden planning strike in US. I don't think Clinton was in office then.
:142smilie Oh yeah, I even responded to that thread - I just couldn't find it anymore. Yes, I think it's a guarantee that I'll be there for at least a couple of those days, probably more.
I wish all I had to do was point the hybrid up. I gotta point it down 101, up 126, down 5, up 14, across 58, and then finally up the damn 15. If I wasn't gettin 52 mpg's, I might become a little frustrated.
Bush has done nothing but focus on Bin Laden. That's why he said he wasn't concerned about him and why we've never caught or killed the guy behind 9-11, which happened 9 months into Bush's presidency. Clearly, Bin Laden is Clinton's fault, not Bush's. It's so obvious, just look at those facts.:SIB
I love it when Bush now says we "can't invade a soveriegn country". .....WTF? Really? Since when, jackass? What the hell was Iraq?
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I think Clintons part in interview where he accused Wallace of of tricking him in interview--No secret why he hasn't been on Fox per his remark.
You have reporters that can ask any and same questions over and over in press interviews --yet Bill refuses to do any interview without questions being screened.
He accused Wallace of Conservative hit job on him? I could think of many more pertinant questions he has refused to discuss anywhere since leaving office.
Heres a few he refuses t discuss I think everyone has right to know.
Why did you pardon 10 most wanted Rich if as you say it was not quid pro quo?
What documents was Berger stealing from archives?
What do you think of your ex attorney general being Saddams defence council?
additional tidbit
Former Head of CIA bin Laden Unit Says Clinton Had 10 Chances to Get Terror Mastermind
Tuesday , September 26, 2006
By Brit Hume
10 Chances?
Bill Clinton told Chris Wallace during their interview on "FOX News Sunday" that he had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban and launch a full-scale search for Usama bin Laden after the attack on the USS Cole in 2000.
But Michael Scheuer, who led the CIA effort to get bin Laden, is telling a different story. Scheuer says in The New York Daily News that plans for an invasion were never presented or discussed in his presence. And he says the only order he received following the attack on the Cole was to come up with a target list for air strikes. He also says Mr. Clinton had 10 chances to kill or capture bin Laden before 9/11, but the president did not use the information he was given.
You have reporters that can ask any and same questions over and over in press interviews --yet Bill refuses to do any interview without questions being screened.
He accused Wallace of Conservative hit job on him? I could think of many more pertinant questions he has refused to discuss anywhere since leaving office.
Heres a few he refuses t discuss I think everyone has right to know.
Why did you pardon 10 most wanted Rich if as you say it was not quid pro quo?
What documents was Berger stealing from archives?
What do you think of your ex attorney general being Saddams defence council?
additional tidbit
Former Head of CIA bin Laden Unit Says Clinton Had 10 Chances to Get Terror Mastermind
Tuesday , September 26, 2006
By Brit Hume
10 Chances?
Bill Clinton told Chris Wallace during their interview on "FOX News Sunday" that he had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban and launch a full-scale search for Usama bin Laden after the attack on the USS Cole in 2000.
But Michael Scheuer, who led the CIA effort to get bin Laden, is telling a different story. Scheuer says in The New York Daily News that plans for an invasion were never presented or discussed in his presence. And he says the only order he received following the attack on the Cole was to come up with a target list for air strikes. He also says Mr. Clinton had 10 chances to kill or capture bin Laden before 9/11, but the president did not use the information he was given.
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TIT FOR TAT :
TIT FOR TAT :
That's what we have here, that's all we have here. Who wins ? Not the American people , then or now. If you go back to the time when Clinton had Osama in the crosshairs, We did not think Osama was that important. When I say we, I mean our leaders ,and our people. I know some will jump up and say , what are you crazy ? Even though, He had hit our targets around the world, most of us : Senators, Congressmen, FBI, CIA, President, the people, everyone who should have known did not think he could hit us the way he did on Sept 11th 2001. Before Sep 11th 2001, I'll bet, less than 25 percent of the American people knew who Osama Bin Laden was. If the American people did't know, than our politicians did't care because he was a non issue in what matters most. GETTING ELECTED, GREED & POWER. I have said from that day that someone in our government let us down. As time has past ,I don't think it was a conspiracy. That someone is not one person,it is us as a people and a government. That someone is just us. The way we think the way we do business as a Country and a People. Who is responsible for Sep 11th ? Did Clinton do enough ? Did Bush do enough ? It was just business as usual in America. I have the answer that the 911 Commission could not come up with. WHAT CAUSED SEPTEMBER ELEVEN 2001 ? Business as usual caused it. The way we think in this thread caused it. { TIT FOR TAT CAUSED IT } !
TIT FOR TAT :
That's what we have here, that's all we have here. Who wins ? Not the American people , then or now. If you go back to the time when Clinton had Osama in the crosshairs, We did not think Osama was that important. When I say we, I mean our leaders ,and our people. I know some will jump up and say , what are you crazy ? Even though, He had hit our targets around the world, most of us : Senators, Congressmen, FBI, CIA, President, the people, everyone who should have known did not think he could hit us the way he did on Sept 11th 2001. Before Sep 11th 2001, I'll bet, less than 25 percent of the American people knew who Osama Bin Laden was. If the American people did't know, than our politicians did't care because he was a non issue in what matters most. GETTING ELECTED, GREED & POWER. I have said from that day that someone in our government let us down. As time has past ,I don't think it was a conspiracy. That someone is not one person,it is us as a people and a government. That someone is just us. The way we think the way we do business as a Country and a People. Who is responsible for Sep 11th ? Did Clinton do enough ? Did Bush do enough ? It was just business as usual in America. I have the answer that the 911 Commission could not come up with. WHAT CAUSED SEPTEMBER ELEVEN 2001 ? Business as usual caused it. The way we think in this thread caused it. { TIT FOR TAT CAUSED IT } !
i always look at that picture as the definition of love(and proof of the premise that black widow spiders can mate).
*no death threats,please...it was a joke...:nono:
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Stevie, no disrespect to you . This was the first thing I saw after my post. Thinking like this is what I'm talking about. I am guilty of it myself. Big picture, if we really care about the big picture, WHO CARES !!!!!
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Bryanz tit for tat is correct. I said long time ago we been let down in area of terror going back to Reagan and for sure Bush 41. Fault of who .Does it matter? Point is none of these guys Bush, Clinton Bush 41 ever come with new ideas. Biden and no one listens to him has one. But it might help stop a war. And The crowd that's running things is in no hurry. Just like those from the past. Bush 41 did say it right during gulf war. Stop here or we will own Iraq and may not find a way out for many years . If only his son would have listen to his father not Cheney.
""I have said from that day that someone in our government let us down.""
i can agree with some of this..but,where the argument gets blurry... is when major newspapers start leaking classified documents...and strategies designed to stop such attacks.....and to keep us safe...to further a political agenda...
and when said newspapers...and media outlets become more concerned with whether the guy that wants to chop your head off gets geneva convention protections...a prayer rug and halal food..more concerned with whether it`s proper for a female soldier to interrogate a jihadi...with underwear on some clankbird`s head........than their fellow americans deciding whether to jump 100 stories to their deaths or burn alive.....
bryanz?...weren`t you one of those people?....
you`re pretty indignant about being let down...where`s your indignation regarding the subversion of the government`s efforts to actually do the job of keeping us safe?....
i don`t recall hearing it...
you`re no different..are you?
again...the crickets...
"you didn`t connect the dots"..."you didn`t do enough"...
and in the next breath..."we killed the patriot act" (harry reid grinning ear to ear)....
hypocrites...
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Funny you say Biden DT. His plans is what should be implemented. But in all reality this admistration has to go to get anything done over there. Nobody will ever take us seriously again until they leave. Mccain or Biden if elected would likely open up dialouge once again to other nations and what little respect we have might grow a bit. Its just incredible that we are in this situation right now. We have zero respect around the world. After 9-11 we had to much respect and now this?
Power hungry, greedy stupid people, i have found out can take a whole country down the tubes. Give me someone with some business savy and some brains for a change. Id even take that blowhard Trump over these bad jokes
Power hungry, greedy stupid people, i have found out can take a whole country down the tubes. Give me someone with some business savy and some brains for a change. Id even take that blowhard Trump over these bad jokes
There you go again, I never said kill the patriot act. I never blamed the left or the right. I'm for reason and common sense. You are for TIT for Tat. It not about me, you ,Bush or Clinton. I'LL FORGIVE ME, YOU FORGIVE YOU AND LETS MOVE ON. YOU DON'T GET IT. Have you ever solved a major crisis ? I have. All parties left something that they loved at the table. The stuff that you adress in this post has nothing to do with how I think. This is just standard party trash, to help you digest the bull shit you have injested.
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blaming media outlets for the place and time we find our self in, is sad and misguided. We don't know if the chicken or the egg was first but we do know who cooked up this plan and fed it to the media. With out A, there is no B.
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i know people here will find it hard to believe but i saw oreilly ask bush & rumsfeld tough questions about osama & iraq. i also saw chris wallace ask rice & rumsfeld tough questions also.
i saw the interview & thought that clinton over reacted to wallace's questions. but as oreilly said, to be fair to clinton there was a different attitude post 9/11 than pre-9/11.
all ex-presidents are worried about their legacy, clinton is no different. i thinkm we should let the historians decide bill clinton's legacy.
iall i'm interested in is how safe is our country....& are all gov't. officals doing their best to protect the american gov't.
i hate this bickering & finger pointing from both sides as to who has done what...i'm so fed up for the first time in many years, i may sit this election out.
i'm sick & tired with our elected officials for picking & choosing what laws to enforce & what laws to ignore.
now that i got this off my chest...i'll go back to capping football.
now i understand why my sphincter involuntarily tightens up when i read a "bryanz" panel....kind of like it does after a good dump.....
who cooked up what plan?..and fed it to the media?.......a plan to keep us safe?.......using nsa wiretapping and data mining?.....the patriot act?.....
yes,i`m pissed that bushitler was stupid enough to leave the idiot tenet and that incompetent richard clarke in place after clinton left....yes,i`m upset that busitler didn`t clean house of the democratic ideologues at nsa and the cia when he took office.....
that`s his fault...and why we`re seeing all these leaks that potentially put all of us in danger...
that doesn`t excuse the nyt`s et al from using some discretionary judgement....in publishing classified material that`s important to national security...or for months of abu gharaib garbage on the front pages.......
while barely mentioning things like karzai`s press conference...in which he made some extremely cogent responses to the usual media bush bashing.....
what are you talking about?
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That is a classic line.
You have to excuse weasal he must have heard from Limbaugh that Richard Clarke only worked for Clinton. I guess Regan and Daddy Bush were also incompetent.
hmmm...whomever he worked for,he was there for the 9/11 attack....khobar...the cole...wtc 1....
and how many times have we been hit since clarke was removed?
