Fixed?

[grandpa]

The general feeling is that the Seahawks outplayed the Steelers.

OK

That has never been the only criteria for winning the game, even if it were true. 6th time losing team outgained winner in SB, though only by 60 yds.

1) Turnover margin is crucial. Advantage: Steelers.

2) Big plays detemine the winner
A) Parker 75 yd TD bolt
B) Randle-El TD pass to Ward

3) Special teams play
A) 2 missed FGS by Sea
B) 4 punts into Steeler endzone ( no coffin corner in sight)

Refs had bad game, Steelers had bad game, Seahawks had bad game.

Steelers rose above, won game, made plays.

 

[Dice34]

The general feeling is that the Seahawks outplayed the Steelers.

OK

That has never been the only criteria for winning the game, even if it were true. 6th time losing team outgained winner in SB, though only by 60 yds.

1) Turnover margin is crucial. Advantage: Steelers.

2) Big plays detemine the winner
A) Parker 75 yd TD bolt
B) Randle-El TD pass to Ward

3) Special teams play
A) 2 missed FGS by Sea
B) 4 punts into Steeler endzone ( no coffin corner in sight)

Refs had bad game, Steelers had bad game, Seahawks had bad game.

Steelers rose above, won game, made plays.

Turnover margin is Crucial and the advantage was to Seattle.......another guy that is singing to the choir about the Steelers outplayed them but doesn't know the facts.........Seahawks won the TO battle, Total Yards and Time of possession by 7 mins.......but still lost by 11???/ Seahawks 7 for 70 yds in penalties........steelers 3-20 yds and 2 were false starts in their opening possession........Yes, there were some areas Pittsburg outperformed the Seahawks....but overall as a whole the Seahawks outplayed and for most of game outcoached the Steelers.....They just had a better gameplan going in and excecuted......but Seattle just couldnt overcome the obstacles they were faced and ultimately pressed when time was running out

 

[grandpa]

Total yardage is the only thing that matters.

Take the score out of the equation

 

[DerekNJND]

Are you kidding me with this?? The ref didn't even look like he was going to throw the flag until the Steeler DB turned around and complained......then the flag flew.......and I see you keep saying the 1st quarter, apparantly you didnt pay close attention to the rest of the game.....Another ? How do you push off with an already extended arm.....It was a questionable call and coulda been lived with, if that was the only one but it wasn't, its not that they were blowing calls, they were making them up...........Seahawks lost and the Steelers won is the bottom line and I'm not discounting that, cuz I could careless about who won.......But the Seahawks were playing against more than 11 guys out there and I'm dissappointed in the NFL for having the biggest game of the season...end up the way it did...I think refs need their own offseason workout, training camps and video breakdowns, b/c as AR said, the officials blew alot of calls this season and that crap needs to be worked out

Your criticism should be directed towards an UNDISCIPLINED Seahawks team not the refs, and not me. Like I said, an "extended arm", anything where an arm is extended BEYOND 90 degrees and makes contact can be called a pushoff. Is the ref REQUIRED to make the call? No. Can he make the call? Yes. Is he WRONG for making the call? Absolutely not. It was within his discretion.

You can blame whoever you want. After the holding call, did the "refs" throw the interception when Seattle could have taken the lead? no. Did the "refs" go score the TD to put Pittsburgh up 11? No. Did the "refs" get the sack on 3rd and long to force the punt with 6 minutes left, which ultimately sealed the deal? no. Seattle had plenty of chances. Give Pittsburgh's defense credit and blame Seattle for offensive futility.

 

[Mjolnir]

check out espn.com
there are several write ups about the officiating. dont remember a superbowl that had such a fuss over the officiating.

 

[Dice34]

No kidding Derek....But what the refs did do was disrupt the flow of the game and every ounce of momentum the Seahawks got, they took it away......like I said I don't care one way or the other who won the game, cuz I'm not a fan of either team, but I am a fan of the game, I played the game and understand the game.....And actually all this officiating mess takes some of the prestigue(sp?) away from the Steelers......And that is a travesty....instead of talking about a great game and a great performance from both teams.....the talk around the country is a mediocre performance from the Steelers a Seahawks team that out peformed "the better team" in Pittsburgh and the refs who did a poor job and may have determined the outcome......that doesn't look good for the League and just sucks for the winner.....Seattle handled the situation with class but I don't think its over....I think we may hear some talk from their camp before its all said and done....jmo

 

[Dice34]

check out espn.com
there are several write ups about the officiating. dont remember a superbowl that had such a fuss over the officiating.

thats my point, exactly....espn has it all over, the radio stations have it all over.....takes away from the steelers victory and rightfully so...its not their fault or seattles....the NFL and officials are to blame

 

[DeDe]

Yeah the best team won alright. They were wearing stripes and they are going to collect today.

:iagree: :iagree: :142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:

 

[thom24ad]

Fixed I really doubt it...I heard the best possible outcomes for books was a Pitt win but no cover...I think that was a more likely scenario for a fixed game

 

[ELVIS]

seahawk fans now know what it is like to be Raider fans. :fingerc:


sea had their chances - j stevens is a bitch, but the game was officiated terribly. several questionable calls. the nfl may have sent a message to vegas last night...........

 

[DerekNJND]

Fix is the EXACT wrong word to use for this game because Vegas didnt make a DIME off of Pitt covering. My book had 66% on pit during gameday. I think if Vegas was capable of "rigging" the superbowl they would at least make some money out of the deal....

 

[michaeljbird]

Who said Vegas was involved? Just because Vegas may or may not have made a profit has zero to do with it. DId 1 or more official make a huge play on the game? I don't know. But they could have. So what difference does it make who "Vegas" needed. On a side note. I've talked to bookies from around the country today. Most WON the game. I've had a couple explain to me that the prop bets made them a small fortune. One guy said most of the guys who bet Pitt for the game, lost alot more $ on the props considering Seattle pretty much dominated the majoirity of the props. With Ward winning MVP,instead of Ben,Bettis, and Ben scoring first TD instead of Ward,Bettis. Bettis under the rush total, Ben under his passing totals. Seattle winning turnover margins ie interceptions books made a killing on the props. Those are just a few examples.

 

[DoubleDown]

Did one or more official make a huge play on the game?????

Have you ever laid action in Vegas?? I do all the time. It is VERY VERY tough to get off a few dimes, let alone enough to make what your talking about worth while.

Some people are nder the impression that you can stroll up to a window, and drop $100,000 on a bet. DOESN'T HAPPEN !!!

Bad officiating, maybe.............fix or otherwise, NOT !!!!!!!!

 

[DerekNJND]

Who said Vegas was involved? Just because Vegas may or may not have made a profit has zero to do with it. DId 1 or more official make a huge play on the game? I don't know. But they could have. So what difference does it make who "Vegas" needed. On a side note. I've talked to bookies from around the country today. Most WON the game. I've had a couple explain to me that the prop bets made them a small fortune. One guy said most of the guys who bet Pitt for the game, lost alot more $ on the props considering Seattle pretty much dominated the majoirity of the props. With Ward winning MVP,instead of Ben,Bettis, and Ben scoring first TD instead of Ward,Bettis. Bettis under the rush total, Ben under his passing totals. Seattle winning turnover margins ie interceptions books made a killing on the props. Those are just a few examples.

Vegas or no vegas, the game was not fixed. You are saying Vegas was not involved, so what happened, the refs all pooled their salaries and bet on pittsburgh?

 

[edludes]

This just in.................The ref making the phantom interference call is from Pittsburg and is a self described Steelers fan!!!!!!!!!! Yeah,he's an unbiased professional.Sure.

 

[RexBudler]

I think ALL Seattle bettors should get a refund
:lol2 :lol2 :lol: :mj05: :142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao: :weed:

 

[michaeljbird]

Did one or more official make a huge play on the game?????

Have you ever laid action in Vegas?? I do all the time. It is VERY VERY tough to get off a few dimes, let alone enough to make what your talking about worth while.

Some people are under the impression that you can stroll up to a window, and drop $100,000 on a bet. DOESN'T HAPPEN !!!

Bad officiating, maybe.............fix or otherwise, NOT !!!!!!!!

I'll say this and then leave it alone. I never said anything about Vegas winning or losing,I never said a single bogus dollar was wagered there. Since you are the resident expert on the subject why don't you tell us the ratio to dollars wagered legally vs. wagered illegally. I have been to Vegas several times and I can get more money down with 1 local then I can with most any casino in Vegas. Most people that wager alot of money have Several OUTS. If you had a clue as to how much money a guy could get down over the phone in a matter of minutes you wouldn't even make an ignorant comment like that. I can promise you there were parties involved in this game that had a vested interest in the game. Monetarily or otherwise. It's obvious the the overwhelming majority of the people who watched the game. The real problem is some of the people who won money on the game can't see it for what it is because they would have to admit they were lucky to win a game that they shouldn't have. All the number favor Seattle. Ben R.had the WORST qb rating in the history of the play-offs for a winning team. THE HISTORY OF THE PLAY-OFFS! Count how many games over the last 40 YEARS that covers. You figure it out .

 

[Phenom]

For once I liked the ESPN poll after the superbowl, with over 120,000 votes, 68% of voters said the thing they would remember most about Superbowl XL was the poor officiating...

Its the Superbowl, and should be remembered for the great run by Parker, or the pass to Ward, (and I was on Seattle), however it will be long remembered as the game decided by the zebras...

 

[Franky Wright]

I can promise you there were parties involved in this game that had a vested interest in the game. Monetarily or otherwise. It's obvious the the overwhelming majority of the people who watched the game. The real problem is some of the people who won money on the game can't see it for what it is because they would have to admit they were lucky to win a game that they shouldn't have. All the number favor Seattle. Ben R.had the WORST qb rating in the history of the play-offs for a winning team. THE HISTORY OF THE PLAY-OFFS! Count how many games over the last 40 YEARS that covers. You figure it out .

These idiots that won on the game, and are defending the officials are the same ones who live in their own little fantasy world. Get caught speeding, fired from their job, divorced by their wife, NEVER their fault :violin: They need to wake up see it for what it is.

 

[edludes]

Great post Mr Wright.Grandpa.I love your "creepy king" avatar,but in spite of the falsehoods you are posting the Steelers LOST the total yds battle,LOST the turnover battle,lost the time of possesion battle,and had a qb rating that win for you a whopping 3% of the time in the regular season and NEVER BEFORE IN THE PLAYOFFS!!Now which part of the stats besides the officiating justifies the fake final score?Pro football just became professional wrestling with this phoney decision.