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Since when do you accept witness reports as facts? I'm just confused, Holmes.
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Calm down. :0003
Since when do you accept witness reports as facts? I'm just confused, Holmes.
While I am a naturally skeptical person, in an incident such as this, where eyewitness statements, police statements and parental statements are rather consistent, I really have no issue accepting them as factual.
What I don't know to be fact is the signage issue my main man the Joker asserted.
I'm surprised between both Frank (you) and Joe Hardy that this is even a question.
I'm calm............calmer than you.
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I'm not sure that we are arguing whether or not the parents have blame at the zoo (obviously yes) or at Disney (I sure think they do).
I think the parents are at fault in both events.
As far as the signage goes at Disney, yes I think it applies here and is a valid point. I as an outdoorsman and lover of nature would take one look at the lagoon and know for a fact that there are alligators present. City slickers who know jack shit about anything but an office cubicle probably don't. It probably doesn't occur to many people that there are alligators abounding in most bodies of water in Florida. It does to me, and no way do I let my child of 2 play in the shallows. Does WalMart need signs in the parking lot during the summer that say please don't leave your children or pets in the car while you shop because they might die from the heat? No; that's common knowledge. Does Disney need to have signs on all their ponds and lagoons that warn there are alligators. Probably so because not everybody knows that.
FDC likes to take the wrong side on a lot of these internet arguments, but here he says he feels the parents are somewhat to blame and Disney is culpable. I think I can agree with both of those conclusions. I see no reason for FDC to make it such a huge point that the child who fell in the ape pit was black. I think that might be an attempt to bait some of the racists here, but I'm not sure? Color sure makes no difference. There are parents of all colors who don't watch their kids.
I think the parents are at fault in both events.
As far as the signage goes at Disney, yes I think it applies here and is a valid point. I as an outdoorsman and lover of nature would take one look at the lagoon and know for a fact that there are alligators present. City slickers who know jack shit about anything but an office cubicle probably don't. It probably doesn't occur to many people that there are alligators abounding in most bodies of water in Florida. It does to me, and no way do I let my child of 2 play in the shallows. Does WalMart need signs in the parking lot during the summer that say please don't leave your children or pets in the car while you shop because they might die from the heat? No; that's common knowledge. Does Disney need to have signs on all their ponds and lagoons that warn there are alligators. Probably so because not everybody knows that.
FDC likes to take the wrong side on a lot of these internet arguments, but here he says he feels the parents are somewhat to blame and Disney is culpable. I think I can agree with both of those conclusions. I see no reason for FDC to make it such a huge point that the child who fell in the ape pit was black. I think that might be an attempt to bait some of the racists here, but I'm not sure? Color sure makes no difference. There are parents of all colors who don't watch their kids.
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Its tongue in cheek, meant to be funny :facepalm:
Attorneys will get rich and the family will as well. Nothing will bring back their child, I just think its a tragedy and Disney is not to blame at all, it was a wild animal, how can that be predicted and there were signs warning of potential gators from what I have read.
sell your disney stock if you have it
You're correct in every aspect except one. I don't necessarily think either set of parents are to "blame" per se. I think accidents happen to good and bad parents and while it would be easy and even somewhat reasonable to say the parents may have been able to take some measures to prevent both tragedies, actual fault in any degree is a bit of an excessive claim in my opinion.
You're also right that I mentioned race due to posts made previously by other members concerning the topic.
I have no real dog in the fight other than a half hearted attempt to question some hypocrisy.
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Fuck you. I've always loved how you kentuckians have a pride about not having indoor plumbing.
....there's signs that say no swimming .....right next to bathing chairs....they're at fault and they know it. It was negligent but probably not intentional.
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So a family loses their child in a tragedy and they will get rich suing Disney and you people think it's great. It simply was a tragedy nobody is at fault.
So a family loses their child in a tragedy and they will get rich suing Disney and you people think it's great. It simply was a tragedy nobody is at fault.
