Does He Have a Point, or Not?

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Does who have a point..Dick Cheney for mocking
Ferry for wanting a more 'sensitive' war against
animals sawing off living humans heads LIVE on
the internet...or Harkin out of desparation
calling Cheney, who happens to be an American,
a coward.......... :rolleyes:
 

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Funny thing is Bush used that bad word first. Most Neg adds this year are turning against those who use them per interviews with general public. Cant blame folks. When there is nothing in them to be positive about.
 

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Here are some quotes from the 'tolerant', 'liberal', 'progressive' people of the left:

"I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. ... He is an absolutely reprehensible person."
--USA Today Columnist Julianne Malveaux on Justice Clarence Thomas


"If there is...justice, he'll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
--National Public Radio's (NPR) Nina Totenberg on Sen. Jesse Helms


"t may take the destruction of Western Civilization to allow the rest of the world to really emerge as a free and brotherly society."
--Newly elected president of that hot-bed of collectivist agitation, The World Council of Churches, Andrew Young


"In South Africa we'd call it apartheid. In Nazi Germany we'd call it Fascism. Here [in the U.S.] we call it conservatism. These people are attacking the poor."
--"Reverend" Jesse Jackson [who wears $3000 suits -- and spends hundreds of thousand of $ on his mistress as hush money for keeping quiet about the bastard he fathered -- while bemoaning the fate of the poor & preaching"Christian" morality"


"Fundamental, Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in."
--Former Democratic Congressman Peter Hoagland......does this sound familiar?? Communism anyone???? Suddenly the state owns your children??


"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have."
--Former president of CBS News, Richard Salant


"I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
--Lyndon B. Johnson


"When you hear somebody doing it [criticizing the federal government], you ought to stand up and double up your fist and stick it in the sky and shout them down."
--Bill Clinton in a speech in Billings, Montana, 1 June '95......PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH BILLY BOY.


"We don't give a sh-- about what you have to say."
--Gloria Steinham, as she turned off the microphone when feminist Camille Paglia tried to voice a dissenting opinion


"You're fired, and your pension is forfeit."
--European Court of Justice (sic) to Bernard Connolly who wrote a book exposing European Union lies while acknowledging that what he'd written was true


"Suck my dick, you stupid nigger. Shut the xxxx up, and get your black ass out of here, nigger!"
--"Reverend" Jesse Jackson and his gang of thugs to Black conservative J. L. Peterson, when he tried to speak at an L.A. Trade Bureau Forum meeting. (Mr. Peterson is currently suing "Rev." Jackson for -- among other charges -- assault and battery, as he was also physically attacked.)


"I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."
--Self-described 'unbiased broker of events,' and CBS anchorman, Dan Rather, when asked in an interview: "Do you think Clinton is an honest man?"


"Take the initiative .. whether the issue is promiscuity or recruiting the straight. ... Ten percent is not enough! Recruit, recruit, recruit!"
--Lesbian activist, Donna Minkowitz, writing in the paper, The Advocate, urging her comrades to recruit more of America's young into the homosexual "lifestyle."


"We must cure Americans of their opposition [to the perversion of homosexuality] whether they like it or not."
--"Gay" authors M. Kirk & H. Madsen in their book After the Ball ...


"We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. ... Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us."
--A vision of the future presented by the Boston Gay Community News in February 1987


"Lenin was an apostle of world peace whose ideas have had a profound influence on the course of contemporary history. ... [and] his ideals ... are in line with the U. N. charter."
--U. N. Secretary General U Thant in a speech given in 1970


He has just finished a sell-out stand-up tour across the States. The chant that goes up when Moore gets on a roll is: "Impeach Bush." But that's too lenient: "I want him paraded in handcuffs outside a police house as a common criminal because I don't know if there's a greater crime than taking people to war based on a lie. I've never seen anything like Bush and his people. They truly hate our constitution, our rights and liberties. They have no shame in fighting for their corporate sponsors.

"I honestly believe they are putting their toe in the water to see if people will go for martial law. After 9/11 we had hundreds of Arab-Americans rounded up and put in prison with no charges. You know, there's an undercurrent of feeling that we may not even have an election next year. If there is another 9/11 a justification may be used to call it off and instal martial law."- M.Moore.
 

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Cheney is not only a coward but the biggest single Dickhead to ever make it to VP. Let's hope nothing ever happens to W before the election. This guy is not to be trusted.
 

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Will we you keep it fair and balanced with the remarks of the idiots from the far right?
 

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"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees."
-- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

"And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it."
-- Bill Clinton on MTV's "Enough is Enough", 4/19/1994

"You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say."
-- Bill Clinton (May 29, 1993)

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans . . . ."
-- William J. Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993

"We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."
-- Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson

"I am one who believes that as a first step, the United States should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols, and revolvers...No one should have the right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun."
-- Professor Dean Morris, Director of Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, stated to the U.S. Congress

"We're bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns."
-- Rahm Emmanuel, senior advisor to Bill Clinton

"All military type firearms are to be handed in immediately ... The SS, SA and Stahlhelm give every respectable German man the opportunity of campaigning with them. Therefore anyone who does not belong to one of the above named organizations and who unjustifiably nevertheless keeps his weapon ... must be regarded as an enemy of the national government."
-- SA Oberfuhrer of Bad Tolz, March, 1933.

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."
-- Heinrich Himmler

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land... kinda cool"
-- Clinton Presidential Aide Paul Begala referring to Executive Orders, July 1998

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them. "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
-- U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D/CA) speaking of her authorship of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban on "60 Minutes" 2/5/95

"Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."
-- HCI President Sarah Brady to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, p.3


"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns."
-- Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1994

"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!"
-- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer (D/NY) on NBC 12/8/93

"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal."
-- U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, December 1993

"There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual; between the State which demands and the individual who attempts to evade such demands. Because the individual, left to himself, unless he be a saint or hero, always refuses to pay taxes, obey laws, or go to war."
-- Benito Mussolini


"I cannot save every undercapitalized business in America."
-- Hillary Clinton, when questioned about the impact health care mandates would have on small businesses, quoted in Fayetteville (GA)


"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU.


"Among the elementary measures the American government will adopt to further the cultural revolution are the following: the schools, colleges, and universities will be coordinated and grouped under a National Department of Education and its state and local branches. The studies will be revolutionized, being cleansed of religious, patriotic, and other features of bourgeois ideology."
--William Z. Foster, National Chairman of the United States Communist Party, in his book "Toward a Soviet America".


"The children who know how to think for themselves, spoil the harmony of the collective society that is coming, where everyone (would be) interdependent."
-- John Dewey, pioneer of American modern education system


"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It is up to you as teachers to make all of these sick children well -- by creating the international child of the future."
-- Dr. Chester M. Pierce, Professor of Education at Harvard, addressing the Association for Childhood Education International in April,1972


"Schools will become clinics whose purpose is to provide individualized, psycho-social treatment for the student, and teachers must become psycho-social therapists. This will include biochemical and psychological mediation of learning, as drugs are introduced experimentally to improve in the learner such qualities as personality, concentration, and memory."
--National Education Association report entitled "Education for the '70's." (1979)


"The battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom...between the rotting corpse of Christianity...and the new faith of humanism. Humanism will emerge triumphant."
-- John Dunphy, January/February, 1983, issue of "The Humanist"

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."
-- Hillary Clinton, 1993


"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
--Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, 1992.


We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
--David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991
 

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"The white race is the cancer of human history."
--'Philosopher' and liberal guru, Susan Sontag

"We didn't kill enough people."
--Ares Velouchiotes, Communist guerrilla leader during the Greek Civil War, when asked why his forces had lost.

"I guess that will teach them to f**k with us."
--Hillary Clinton, right after her "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" interview on the Today show (as quoted by Clinton "friend" Jeffrey Toobin in his book A Vast Conspiracy).

"F**king Jew bastards."
--Hillary Clinton, to Clinton campaign manager Paul Fray, in 1974 according to three eyewitness accounts.

"Lazy n*****s."
--Hillary Clinton, to black campaign worker in 1992, who was late for a meeting, according to Clinton/Gore volunteer Margorie Hamilton.

"In 29 years, my wife has never, ever uttered an ethnic or racial slur against anybody, ever."
--President Clinton, on 17 July 2000, while denying charges against his favorite U.S. Senate candidate.

"When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children."
--Former president of the American Federation of Teachers, Albert Shanker.

"I think a lot of people out here weren't worried about [the killings] because they thought they were white cops. But when they heard the cops were black, they're attitude changed totally. And they started expressing concern for the police officers' families."
--Black 18-year-old New Yorker on two policemen killed in a shootout at the Stapleton Houses project where she lives. (N.Y. Post, 12 March '03.)

"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing,' and then slap him for my mental health."
--N. Y. City councilman Charles Barron on the subject of reparations for slavery. (Nat'l Review Online, 6 Jan. '03.)

"Knowing what I know about what my people did, I wouldn't be able to respect myself if I weren't doing everything I can to have ... white people face up to this crime we committed and to right this great wrong."
--Donna Lamb, member of Caucasians United for Reparations & Emancipation. (Washington Post, 16 Aug. '02.)

"Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed."
--Noel Ignatiev, white Harvard professor and editor of Race Traitor magazine.
 

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Thanks Cman My favorite and the scariest-----

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU.
 

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Now for some quotes of The Hero of the Right and Bush lapdog Rush Limbaugh


RACISM?
"I am not a racist." (too many times to cite)
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." (to a black caller,
"Newsday", 10/8/90)
"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and
practice robberies." (Radio; "Flush Rush")
"Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted
criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" ("Newsday," 10/8/90 - wow, two in one
day...)

FAMILY VALUES?
"I will not tolerate smutty remarks on the air." ("The Way Things Ought To
Be," p. 157)
"I love the women's movement - especially when I am walking behind it." ("The
Way Things Ought To Be," p. 146)
"We're in bad shape in this country when you can't look at a couple of huge
knockers and notice it." (TV, 2/2/94, and again on 2/7/94)
"My guess is she [Anita Hill]'s had plenty of spankings, if you catch my
meaning." (Radio, "The Rush Limbaugh Story," p. 157)

SOME COMPLETELY FALSE STATEMENTS
"Vegetarians are a bunch of weaklings who wouldn't be able to bench press 50
pounds after one of their meals. Ask anyone in the NFL." (Radio, "New YOrk
Review of Books," 10/6/94)
hmm, for instance, Ph. Eagles star receive Calvin Williams, or heisman trophy
winner Desmond Howard, or maybe world-record holder in the bench press, Stan
Price, or two-time mr. universe Bill Pearl, all four confirmed vegetarians...
"Taxpaying citizens are not being given the access to these welfare and health
services that they deserve and desire, but if you're an illegal immigrant and
cross the border, you get everything you want." (TV, 7/5/94)
ummmm, well, illegal immigrants pay taxes, and are ineligible for student
loans, cash welfare, federally funded health care (except emergency treatment)
and food stamps. according to the i.n.s., less than point five percent of
illegal immigrants have fraudently obtained food stamps or afdc payments...
far from getting "everything they want", they get next to nothing...
 

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Clem ---a little about your buddy Harkin---but then again Kerry claimed he was in Cambodia--Shame on anyone that questions these self proclaimed hero's actions or where abouts.


Coward" for Not Serving in Vietnam?
Iowa Democratic Senator Tom Harkin (search) is calling Vice President Dick Cheney a ? "coward" for not serving in Vietnam. But Harkin himself didn't serve in Vietnam, even though he has said otherwise.

Many years ago, Harkin repeatedly said he was a Vietnam Veteran who flew "combat air patrols" for a year, but it turned out he was stationed in Japan at the time, flying aircraft to be repaired in the Philippines and missing combat altogether. Harkin, according to the Wall Street Journal at the time, was forced to call himself a, "Vietnam Era Vet" instead.
 

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It's always something that the press would never tolerate from GW. If Harkin or Kerry didn't fabricate, they exaggerated. Or misspoke. Or got confused. Or something, but you never hear anything else about it.
 

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Wayne:

This was the issue that got under my skin. You've got a bunch of ex-military (apparently you included) who did not like what Kerry did after the war and question what he did during the war yet you have THOSE THAT SERVED WITH HIM VOLUNTARILY SUPPORT HIM.

I will bet you that most vets will vote for Bush. Read a lot of local stories about the VFW convention which is currently going on here in conservative Cincinnati. Most vets do not like Kerry's post war conduct (although I do and think it makes him a stronger candidate for speaking out against an unjust war and telling the truth) and believe the cowboy approach is okay if the USA does it no matter that he invaded a country that did not attack us.

Again those that served with Kerry support him. Those that have an agenda since the 70's (O'Neil et seq.) will not. I for one will listen to those that actually saw what he did in Viet Nam and not rely of a group of vets, trumped up clandestinely by this administration, who "heard" or "served in the command next to his" but did not witness what he did.

You see, Wayne, in a court of law, O'Neil and his boys crap would not be admissible as hearsay. Kinda like you testifying what you heard about Kerry while you were on your tour of duty. Doesn't hold water.

Eddie
 

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Lets use a little common sense Edward. If people on his boat incriminated him would they not be incriminating themselves. Now if you want to believe Sandusky who said on TV Kerry was "SHOT" 3 times go on and believe it.

As I understand it these boats traveled together and often were side by side during operations which would give several of those condemded Kerry credence and would be classified as eye witness reports NOT hear say--your honor.

Now I will say after viewing both sides that there are logical exaggerations on both sides.

In Kerry's defence I did not like the way they suggested he shot fleeing youth in loin cloth in the back.
1st I never saw anyone other than Montagyards spl in loin cloths. 2nd there were leathal teenagers there from both sides and if people were never shot in the back you could never fire on retreating enemy.

Lots of spin from both sides--but by my view he exploited a situation with trumpted up heroics. Should have ran his campaighn on prior actions in congress but it's obvious he couldn't do that.
 

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9/11 School Principal Praises Bush Reaction to Attacks

Taking his cue from conspiracy filmmaker Michael Moore, John Kerry attacked President Bush for not reacting quickly enough when he got word of the 9/11 attacks during a visit to Sarasota, Fla.'s Emma E. Booker elementary school.

Booker school principal Gwendolyn Tose-Rigell says, however, that Bush did just the right thing by staying put and continuing to read to her children. And she says the president's performance that day made her want to vote for him, even though she's a Democrat.

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"I don't think anyone could have handled it better," Tose-Rigell recently told the Sarasota Herald Tribune. "What would it have served if he had jumped out of his chair and ran out of the room?"
She recalled the scene at 9:05 a.m. on Sept. 11, two minutes after the second plane hit Tower 2, when White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card squeezed past her to alert the president.

The Booker school principal didn't hear what Card said, but told the Tribune: "I knew it was something serious. The president bit his lip and clenched his jaw. I didn't know what happened, whether it was something with his wife or children or something with the nation."

"I remember praying that God would watch over our school and protect our children," she added.

Tose-Rigell didn't vote for Bush, but said that after watching the way he handled himself in her classroom while under incredible pressure, "That day I would have voted for him."

"I've heard people say, 'Why didn't you get the children out of there?' Where were they supposed to go? Many of their parents weren't home. Some didn't have rides. It would have created chaos."

Principal Tose-Rigell concluded, "There is nothing anyone can tell me to change my perspective, because I was there."
 

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Military records counter a Kerry critic
Fellow skipper's citation refers to enemy fireBy Michael Dobbs

Updated: 11:12 p.m. ET Aug. 18, 2004WASHINGTON - Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own version of events.

In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March 13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.

But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act, contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."



As one of five Swift boat skippers who led the raid up the Bay Hap River, Thurlow was a direct participant in the disputed events. He is also a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of Vietnam veterans dismayed by Kerry's subsequent antiwar activities, which has aired a controversial television advertisement attacking his war record.

In interviews and written reminiscences, Kerry has described how his 50-foot patrol boat came under fire from the banks of the Bay Hap after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. patrol boat. According to Kerry and members of his crew, the firing continued as an injured Kerry leaned over the bow of his ship to rescue a Special Forces officer who was blown overboard in a second explosion.


Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was "not under fire" when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described Kerry's Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came under "small arms and automatic weapons fire," as "totally fabricated."

"I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the backing of more than 250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of Kerry's fellow boat commanders.

A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units in the flotilla also came under fire.

"It's like a Hollywood presentation here, which wasn't the case," Thurlow said last night after being read the full text of his Bronze Star citation. "My personal feeling was always that I got the award for coming to the rescue of the boat that was mined. This casts doubt on anybody's awards. It is sickening and disgusting."

Thurlow said he would consider his award "fraudulent" if coming under enemy fire was the basis for it. "I am here to state that we weren't under fire," he said. He speculated that Kerry could have been the source of at least some of the language used in the citation.

In a telephone interview Tuesday evening after he attended a Swift Boat Veterans strategy session in an Arlington hotel, Thurlow said he lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he was unwilling to authorize release of his military records because he feared attempts by the Kerry campaign to discredit him and other anti-Kerry veterans.

The Post filed an independent request for the documents with the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, which is the central repository for veterans' records. The documents were faxed to The Post by officials at the records center yesterday.

Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that Kerry was the author of an after-action report that described how his boat came under enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that assertion, and there is no convincing documentary evidence to settle the argument. As the senior skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might have been expected to write the after-action report for March 13, but he said that Kerry routinely "duked the system" to present his version of events.

For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand what was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down the river after the mine exploded under another boat. He later returned to provide assistance to the stricken boat.

Thurlow, an oil industry worker and former teacher in Kansas, said he was angry with Kerry for his antiwar activities on his return to the United States and particularly Kerry's claim before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that U.S. troops in Vietnam had committed war crimes "with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."

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" 'Upset' is too mild a word," said Thurlow, a registered Republican, of his reaction to Kerry then. "He did it strictly for his own personal political gain, and it directly affected every single one of us as we were trying to put our lives together."

Two other Swift boat skippers who were direct participants in the March 13, 1969, mine explosion on the Bay Hap, Jack Chenoweth and Richard Pees, have said they do not remember coming under "enemy fire." A fourth commander, Don Droz, who was one of Kerry's closest friends in Vietnam, was killed in action a month later.

The incident featured prominently in an anti-Kerry television ad produced by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth earlier this month. "John Kerry lied to get his Bronze Star," says Van Odell, a gunner on PCF-23, one of the boats that came to the rescue of the stricken boat. "I know. I was there."

The Bronze Star controversy is also a major focus of an anti-Kerry book by John E. O'Neill, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," which will hit No. 2 on The Post's bestseller list this weekend. The book accuses Kerry of "fleeing the scene" and lying repeatedly about his role.

Members of Kerry's crew have come to his defense, as has Rassmann, the Special Forces officer whom he fished from the river. Rassmann says he has vivid memories of being fired at from both banks after he fell into the river and as Kerry came to his rescue. The two had an emotional reunion on the eve of the Iowa Democratic caucuses in January, an event that some political analysts believe helped swing votes to Kerry at a crucial time.

The Bronze Star recommendations for both Kerry and Thurlow were signed by Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, who received reports on the incident from his base in the Gulf of Thailand. Elliott is a supporter of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and has questioned Kerry's actions in Vietnam. But he has refused repeated requests for an interview after issuing conflicting statements to the Boston Globe about whether Kerry deserved a Silver Star. He was unreachable last night.

Money has poured into Swift Boat Veterans for Truth since the group launched its television advertisement attacking Kerry earlier this month. According to O'Neill, the group has received more than $450,000 over the past two weeks, mainly in small contributions. The Dallas Morning News reported yesterday that the organization has also received two $100,000 checks from Houston home builder Bob Perry, who backed George W. Bush's campaigns for Texas governor and for president.

Bush campaign officials have said they have no connection to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which is not permitted to coordinate its activities with a presidential campaign under federal election law.
 

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Kosar it even goes down hill from there. One of these guys serching for truth said this. Kerry had a plan to come to Nam become a hero then go home. His plan was to get wounded three times and win some medals. My god I wonder if this poor bastard understand how dam dumb he sounds. Please lord let me get wounded three times. Meaning you could of course die. And please someone blow someone in the water and shoot at him so I can fish him out. And please someone put me in for a silver star. Oh yes I need one brozen to. Ya Kosar I saw some of his BS on TV tonight what a idiot. I think these boys are going to get exposed for being pissed for what Kerry said after he got out. They just have not had the balls to say it yet. And of course they were not paid for the truth. Same chit Bushs boys pulled on Mc Cain. I do hope Americans wake up to what is going on here.
 
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