Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election

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"Hey Google, how does Mail In Voting confirm identity of the voter?"


  • Identity verification: The principal method used to detect and prevent fraud is the mail ballot envelope itself, where each voter must include personal identifying information (such as address, birthday, and driver?s license number or last four digits of a Social Security number). In most states, that information includes a signature that can be used to match against the voter rolls. The voter?s remaining personal information is also matched against the information stored on the voter rolls. As Kim Wyman, Washington?s Republican secretary of state, explained, ?we actually compare every single signature of every single ballot that comes in and we compare it and make sure that it matches the one on their voter registration record.? This is a long-standing and well-established practice to ensure that the ballot received was indeed cast by the correct voter. It?s important to note though that there are best and worst practices with signature matching. When done incorrectly, it can disenfranchise eligible voters. Done correctly ? with signature matching software, bipartisan review by officials trained in signature verification, and outreach to flagged voters ? it is an effective deterrent for fraud.
  • Bar codes: Most election jurisdictions now use some form of bar code on their ballot envelopes. These bar codes allow election officials to keep track of ballot processing and help voters know whether their ballot has been received. Bar codes also allow states to identify and eliminate duplicate ballots if a voter casts more than one, whether mistakenly or corruptly.
  • Ballot tracking through the U.S. Postal Service: In many jurisdictions, including California, Colorado and Florida, ballot envelopes are equipped with intelligent mail bar codes linked to the postal service that enable voters and election officials alike to track an envelope from drop-off to delivery and processing at the local administrator?s office. Denver?s elections division reported that 17,931 people used its system to track the status of their ballots during the November 2013 election. While relatively new, these ballot tracking systems are now readily available and are easily operable at scale. This way, if a voter says they never received their ballot, states can better determine whether the ballot was delivered, replace the ballot as appropriate, and ensure the original is flagged as compromised and not counted.
  • Secure drop-off locations and drop boxes: Multiple ballot return options limit the opportunity for ballot tampering by fostering voter independence in returning a ballot. A common layer of security to ensure that ballots are not stolen or tampered with ? at least for voters who can leave their homes ? is secure drop-off locations. In places where all or most voters receive ballots by mail, many voters do not mail completed ballots; rather, they opt to drop their ballots off at secure polling sites. According to the Survey of the Performance of American Elections at Harvard University in 2016, 73 percent of voters in Colorado, 59 percent in Oregon, and 65 percent in Washington returned their ballots to some physical location, such as a drop box or local election office.

    Ballot drop-off locations help maintain a secure chain of custody as the ballot goes from the voter to the local election office. And when drop boxes are put outside of government offices, one security measure is to equip them with security cameras to monitor ballot traffic and ensure that the boxes are not breached. (Drop boxes in government buildings benefit from existing video security systems.) In addition to preventing fraud, secure drop-off locations enable voters to be confident that their ballots will be received on time.
  • Harsh penalties: Anyone who commits voter fraud using a mail ballot risks severe criminal and civil penalties: up to five years in prison and $10,000 in fines for each act of fraud under federal law, in addition to any state penalties. In Oregon, for example, voting with or signing another person?s ballot is a Class C felony punishable by up to five years in prison. These penalties provide a strong deterrent to voter fraud; it makes no sense to risk such significant punishment for one additional vote.
  • Postelection audits: In 2018, a review of returned absentee ballot records helped identify anomalies in the election results of Bladen County, North Carolina, enabling election officials to uncover election interference by a political operative who stole and tampered with mail ballots. Postelection audits, which many jurisdictions are starting to adopt, would more systematically enable election officials to identify any irregularities or misconduct in the vote. Audits typically use statistical techniques to review a sample of ballots cast in an election to ensure that votes were recorded and tallied accurately. Since audits can only be meaningfully carried out when there is a voter-verified paper record of each vote, mail ballots (which are paper-based), are conducive to effective audits. Postelection audits are already widely used in states that use mail voting and are a best security practice for all elections regardless.https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/false-narrative-vote-mail-fraud

Lovely manifesto. Think about what a feat that would be in this day and age. See NY Primary.
 

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Lovely manifesto. Think about what a feat that would be in this day and age. See NY Primary.

Wait, you said the problem with mail in voting is it doesn't confirm the identity of the voter. The "manifesto" you just quoted above explains how identity is confirmed. Do you dispute that?

Five states already get the majority of their ballots via mail in ballot. What are your thoughts on that FACT?

Did you read the part about how mail in voting helps identify voter fraud? Like the case in North Carolina where a REPUBLICAN got busted?

Someone go get Cricket his Ba-Ba. Little fella gonna be cranky.
 

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Wait, you said the problem with mail in voting is it doesn't confirm the identity of the voter. The "manifesto" you just quoted above explains how identity is confirmed. Do you dispute that?

Five states already get the majority of their ballots via mail in ballot. What are your thoughts on that FACT?

Did you read the part about how mail in voting helps identify voter fraud? Like the case in North Carolina where a REPUBLICAN got busted?

Someone go get Cricket his Ba-Ba. Little fella gonna be cranky.

Better yet get him two green peas, implanted in his skull. That would make him four times as smart as he is now.
 

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You're saying a bunch of crap....

You're saying a bunch of crap....

Peace! :)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"This is just pointless. I get it. You're just saying a bunch of crap, okay? You're saying a bunch of crap" -- <a href="https://twitter.com/brikeilarcnn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@brikeilarcnn</a> to Mercedes Schlapp as she conspiracy-mongers about mail-in voting <a href="https://t.co/mv91jx9pEB">pic.twitter.com/mv91jx9pEB</a></p>— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1290736071198810112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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It's called election day. These fundamental changing idiots want almost 3 months to pull their stunts and sabotage the results if things don't go their way with mass mail in votes. They've been trying to change the results of 2016 for over 3years. The Dems are not about progress and use anything to create chaos.
 

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It's called election day. These fundamental changing idiots want almost 3 months to pull their stunts and sabotage the results if things don't go their way with mass mail in votes. They've been trying to change the results of 2016 for over 3years. The Dems are not about progress and use anything to create chaos.

You keep thinking that way, drone.
 

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De Blasio: ?What We?re Seeing Here? with Isaias ?Is the Result of Global Warming?
breitbart.com ^ | 8/4/2020 | Ian Hatchett


During a press conference on Tuesday, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) stated that ?What we?re seeing here? with Tropical Storm Isaias ?and what we?ve been seeing now for years, is the result of global warming.? De Blasio added that global warming is leading to ?more and more pressure on coastal areas all around the world? and that ?We?re seeing problems in cities all over the world because of global warming.?

After urging New Yorkers to take precautions during the storm, de Blasio said, ?Now, let?s talk about the bigger reality. What we?re seeing here, and what we?ve been seeing now for years, is the result of global warming. We?ve been seeing more and more pressure on coastal areas all around the world. Some of you may have been following the horrible flooding in Bangladesh right now. We have a big Bangladeshi community here in this city. We?re seeing problems in cities all over the world because of global warming. This is not an abstraction, especially for New Yorkers after Sandy. As I say, after Sandy, there were no more climate change deniers in New York City. We experienced it. We lived it. We?re not going to ignore it.?

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
 

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I got my mail in ballot request form.

You have to provide proof of identity (last 4 of SS#, DL #, or copy of government issued photo ID) just to REQUEST a mail in ballot. You have to sign it. It lets you know that if you provide false information you are committing a felony.

So, I guess that shits all over Cricket's point about not having to provide proof. He'll be right in to apologize.
 

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I got my mail in ballot request form.

You have to provide proof of identity (last 4 of SS#, DL #, or copy of government issued photo ID) just to REQUEST a mail in ballot. You have to sign it. It lets you know that if you provide false information you are committing a felony.

So, I guess that shits all over Cricket's point about not having to provide proof. He'll be right in to apologize.
I'll give you $50 for you to fill it out the" right "way.
 
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