Floyd Mayweather in the UFC

[kickserv]

Floyd Mayweather would get destroyed....he wouldn't even last 1 round......unless it is like boxing...ya know where the whole thing is rigged 50% of the time!

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_y...?slug=dw-mayweather041807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns




What an idiot......I love his comment about Chuck....what a joke:com:

 

[kickserv]

Floyd Mayweather also thinks that:


my Grandma would rear naked chocke GSP in 5 seconds


and


my dog could armbar Cro Crop in 9 seconds

 

[almly]

You need to get a clue. He's exactly right, UFC is for talentless bums who arent good enough to be boxers. So they need to get into a "sport" where they can try some other things. They are B rated talentless bums.

The dumbass that commented about what Mayweather said is a perfect illustration of how stupid these guys are. UFC clowns are better athletes than boxers? - what a retard.


UFC is for fuking losers.

 

[frank s.]

If it's boxing rules, Mayweather beats ANY UFC guy in his weight class. This is a pointless argument as maybe we see Butterbean or some other sideshow act try this nonsense. I like UFC but it ain't professional prize fighting. Apples-oranges.

 

[almly]

No, hes saying using UFC rules. This guy thinks that since UFC clowns have all these other tools besides boxing it would be a mismatch.

These guys are pathetic boxers. In a case like Floyd it would never get to grappling. These guys would get knocked out before it even got to any of that. Its a total mismatch while they are on their feet.

And if world class boxers can slip a punch Im pretty confident they could slip a kick which takes longer to deliver and counter the hell out of these bums while theyre trying to deliver their kicks.

Seriously Franks, how can you even get into that garbage?

 

[kickserv]

almly....your entitled to your opinion....but I must say that you are clueless....completely clueless....I agree with frank to a degree comparing apples to oranges......but if Mayweather stepped into the octagon he would get killed.......


and by the way if you want to compare "athletes" boxers aren't even close to UFC fighters....not even close......I mean what planet do you live on almly..........:shrug:


yes....boxing is a joke of a sport, the ratings are pathetic and there isn't a sport in the world more corrupt.......but if you honestly think Mayweather would beat any UFC fighter in the Octagon you need to have your head examined......because your just plain wrong :nono:



but....as said earlier your entitled to your opinion, I just can't believe anybody could actually think boxers are better athletes and on top of that could actually beat a UFC fighter in UFC rules. And like most boxers....Mayweather is a chicken....talk talk talk.....he knows if Dana White offered him a billion bucks he'd never step in the octagon...deep down he knows he'd get smoked. He knows his sport is a joke and just wants press......I can't blame him for that:SIB

 

[almly]

Jesus christ are all Canadians this ****ing dumb?

Youre like one of those D&D gamers or whatever theyre called, off in your own little world. You think your geeky wannabee sport is just the bomb.

You can think whatever you want to think but the fact of the matter is UFC fighters are bums.

They are more athletic than boxers? You are truly beyond help. They are talentless bums who cant fight with their hands so they have to try to learn a different method. If you want to think they are special you go right ahead. Its your fantasy world.

 

[Blackman]

I had this discussion years ago with someone about Ken Shamrock vs. Mike Tyson -- how Shamrock would get him in all these holds and what not, but I don't see how it could ever come to that. Once Shamrock got with three feet of Tyson he'd have his nose knocked through the back of his head.

As for who is a better athlete, these prize fighters may be the most athletic people in the world, hard to knock them in any way when it comes to their pure skill set.

 

[Blackman]

As for Mayweather, and boxing struggling as a sport -- they are projecting that the fight this weekend will break the PPV record, and the purse could hit 50 million, these guys are doing very well for themselves. Do not think UFC will be offering that kind of cash anytime soon.

 

[frank s.]

Almly; sometimes that's all thats on. I watch it because maybe a wagering opportunity will present itself. I usually ask guys I know who to bet anyway in UFC. Well, anyway I think Mayweather wins on points in a couple of weeks. Remember, you heard it here first!

 

[swayne]

Boxing tougher sport than MMA
Muay Thai tougher sport than MMA
Freestyle wrestling tougher sport than MMA
Greco Roman wrestling tougher sport than MMA
Judo tougher sport than MMA
Brazilian Jiu Jiitsu tougher sport than MMA
Sambo (Borba Sambo) tougher sport than MMA

In no way do I mean that any of the above sports are tougher in terms of requiring more skill, talent, athleticism, conditioning, speed, explosiveness, power, or strength. They are tougher simply for the fact that you are locked into one paticular skill set and you have no options but to compete based on the rules of that sport.

MMA is the TRUTH for the fact that it has the most real world application it's not even a debatable fact.

Almly seriously get a clue. The human leg is longer than the human arm, the distance a low kick has to travel to a lead leg is shorter than the distance a fist has to travel to the chin, it's why the leg kick is one of the best weapons in MMA. Slipping one doesn't apply like slipping a head kick it's apples and oranges. Have you ever seen a traditional Muay Thai match? If you have you would understand distance and see how effective what they refer to as a "teep" kick is for maintaining it. You seem to be under a misconception that MMA fighters don't understand the basic principles of stance, distance, circling, and footwork.....it's not like they stand in the octagon or ring with their feet glued together leading with their face. Not to mention they wouldn't stand there and trade with a great boxer, they would clinch take it to the ground and have their way, it's impossible to KO someone when they have you in a greco clinch or on the ground. You may not be aware but MMA is loaded with former Sambo world champions, BJJ world champions, NCAA champion wrestlers, Olympic Judo medal winners, Olympic Freestyle and Greco Roman medal winners. These are eltie level grapplers who can take down other elite level grapplers at will, how in the world do you think someone with absolutely no grappling skill will be able to avoid being taken down? Next time you get into a scuffle stand there and try to follow the Marquess of Queensberry rules and see how well it works when someone slams you through the ground and chokes you out.

Dana White has offered Mayweather the chance to fight Sean Sherk.... the lock of the millenium is that the fight wouldn't even last 3 minutes and Sherk would destory him. BM your my boy but I def disagree on that one, Shamrock in his prime would destroy Tyson and submit him at will it wouldn't even be close. Back in the 90's when Tyson was claiming to be the baddest man on earth and Shamrock was fighting in Pancrase in Japan and the early UFC....Shamrock challenged him to numerous fights and even went as far to submit the following to Tyson and his camp. "If Mike Tyson thinks he is so tough. I challenge him in a charity match in the octagon, if he beats me i'll donate one million dollars to any charity of his choice. But if I beat him then he has to donate one hundred thousand dollars to my charity." Tyson would never accept just like Mayweather will never accept the challenge.

I used to be biased having grown up with boxing. It is the first sport I was introduced to as a child and ever witnessed live in person or on TV. My great grandfather was a professional prize fighter and my uncle was a city golden glove champ. As long as I can remember it was my favorite sport and I still enjoy it, but to deny that it's on the decline would be stupid. MMA is on a meteoric rise, is a better sport, and is the future.

PPV STATS JAN-OCT 2006
1. BOX Oscar DeLa Hoya vs. Ricardo Mayorga 925,000
2. UFC Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock 775,000
3. UFC Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn 700,000
4. WWE Wrestlemania 636,000
5. UFC Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie 600,000
6. UFC Chuck Liddell vs. Renato Sobral 500,000
7. UFC Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin 425,000
8. BOX Shane Mosely vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000
9. UFC Chuck Liddell vs. Randy Couture 400,000
10.BOX Floyd Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375,000

The 4 other big boxing ppv events of 2006 all were outside the top 10.

 

[swayne]

http://blog.compete.com/2007/04/20/ufc-ultimate-fighting-championship-popularity-growth/

 

[kickserv]

Swayne...............very well said :clap:

And I was going to show the stats on how bad the ratings for boxing are....but ya beat me to it :SIB


And you'll have to forgive almly, he loves the world he lives in. He's clueless as to what a UFC fighter is, and nothing will change his mind. You gave great points as to how Mayweather would get destroyed.....I mean there isn't even an arguement to be made. How anyone could actually think that Mayweather could step in the octagon with UFC rules and beat anu UFC fighter is just laughable!

And I'm sure almly is just like 90% of the boxers out there.......talk talk talk.....Mayweather is a little chicken, he'll talk all day about how he'd dominate the UFC, but would never ever step into the Octagon. He'd never do it! And I remember when Shamrock challenged Tyson and said all money would go to charity, and even Tyson declined. Most boxers know that they get killed in a UFC fight under UFC rules and all UFC fighters know they would get killed in a boxing ring under boxing rules. The difference is you have complete morons like almly who simply don't have a clue what they are talking about.

Also...in another 3-4 years MMA will be light years ahead of boxing....just look what is happening on Spike and now HBO is doing UFC.


And remember almly.....in order to make a valid arguement you might want to actually know a tad about what a UFC fighter is.....food for thought:SIB



Mayweather (and others)....all talk.....he'll never step into the Octagon......never :SIB


Also.....to actually say that a boxer is a better athlete then a UFC fighter might be the dumbest statement I have ever read on this site....ever!



And for what it is worth.......I have never played D@D. Actually I used to be a professional ATHLETE, so I might have a tiny clue on what I am talking about when I use the term "athlete"



almly........read swayne's post once a day for one month, it'll be good for you. Then, perhaps maybe you can join us on planet earth:SIB

 

[kickserv]

http://blog.compete.com/2007/04/20/ufc-ultimate-fighting-championship-popularity-growth/


very nice stuff swayne.....good info indeed :SIB



I like this paragraph:

The sport?s detractors have called the UFC a flash in the pan, but the growth in consumer interest doesn?t show any sign of slowing. As of this writing, the UFC is the fastest growing sport in America, with a 106% year over year increase in online interest. The NHL, rebounding nicely from a holdout-cancelled 2004-2005 season, was a distant second with 35% growth.




boxing = death............talk about decline :SIB

 

[Blackman]

Swayne,

I stand corrected -- could sware we've had this conversation before as well. Probably wasn't paying attention, was too distracted by talks of e-credits.

 

[gardenweasel]

maybe floyd could be a ringcard girl.....that`s about it...

he is awful purdy....

seriously...remember that we`re talking apples and oranges...

stand up in mma is different than boxing....different stance...different defense...the gloves....doesn`t take much of a shot to put a guy on his arse in mma....how many times have we seen guys stunned by a jab in mma?....

honestly...it`s so different....

i haven`t seen any mma guys that could stand in with a floyd,jr.....

and honestly,i wouldn`t like floyd`s chances in an mma fight with a gsp....what`s gsp`s weight?....170?....somebody like gsp...say the hawaiian dude....


i`ll say this...i`m a boxing guy....but,i`d rather be in a street fight with a boxer... not as much crap to think about........

one thing to consider...without further training.....as they are....if you took them as they are....an mma has a modicum of boxing training....
a boxer would be dead meat vs a jiu jitsu guy if he got close enough to grab him....

then again....it`s scary to think about certain boxers with those little gloves on....i can`t imagine floyd`s hand speed with those little biscuits on his hands....

they are different sports...very different...

almly...what`s with you?....you just show up to cause a ruckus?....keeping track of you is like pissing up a rope....

can we put a fricking bell around your neck?....

 

[kickserv]

gardenweasel....well said :SIB


oh and Floyd couldn't be an octagon girl.....he'd never get that close to an octagon:mj07:


GSP versus Floyd.......holy crap :scared Not even I would want to see that......that would be just plain pathetic....

 

[kickserv]

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20070420_GROWING__ULTIMATE_LEE.html

 

[kickserv]

Mayweather shoots his mouth off again today....maybe he and almly are buddies :mj07:

 

[amhlilhaus]

this is such a tiresome topic. mma has a total hard on for boxing, probably because they see the salaries top boxers make, realize their (the boxers) not at the mercy of a penny pinching monopoly which now exists in mma.

bringing up mma's ppv numbers vis a vis boxing is also sleight of hand. ufc is running on a huge popularity surge right now, and each card is like a all star lineup, something boxing's politics would never allow, if boxing had oscar de la hoya, marco antonio barrera, manny paqciao etc. on every card in decent fights they'd draw ufc type numbers. ultimately ufc is cresting right now, the fans are becoming more educated and realize that a lot of their cards are stacked with mismatches, that they charge top dollar for bullshit and while the top stars will still pull good numbers, the other cards will start coming way down I believe. that's an excellent thing since they're gunning for free tv on mainstream cable like hbo, and I LOVE free fights.

I love both sports, but let's call a spade a spade, mma is not boxing, boxing is not mma, and the fact remains, a top in his prime boxer has never fought mma, maybe they never will, but if they did they would need a couple of years of ground training, and just remember, cro cop was just a k-1 fighter and see the transition he's made. a dedicated top boxer with unreal athleticism could learn plenty of the ground work in a short time, and they'd be extremely dangerous. but stepping straight into the octagon? the fight would last as long as the mma fighter stepping into the boxing ring.