CNN propaganda EXPOSED!!!!

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Freeze-

You gotta stop... You are close to going :dizzy: and are posting like manson or scott4usc. I think you are frustrated. You have had a republican house, senate, and president while nothing has come from it. Except massive government spending, a war with no end in sight(which I supported the war not our soldiers turned police) and you can't throw a rock in the republican convention without hitting a politican who is under some indictment. I also think you know the end is near for the control of the Congress and you are feeling :scared. So just double bill your patient's insurance and everything will be OK...
 

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dr. freeze said:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3291328,00.html

Journalists undoubtedly learn in journalism school how propaganda has helped win and lose wars.

So they clearly know the power of the press.

So are they stupid or biased/antisemitic/antiamerican?

Why are they intent on rousing the Islamic street?

Do they know what they are doing?????


what do you expect from a network who's bagdad bureau made a deal with saddam that they would give his regime favorable news so they can have access to iraq.

you learn to ignore it...
 

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What a bullshlt story, Freeze! If anyone has been watching CNN, they've been very even-handed. If anything, they've shown extreme favoritism towards Israel. They certainly haven't been sympathetic to Hezbollah AT ALL. Don't confuse sympathy with Lebanon as being sympathetic to Hezbolloah. But again - they've spent much more time siding with Israel anyway - embedding with troops, interviews, etc.

Freeze - YOU are the biased creater of nonstop propaganda. JC is right - you are sounding like a crazed Manson type at this point. We could all grab articles from endless biased sources just like you if we wanted to shout propaganda. Most of us respect this forum enough to stick to credible sources and not pollute it with every peice of shlt on the internet. ....Christ, might as well be jewwatch.com.

You are such a wanker.
 

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interesting study on bias

interesting study on bias

they discovered both sides think media way biased against them (in this international conflict, not US domestic news).

The more informed the partisan, the more they felt it was biased.

and they complained most about bias in "objective" media, not the obviously partisan ones.





Two Views of the Same News Find Opposite Biases

By Shankar Vedantam
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 24, 2006; Page A02


You could be forgiven for thinking the television images in the experiment were from 2006. They were really from 1982: Israeli forces were clashing with Arab militants in Lebanon. The world was watching, charges were flying, and the air was thick with grievance, hurt and outrage.

There was only one thing on which pro-Israeli and pro-Arab audiences agreed. Both were certain that media coverage in the United States was hopelessly biased in favor of the other side.


The endlessly recursive conflict in the Middle East provides any number of instructive morals about human nature, but it also offers a psychological window into the world of partisan behavior. Israel's 1982 war in Lebanon sparked some of the earliest experiments into why people reach dramatically different conclusions about the same events.

The results say a lot about partisan behavior in general -- why Republicans and Democrats love to hate each other, for example, or why Coke and Pepsi fans clash. Sadly, the results also say a lot about the newest conflicts between Israel and its enemies in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, and why news organizations are being besieged with angry complaints from both sides.

Partisans, it turns out, don't just arrive at different conclusions; they see entirely different worlds . In one especially telling experiment, researchers showed 144 observers six television news segments about Israel's 1982 war with Lebanon.

Pro-Arab viewers heard 42 references that painted Israel in a positive light and 26 references that painted Israel unfavorably.

Pro-Israeli viewers, who watched the very same clips, spotted 16 references that painted Israel positively and 57 references that painted Israel negatively.

Both groups were certain they were right and that the other side didn't know what it was talking about.

The tendency to see bias in the news -- now the raison d'etre of much of the blogosphere -- is such a reliable indicator of partisan thinking that researchers coined a term, "hostile media effect," to describe the sincere belief among partisans that news reports are painting them in the worst possible light.

Were pro-Israeli and pro-Arab viewers who were especially knowledgeable about the conflict immune from such distortions? Amazingly, it turned out to be exactly the opposite, Stanford psychologist Lee D. Ross said. The best-informed partisans were the most likely to see bias against their side.

Ross thinks this is because partisans often feel the news lacks context. Instead of just showing a missile killing civilians, in other words, partisans on both sides want the news to explain the history of events that prompted -- and could have justified -- the missile. The more knowledgeable people are, the more context they find missing.

Even more curious, the hostile media effect seems to apply only to news sources that strive for balance. News reports from obviously biased sources usually draw fewer charges of bias. Partisans, it turns out, find it easier to countenance obvious propaganda than news accounts that explore both sides.



"If I think the world is black, and you think the world is white, and someone comes along and says it is gray, we will both think that person is biased," Ross said.

The experiment, of course, did not address whether news reports were in fact biased -- who would decide? -- or how the media ought to cover conflicts. Partisans argue that assigning equal weight to both sides is wrong when one side (theirs) is right. In any event, psychologists such as Ross are less interested in rating the news or in which side is right than in the curiosities of human perception: Why are partisans invariably blind to how news coverage might help their side?


If someone says several nice things about you and one derogatory thing, what sticks in your mind? People who are deeply invested in one side are quicker to spot and remember aspects of the news that hurt than they are to see aspects that help, said Richard Perloff, a Cleveland State University political communication researcher.

Perloff elicited the same clashing perceptions of bias from pro-Israeli and pro-Arab audiences when he showed them news clips with equal amounts of violence.

Ross and Perloff both found that what partisans worry about the most is the impact of the news on neutral observers. But the data suggest such worry is misplaced. Neutral observers are better than partisans at seeing flaws and virtues on both sides. Partisans, it turns out, are particularly susceptible to the general human belief that other people are susceptible to propaganda.

"When you are persuaded by something, you don't think it is propaganda," Ross said. "Israelis know they see the world the way they do because they are Israelis, and Arabs, too. The difference is people think in their case, their special identities are a source of enlightenment, whereas other people's source of enlightenment is a source of bias."
 

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The thing that still is hard to understand. Why so much death and destruction for two kidnapped soldiers. We should have more reporting on why it all started and was it worth. Over 1100 dead from both sides almost 200 Israel and 900 Lebanon. Over 30000 buildings either ruin or damaged severely. Over 500 Israel and over 29000 in Lebanon. Europe news is reporting these things and asking what was root cause to have caused all this. Then to go right back to where and why it started. To let it just bleed to begin another day. Yes STUPID as Hell.
 

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Maybe someone could answer this question--liberal media outlets including Reuters-MSN-Nyt ect have all been exposed this week by showing doctored/staged photos to enhance their slant and all unanimously have admitted and had retractions on same--

WHY have there not been any from conservative outlets caught doing same--is it they do not stoop to such or are liberals to inept to catch them?--but the way below is NYT's contribution to fraud in case anyone happened to miss it.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005687.htm
 

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AR182 said:
what do you expect from a network who's bagdad bureau made a deal with saddam that they would give his regime favorable news so they can have access to iraq.

you learn to ignore it...

You mean like when Bush hired Tony frikking Snow to be his mouthpiece with the press, and where was his first "exclusive" interview? Hmm, it wasn't one of those "liberal" outlets, was it?

Are you learning to ignore that, too?

Not trying to be an arse here, just presenting some "fair and balanced" commentary.
 

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AR182 said:
what do you expect from a network who's bagdad bureau made a deal with saddam that they would give his regime favorable news so they can have access to iraq.

you learn to ignore it...

Sounds similar to when the US government paid the Iraqi press to print favorable news.
 

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Chadman said:
You mean like when Bush hired Tony frikking Snow to be his mouthpiece with the press, and where was his first "exclusive" interview? Hmm, it wasn't one of those "liberal" outlets, was it?

Are you learning to ignore that, too?

Not trying to be an arse here, just presenting some "fair and balanced" commentary.


wow..it seems like i insulted your family...

what difference does it mean where snow went first....maybe he felt he owed the network for hiring him.....

no comparison to what i said....i have seen snow a few times on cnn...twice on lou dobbs alone.

here cnn tried to get an upper hand, an enemy of this country, on it's competition to show a favorable light of saddam...

i know as a liberal, you feel it's sacreligious to say anything against cnn....please forgive me.
 

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AR182 said:
i like to think that our media is above being bribed....don't you ?

I would hope so. Then again, i'd like to think our country is above bribing news organizations.

I'm no CNN fan and I haven't even watched it in years, but i'd be interested in their coverage during that time and how/if they slanted things.
 

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kosar said:
I would hope so. Then again, i'd like to think our country is above bribing news organizations.

I'm no CNN fan and I haven't even watched it in years, but i'd be interested in their coverage during that time and how/if they slanted things.


i guess the news in that part of the world is so slanted that the u.s. thought that money will give them some favorable coverage.....

i watch lou dobbs & occasionally wolf blitzer on cnn...otherwise i don't watch them...

i don't know how cnn slanted things either at that time....i learned about it when the baghdad bureau chief was fired or stepped down...
 

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Sorry about the overbearing response there, AR, not meant to attack you. It just gets tiresome reading the eternal posts about liberal media at every damn turn, and blaming so much on that. I would agree with you to a point that CNN is pretty much left-leaning, and I don't think that has ever been questioned too much. I have not watched much of the coverage of this war, so I can't say for sure. One thing I took from your linked report is something that certainly does not portray the Israeli Prime Minister in a very flattering light - going so far as to say he was hast and ill-prepared.

Here is a reply to this article from someone who has a strong opinion on it and apparently has watched a lot of CNN coverage. Just posting it for review, have no idea if it is right or not. The guy posted his response in the talk back area on the page you linked. He seems a tad biased, lol. But, an opinion on the substance:

THIS IS STUPID AND FALSE !!!

Now ynetnews is going to start talking about being biased, ha !!!

You have been biased throughout the coverage of the war and never gave balanced reports. You ignored the Lebanese civilans and always concentrated your reports about the IOF (Israeli Occupation Forces) and the Katyusha's falling on Israeli cities.

I don't know which CNN this author is talking about, but from what I have seen Anderson Cooper, John Roperts, Wolf Blitzer, and most of the high ranked reporters were either in Israel, enbedded with the Israeli soldiers, or giving reports from Israeli cities. They were all apparently biased for Israel.

Anderson Cooper was in Beirut for a few days and that was it. You should wake up and stop you lying machine ynetnews !!!
 

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The banter in this thread is exactly like the chatter that goes on between our grossly over compensated government officials and elected; that don't represent us. I'm sadly becoming resigned to the fact that nothing good will come from our government. We are so polarized as a People in this great Country, real solutions are the last thought of the biased few that vote, and the power first at any cost partisan politicians we elect. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE THINK. There was a point in my life that every thing I did seemed to be hard and didn't seem to work. I sat down with a guy one day. He was successful in business and his personal life, he seemed to have it all. The one thing that he told me that turned my life around was; YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY YOU THINK. When I first heard this, I didn't understand. Looking back, I have changed, I do the right things for the right reasons. I look at almost every interaction that I come in contact with , from the other parties perspective. I'm not saying be a door mat. I am saying understand who and what you are faced with and you have a better chance of the outcome that you want. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE THINK.
 
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I think what has been lost in this thread is the efficiency that AR is now using the quote function.

Nice job, Al!
 

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dawgball said:
I think what has been lost in this thread is the efficiency that AR is now using the quote function.

Nice job, Al!

He was going good for a while, but then seemed to relapse for a few weeks. He's back with it again. That's right, Al, you fall off the horse, you get right back on it!
 
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