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If a white privileged kid has a better school system to attend thAn a minority, then the white kid has privilege, and has a better opportunity because of the advantage. If the kid does not take advantage of it, that's his choice or shortcoming. If he doesn't apply himself, and ends up on the same playing field as a disadvantaged minority, then the privileged kid has wasted his advantage. The thing is, HAVING the privilege is a motivator in itself, NOT having it is a demotivator, and that makes the situation even more unequal.

I agree with your point, that the privilege is the opportunity, and it's an advantage - that the other kids do not have. Therefore, the unprivileged have to work harder for the same results. So the original playing field is not the same, if the final playing field is, good for the minority, bad for the white kid.

HAVING the advantage IS the point. What you do with it when you HAVE it is all on you. It doesn't change the advantage, or make it equal - at all. And that is the difference.

To use your word: Understand? :shrug:

Chad -this is perfect example of what Sowell made reference to--you blame society cause some may have opp for better school--yet totally ignore fact that those that have equally opp to education don't take responsibilty to use it.

The fact of drop out rates means nothing-compared to quality of school available--right
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The new report, also issued by the Civil Society Institute?s Results for America (RFA) project and Advocates for Children of New York, notes that the minority high school graduation rate crisis is masked by the widespread circulation of ?misleading and inaccurate reporting of dropout and graduation rates.? According to the report, while 75 percent of white students graduated from high school in 2001, only 50 percent of all Black students, 51 percent of Native American students, and 53 percent of all Hispanic students got a high school diploma in the same year. The study found that the problem was even worse for Black, Native American, and Hispanic young men at 43 percent, 47 percent, and 48 percent, respectively.

Asian ethnics do slightly better than whites.

By comparison, graduation rates for Whites and Asians are 75 and 77 percent nationally.


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Gee the #'s always point the same and results the same:0corn

and one more time--

One of the biggest fallacies of our time is the notion that, if all groups are not proportionally represented in institutions, professions or income levels, that shows something wrong with society. The very possibility that people make their own choices, and that those choices have consequences-- for themselves and for others-- is ignored. Society is the universal scapegoat

 

[rusty]

If a white privileged kid has a better school system to attend thAn a minority, then the white kid has privilege, and has a better opportunity because of the advantage. If the kid does not take advantage of it, that's his choice or shortcoming. If he doesn't apply himself, and ends up on the same playing field as a disadvantaged minority, then the privileged kid has wasted his advantage. The thing is, HAVING the privilege is a motivator in itself, NOT having it is a demotivator, and that makes the situation even more unequal.

I agree with your point, that the privilege is the opportunity, and it's an advantage - that the other kids do not have. Therefore, the unprivileged have to work harder for the same results. So the original playing field is not the same, if the final playing field is, good for the minority, bad for the white kid.

HAVING the advantage IS the point. What you do with it when you HAVE it is all on you. It doesn't change the advantage, or make it equal - at all. And that is the difference.

To use your word: Understand? :shrug:

Great clarification.Thanks.

 

[rusty]

Chad -this is perfect example of what Sowell made reference to--you blame society cause some may have opp for better school--yet totally ignore fact that those that have equally opp to education don't take responsibilty to use it.

The fact of drop out rates means nothing-compared to quality of school available--right
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The new report, also issued by the Civil Society Institute?s Results for America (RFA) project and Advocates for Children of New York, notes that the minority high school graduation rate crisis is masked by the widespread circulation of ?misleading and inaccurate reporting of dropout and graduation rates.? According to the report, while 75 percent of white students graduated from high school in 2001, only 50 percent of all Black students, 51 percent of Native American students, and 53 percent of all Hispanic students got a high school diploma in the same year. The study found that the problem was even worse for Black, Native American, and Hispanic young men at 43 percent, 47 percent, and 48 percent, respectively.

Asian ethnics do slightly better than whites.

By comparison, graduation rates for Whites and Asians are 75 and 77 percent nationally.


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Gee the #'s always point the same and results the same:0corn

and one more time--

One of the biggest fallacies of our time is the notion that, if all groups are not proportionally represented in institutions, professions or income levels, that shows something wrong with society. The very possibility that people make their own choices, and that those choices have consequences-- for themselves and for others-- is ignored. Society is the universal scapegoat

Good point.Kids attending a school in the city probably have a less chance at success no matter what race as to kids attending a school in the suburbs.Shouldn't what school your attending factor into a kids chance at success.

This is where the privileged part kinda turns into a gray area.Although I understand your point Chad.