Eveything made in China...

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Tariff Eliminations

Don Stott

Ever wonder how it came to be that everything we use and need, seems to be made in China?

I often wondered, and now a fantastic piece by the Washington Post, explains it all. America, before FDR, supported its small central government by tariffs on imported goods. This supported the government, and protected American manufacturing.

If Otis made an elevator for $25,000, and a foreign nation offered one for $23,000, there might have been a $2,000 tariff on the import. That is only a theoretical illustration of course, but now that so called 'light rail' or trolley systems are coming back in vogue, all the new cars seem to be make in Japan and a few in Germany. America, at one time had two huge, profitable electric car manufacturers which are long gone. They were the J.G. Brill Co. of Philadelphia, and the St. Louis Car Co. of St. Louis. Were they killed a long time ago by eliminating a tariff on imported cars, made with cheap labor?

Are clothing manufacturers in the U.S. out of business by having tariffs removed on imported clothes?
Individual tariffs, maybe on buttons, thread, or dye, which individually, when removed, made making clothes in America prohibitive. Are auto parts manufacturers in the U.S. out of business because auto parts manufacturers overseas have had various tariffs removed? The list is endless, and encompasses all manufactured goods which were once made in the USA, and now are made in China or elsewhere, and imported in thousands of containers each week, which return empty.

Each tariff removed, and there are thousands of them, or at least were thousands of them, have been removed on an individual basis by Congress. Wal Mart and other retailers have bribed Congress to place bills removing individual tariffs on thousands of manufactured goods, one at a time. Be it brass, cotton, or individual products, which at one time had a tariff on them, they have been systematically removed by Congress, for the benefit of manufacturers, so they can sell cheaply here. Nail clips? Tires? Lipstick? Loose leaf binders? Ball point pens? Underwear? Sheets? Pillows?

Tomatoes? Beef? Computers? Light bulbs? Tractors? Bottles? You name it, and the reason the manufacture of these consumer goods went overseas, is simply because thousands of protective tariffs have been individually removed by various Congressmen and women, who have been bribed or other wise convinced by lobbyists. The removals all had to be signed by the President to be removed.

As each tariff was and are still being removed, another American factory shuts down, and more workers get laid off.
It was, and still is, a gradual process. If the tariffs on shoes are removed, shoes made in China by cheap labor are imported with no tariffs, and American shoe makers are out of business and their employees are out of jobs. I wrote about Electrolux a couple of weeks ago, doing the same thing. To say that it makes products cheaper for America to buy, is the general reasoning promulgated by lobbyists, and this is true to an extent. But so what?

With literally millions of American factory workers and associated employees out of jobs, where is the benefit? Remember, for every out of work factory worker, there are out of work clerical workers, maintenance workers, transport workers, packing workers, electric and other fuel workers, sales force, supervisors, etc. That defunct factory paid property taxes, with workers paying federal, state, fuel, electric, phone, and city taxes as well. The defunct factory paid lots of insurance premiums also. Workers at those defunct factories used transport to get to work, which resulted in taxes on fuel being paid as well as transport being used, be it public or private, which was revenue to the provider of transport and all its various components.

A nation which doesn't produce what it consumes, is doomed to eventual failure. Check the reasoning and logic behind this statement. If capital is shipped overseas to buy stuff produced overseas, where is the capital generated to send overseas? Profits and capital creation come from mining, making and growing things, and selling them at a profit to consumers of foods, and manufactured goods, be they at home or overseas. Miners, farmers, and manufacturers hire workers to make and grow things at a profit, and thereby create capital and jobs. If the capital creation generated by manufacturing and mining is eliminated, jobs are lost, and the salaries paid to those workers eliminated. The remaining capital creation, is merely by retailing, with mining and manufacturing capital creation gone overseas. Two thirds of capital creation is missing from the cycle, and instead of capital staying at home and being re-cycled, 2/3 of it goes overseas, thereby draining our land of capital at an alarming rate.

Huge amounts of agricultural capital creation has also gone overseas. It is said that 39% of America's food intake is produced overseas. Congress steadfastly refuses to require point of origin labels on food stuffs, which may eliminate a lot of that. Who bribed them to not require point of origin labels on foods? Which Congressmen removed agricultural tariffs? Millions of American farm acres lie fallow because of cheap food imports of questionable quality.

One has to understand cycles. Steam locomotives used a lot of water to make steam. That water wasn't recycled, but went out the stack with the smoke from the boiler fire. The steam condensed in the air and fell back to earth, so the water wasn't lost, but the locomotive required constant intakes of water. As steam autos came on the market, the used steam was condensed in a radiator, reused, and water wasn't lost. When a manufacturer used American goods and American workers in American factories, the wages stayed in America. The manufactured products, when sold, generated profits which stayed in America. The profits were used to increase productive capacity, retire debts, and give stockholders a dividend if the factory was a corporate entity. Lots of profits went to local charities such as parks, symphonies, schools, and other worthwhile beneficiaries. The salaries of mine workers who mined the iron, coal, copper, and raw materials used to make American goods, was used to buy American goods. The factory workers' salaries went to buy American food and American products. The salaries generated from selling American products to Americans, stayed in America, and was recycled over and over again, just like factory workers' salaries. Salaries of transport utility, shipping, and packaging workers stayed in America, and was used to buy American foods and products. The mining, manufacturing, selling, and consuming cycle stayed at home, and no capital went overseas.

America became the envy of the world, and extremely wealthy when the cycle of mining, manufacturing, selling, and consuming stayed at home.
Then it all started to unravel, when legislators began to remove individual tariffs by the thousands on imports, as a result of lobbying and bribes, which went under the guise of lowering consumer costs. The cycle was broken, and America began its long plunge into bankruptcy, debts, and unemployment. Well paid workers were laid off and had to latch on to two or three low paying jobs to survive. Living standards went down, and the layoffs continue to this day, with no sign of decreasing. Pundits came up with the phrases of, "We don't need manufacturing, because we are in the information age." Or, "We're for free trade." Or, "Illegally do work Americans won't do." Various corruptions of basic economics are put forth daily by the gurus on CNBC, who have impressive degrees from Ivy league universities. These highly paid 'economists,' haven't a clue as to real economics, or they would have realized that America has been sabotaged from within by highly paid lobbyists and gullible Congressmen and women who care nothing about real economics, but are merely obsessed with remaining in office under the fake guise of having 'lowered prices,' and a host of other fake benefits and handouts, which have made the worthless proliferate, and our homeland decay.
 

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I agree to some extent--but basically it goes back to people in U.S. who can buy american products-but opt not to--in fact many patronize overseas competition-- Does post below look familiar ;)

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And the moral of the story is....

Buy a Japanese car, drive it for 200,000 miles, just change oil and filters regularly.....that is prety much all it will need...

American cars with few exceptions; have pretty much been chit for decades.
 
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Dead Money...
Great read...we,ve had this discussion here before and because of our collective apathy we now suffer from a society rife with problems as a result.
We are losing our middle class....factory work and labor have suffered (some by their own greed) we have a society with BIG WINNERS...and a lot of losers ....We all pay for the uninsured with our insurance and as a result noone wants to provide insurance any more.......There are MANY hidden costs to our society...by not producing what we consume. THE BIG WINNERS however run the show....congress..tax breaks for the wealthy...etc.
Trickle down my ass.......Trickle overseas and to lobbyists pockets is more like it.
DTB is correct about the quality of cars that allowed the Japanese to penetrate and capture our markets.....BUT.....ALL AMERICA NEEDS....is a level playing field.......and real competition.......
Slave labor and pollute the planet practices overseas make competition close to impossible.

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What is US made anymore..

What is US made anymore..

Dog, I try to buy American made with American components...name me some products that qualify?

When Sam was alive Walmarts creedo was "American Proud" items proudly made in USA....go to Walmart today and try to find US made...

As far as the car industry goes look at what is happening today with GM and Ford....they reap what they sowed....

I have been a new car buyer since 1967....the quality really seemed to plummet in the mid- late 1970-s, I had never dreamed of anything but a US made car ( in my mind it was downright wrong)...my last straw was a one owner low mileage about 30,000 miles, 1989 Cougar xr7, a beautiful burgundy with v-8....a great road car.

At 35,000 the windshield wiper motor failed

At 40,000 miles the power window came up crooked and the glass popped out...I managed to catch it and drove home one handed, after the dealer "fixed it" it happened again three days later.

At 45,000 miles I was changing oil and the hood came crashing down barely missing me...it came down at an angle and scratched the paint badly...a bad factory weld was the culprit (if I had not wrapped a rag around my hand and feigned an injury, the dealer would not have fixed it)


....at about 50,000 miles on a trip to Colorado the front right tire was squealing, made it to a Denver dealer....the tire was worn to the copper METAL in the thread !!
Why? The car alignment was on the last physical factory setting on the frame...in lay terms it could not be adjusted....I was told the tire would get me home if I stayed under 60...

.on the last 100 miles home the electronic dash went dead.....I was stopped for speeding 30 miles from home and said "dash burned out" he let me go..... (turned out to be a fuse)

A week later on a business trip, I had reserved an oldsmobile in Orlando...it was unavailable, they gave me a new Mazda mini-van 1992 it was my first exposure to a Japanese auto....drove it for 2 weeks came home and bought one.....I have not had a US made vehicle since....


THE 1989 COUGAR?? I put the bad tire on the rear right side, figuring the dealer would not see it....traded it towards the Mazda...he did not comment on it..
A week later their used car lot had an ad for a Like new 1989 Burgundy XR7 with 50 some thousand miles..I knew it was my car, I went and looked at it.....same tires....they had put a handful of black gunk over the exposed copper threads and smoothed it down......NO SHIT!!! a fifty dollar frickin' tire and they hid it....

I am now on my 5th Japanese car, a 2006 Acura TSX....25-33 mpg quiet comfortable ....golf clubs a little bit of a tight fit...

Would I buy an American car again?
 

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American cars have improved considerably since 1989 in reliability. Of course, it was competiton that did it.

Looking at long term reliability statistics compiled by Consumer Reports or J.D Powers, you can end up today with a Japanese car that has less long term reliability than an American one. Or you can play it safe and drive good old dependable Toyotas.




Various corruptions of basic economics

What might these be? Give us a few convincing ones and you will get a Noble Prize in Economics guaranteed----as it would up end 150 years of settled economic theory and practice concerning trade.
 

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Have owned nothing but American cars all my life and never had any out of the ordinary problems.
 

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people will never realize that these sad trade deals are gov't always passes has a trickle down effect on almost everything. This is why most families have two workers instead of one. This is why there are so many broken families compared to twenty years ago. Its all about greed in this country and they will stop at nothing to get it. anyone remember having to be home for dinner? this doesn't happen anymore because both parents have to work. Its a disgrace and all these politicians have caused it. I hated Clinton when he signed Nafta and when Bush signed that even worse trade deal Cafta he has a smirk on his face like he just screwed the american worker the best way he could. It passed by one vote and that corrupt prick :the hammer" led the charge. It was the single worst anti american worker vote just yet.
 

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The Sponge is absolutely right when he asserts that the trickle down effects of lost manufacturing jobs, closed factories,etc have had a major negative effect on the American family...and the shrinking middle class...So what is a person to do?
Well, in addition to working at Wall Mart there are underground economies where a person can make a buck and they are all dangerous and none of them enhance or promote family living!!!
Remember Ross Perot "Ya hear that sucking sound"


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It's hard for American companies to compete when Our health care cost have gone up 40% in just the last 5 yrs. Most Unions have overpriced their workers the last 20 yrs. Guys making 25 an hr for 12.50 an hr worth of work won't cut it anymore. This is a global economy, the old days are gone. You are worried about tariffs and trade agreements, when our biggest problem is Health care cost. Nothing has changed about China. I'm 45 yrs old, everything that I turned over as a kid came from China or Japan .
 

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Healthcare costs rise because, like Robin Hood,
Hospitals and Health providors must charge at a high rate.............that will help cover the costs of the uninsured and those who will never be able to pay....Sooooooo prices are sky high for the insured and the more uninsured there are....(cuz no good jobs) the higher they will go....Everyone is trying to drop or share the burden of ins. with employee...In addition there is a litigation problem which adds to a Doctors liability ins. premiums and the problem of Immense remuneration at the top of management........because they can..It all adds to your premiums accelerated rate.
$20 to 25 per hour = $40,000 to $50,000 per year.........Not too many are going to raise a family and move to the top of the hill on that income.
Global economy .....not much more than a license to use slave labor (or the equivalent therof) pollute with little restriction..and reap windfall profit at the expense of the American working man.........END RESULT....American working man becomes working poor....no insurance etc. etc.
Middle class families are stretched as never before..
AND RICH get the tax breaks so they can SPEND LAVISHLY and have the $$$ trickle down!
MADE IN JAPAN was laughable when I was a kid!
It represented JUNK!

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