Gas Prices Skyrocket Under Obama

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The same kooks that blamed high gas prices on Bush last summer, will be defending Obama this summer, while the kooks that defended Bush last year are already blaming Obama.
It's the President's duty (no matter who it is) to promote an energy policy that's in the best interest of our country and the environment. I've always believed that high oil and gas prices create a dark cloud with a silver lining -- incentive to get off the fossil fuels teet. While the Republicans chanted "Drill baby, drill!!" throughout the Presidential campaign last year, Obama saw the opportunity it presented to promote an energy policy based on alternative fuel sources.

Cheap crude only delays what needs to be done -- focus all our efforts and resources on developing alternative fuels and the infrastructure to generate and deliver them. I hope Obama continues to push our energy policy in that direction over the next 3.5 years regardless of the irrational fluctuations in the price of crude. If he doesn't, I'll be the first in line to criticize him for not pursuing the energy policy he campaigned on.
 

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How the price drop down from 4.05. There was a election coming. Im guessing Obama won,t let the nations average go over 3 bucks with out taking action. It,s 2.65 now.

Dave I don't know what action he could take to stop it? I certainly don't think he has had any impact on gas prices--yet.

--but certainly look for him to in the future with the left beating the gas tax drums again and saying $5 gas would be good for us--would force us to drive less.--- No shit :)
 

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How the price drop down from 4.05. There was a election coming. Im guessing Obama won,t let the nations average go over 3 bucks with out taking action. It,s 2.65 now.

And just what action do you expect him to take. Not a dang thing. He doesn't control the price of gas. He can't stop traders from putting a value on it and he can't make refineries put out more. The president doesn't have anything to do with prices and it's sad because so many people said it was Bush's fault because he was in bed with the Saudis. What will everyone's excuse be now.

The BIG concern I have is that when gas rose in the last few years, the dollar gained tremendous value but so far while gas prices have risen the dollar has lost ground. That is not a very good sign and something to worry about.
 

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Hilarious. Two guys up to their neck with the oil industry had nothing to do with sky rocket oil prices. How fukin gullible can people be?

http://www.gregpalast.com/its-still-the-oilsecret-condi-meeting-on-oil-before-invasion/

It's STILL The Oil:
Secret Condi Meeting on Oil Before Invasion

by Greg Palast

Four years ago this week, the tanks rolled for what President Bush originally called, "Operation Iraqi Liberation" -- O.I.L.
I kid you not.

And it was four years ago that, from the White House, George Bush, declaring war, said, "I want to talk to the Iraqi people." That Dick Cheney didn't tell Bush that Iraqis speak Arabic ? well, never mind. I expected the President to say something like, "Our troops are coming to liberate you, so don't shoot them." Instead, Mr. Bush told, the Iraqis,

"Do not destroy oil wells."

Nevertheless, the Bush Administration said the war had nothing to do with Iraq's oil. Indeed, in 2002, the State Department stated, and its official newsletter, the Washington Post, repeated, that State's Iraq study group, "does not have oil on its list of issues."

But now, we've learned that, despite protestations to the contrary, Condoleezza Rice held a secret meeting with the former Secretary-General of OPEC, Fadhil Chalabi, an Iraqi, and offered Chalabi the job of Oil Minister for Iraq. (It is well established that the President of the United States may appoint the cabinet ministers of another nation if that appointment is confirmed by the 101st Airborne.)

In all the chest-beating about how the war did badly, no one seems to remember how the war did very, very well -- for Big Oil.

The war has kept Iraq's oil production to 2.1 million barrels a day from pre-war, pre-embargo production of over 4 million barrels. In the oil game, that's a lot to lose. In fact, the loss of Iraq's 2 million barrels a day is equal to the entire planet's reserve production capacity.

In other words, the war has caused a hell of a supply squeeze -- and Big Oil just loves it. Oil today is $57 a barrel versus the $18 a barrel price under Bill "Love-Not-War" Clinton.

Since the launch of Operation Iraqi Liberation, Halliburton stock has tripled to $64 a share -- not, as some believe, because of those Iraq reconstruction contracts -- peanuts for Halliburton. Cheney's former company's main business is "oil services." And, as one oilman complained to me, Cheney's former company has captured a big hunk of the rise in oil prices by jacking up the charges for Halliburton drilling and piping equipment.

But before we shed tears for Big Oil's having to hand Halliburton its slice, let me note that the value of the reserves of the five biggest oil companies more than doubled during the war to $2.36 trillion.

And that was the plan: putting a new floor under the price of oil. I have that in writing. In 2005, after a two-year battle with the State and Defense Departments, they released to my team at BBC Newsnight the "Options for a Sustainable Iraqi Oil Industry." Now, you might think our government shouldn't be writing a plan for another nation's oil. Well, our government didn't write it, despite the State Department seal on the cover. In fact, we discovered that the 323-page plan was drafted in Houston by oil industry executives and consultants.

The suspicion is that Bush went to war to get Iraq's oil. That's not true. The document, and secret recordings of those in on the scheme, made it clear that the Administration wanted to make certain America did not get the oil. In other words, keep the lid on Iraq's oil production -- and thereby keep the price of oil high.

Of course, the language was far more subtle than, "Let's cut Iraq's oil production and jack up prices." Rather, the report uses industry jargon and euphemisms which require Iraq to remain an obedient member of the OPEC cartel and stick to the oil-production limits -- "quotas" -- which keep up oil prices.

The Houston plan, enforced by an army of occupation, would, "enhance [Iraq's] relationship with OPEC," the oil cartel.

And that's undoubtedly why Condoleezza Rice asked Fadhil Chalabi to take charge of Iraq's Oil Ministry. As former chief operating officer of OPEC, the oil cartel, Fadhil was a Big Oil favorite, certain to ensure that Iraq would never again allow the world to slip back to the Clinton era of low prices and low profits. (In investigating for BBC, I was told by the former chief of the CIA's oil unit that he'd met with Fadhil regarding oil at Bush's request. Fadhil recently complained to the BBC. He denied the meeting with the Bush emissary in London because, he noted, he was secretly meeting that week in Washington with Condi!)

Fadhil, by the way, turned down Condi's offer to run Iraq's Oil Ministry. Ultimately, Iraq's Oil Ministry was given to Fadhil's fellow tribesman, Ahmad Chalabi, a convicted bank swindler and neo-con idol. But whichever Chalabi is nominal head of Iraq's oil industry in Baghdad, the orders come from Houston. Indeed, the oil law adopted by Iraq's shaky government this month is virtually a photocopy of the "Options" plan first conceived in Texas long before Iraq was "liberated."

In other words, the war has gone exactly to plan -- the Houston plan. So forget the na?ve cloth-rending about a conflict gone haywire. Exxon-Mobil reported a record $10 billion profit last quarter, the largest of any corporation in history. Mission Accomplished.

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Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestseller, Armed Madhouse: From Baghdad to New Orleans -- Sordid Secrets and Strange Tales of a White House Gone Wild. A new edition, updated and expanded, will be released April 24.
 

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"I have Karl Rove's emails"

Read the Interview with Palast from the Dollars & Sense magazine spring issue about to hit the streets ?Dollars & Sense: In the new edition of your book, ARMED MADHOUSE, you report on the theft of the 2008 election. How do know what they're doing? Any way to stop them?

Palast: I know because I have Karl Rove's emails. No kidding. He and his team aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. They sent copies of their plans to GeorgeWBush.ORG instead of GeorgeWBush.COM addresses -- and, heh heh, they ended up in my in-box. Who says this job ain't fun?

Dollars & Sense: Bush fired eight prosecutors. You were behind the scenes on that story long before it broke in the US. What are they still withholding from us?

Palast: Look, it's all about VOTES. You'll see that the prosecutor that Karl Rove insisted in putting in place is a slithery character named Tim Griffin. He's the guy I busted as the spider-mind behind the "caging lists" which purged thousands of Black voters. The prosecutors fired, as you'll see in Armed Madhouse, include those, like David Iglesias in New Mexico, who refused to bring phony cases of fraud against legitimate voters. It's a matter of economics: the Republican party is systematically knocking out lower-income voters; that makes their purges racially biased -- but my data show that's just the effect of hunting down and attacking the ballot power of working class and poor voters. Disenfranchisement is class war by other means.

Dollars & Sense: Why the hell hasn?t the U.S. press covered the story of Bush?s vultures, election?s theft, Iraq?s oil or any of the other stories you've put on the front pages in Europe?

Palast: Robert Kennedy Jr. just complained to the head of ABC News about the blackout on my stories. (ABC has the right to take my stuff from BBC for free.) I'm not holding my breath for an answer. I call it, The Silence of the Media Lambs. We've got loads of terrific investigative reporters in America, but gutless editors. So the suck-ups to power get the choice posts in metropolitan dailies and on the networks.

Think of the punishment inflicted for the crime of investigative reporting. Seymour Hersh told me he was forced out of the New York Times and Bob Parry, the guy who busted open the Iran-Contra story, was pushed out of the Associated Press. On the other hand, Bob Woodward, who had his journalistic tongue up George Bush's rectum, who went from writing 'All the President's Men' to being one of the President's men, is doing just fine.

Dollars & Sense: Many progressives are focused on privatization of the Iraqi economy, including its oil industry, as Bush?s real goal for the invasion. But you write about two radically different plans within the administration, the neo-cons? versus Big Oil?s?and Big Oil?s plan was the one opposed to privatization. What?s going on here? Plus: any update on how privatization and the whole neo-liberal reshaping of the Iraqi economy are going?

Palast: A lot of intelligent folk believe Bush had a secret plan to grab the oil fields of Iraq before the tanks rolled. That's wrong. He had TWO plans. In Armed Madhouse, I show you both -- the result of two years undercover for BBC. The plans conflict. There's the neo-con plan: Privatize -- that is, sell off -- everything, "especially the oil" industry. That's a quote from the 101-page document which I learned was written by the neo-cons. That didn't happen -- because a Jim Baker team -- he's the lawyer for both Exxon and Saudi Arabia -- secretly wrote a 323-page plan that called for CONTROLLING the oil flow, not owning it. The purpose was to LIMIT the supply of oil from Iraq and keep prices high. This would, "enhance [Iraq's] relationship with OPEC" -- the oil cartel. That's a quote from the document you're not supposed to see.

So here it is: the invasion was about LIMITING the flow of oil from Iraq, keeping prices high, not grabbing the oil to bring prices down for your SUV. The secret Baker plan is now the law in Iraq and prices are over $50 a barrel. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Dollars & Sense: We?ve covered some of the less-told stories of Venezuela under Chavez?for example, how he?s dramatically expanding the co-operative sector of the economy. Some progressives worry though: is he a populist demagogue, maybe in the Juan Peron mold, or is he really committed to worker autonomy, democracy, and all that good stuff? You?ve talked with Hugo Chavez. What?s your take?

Palast: Chavez recommends that everyone read my book, so obviously I think he's the greatest statesman since Lincoln. But seriously, folks, what makes the guy an astonishing threat to the Bush World Order is that he insists on keeping the cash from the sale of Venezuela's oil -- shock of shocks! -- in Venezuela! With some lent to the rest of Latin America. Up until now, Venezuela sold us oil then immediately shifted the funds back to the US Federal Reserve. Chavez withdrew the funds from the Fed and, Heaven help us, spent it on building his own nation's economy. Is he a "demogogue"? The word means, spokesman for the people. That he is. Fun trivia: RFK Jr. reminded me that Chavez picked up the line, "Whiff of sulfur" in speaking of Bush from my last book which he had just read.

Dollars & Sense: You write about how, depending on the price of oil over time, Venezuela?s oil could turn out to be a pivot point of huge geopolitical change. Can you explain?

Palast: Internal US Department of Energy analysis (I got my hands on it for BBC; it's in the book) shows that Venezuela, not Saudi Arabia, has the largest reserve of crude. That's a geo-political earthquake.

Dollars & Sense: Are you really convinced that a big devaluation of the Chinese currency would be meaningless in terms of saving U.S. manufacturing jobs by making Chinese exports more expensive? Then why are U.S. policymakers across the political spectrum so obsessed with getting China to devalue its currency?

Palast: You're really asking, Why do politicians feed us bullshit? That's a whole book right there. Both parties are winking and nodding and giggling behind your back that the way to save jobs is to change the value of China's money. It's a brilliant cover for the bi-partisan banging the American worker received with the one-two punch of NAFTA and 'Most Favored Nation' trade status for China. There are 700 Wal-Mart plants in China -- zero in the USA. Hillary Clinton was on the board of Wal-Mart when that shift went into full swing. No wonder she's joining George Bush in talking about baloney like "exchange rates."

Greg Palast is author of ARMED MADHOUSE: From Baghdad to New Orleans -- Sordid Secrets and Strange Tales of a White House Gone Wild, by Greg Palast, newly released in an updated, expanded edition; now in paperback. For more info go to www.GregPalast.com

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Now that you've made some sense...common sense out of this and have made two great post on the reasons for the price of OIL , I've got to wonder if the people that are Bush/Cheney fans will still argue the point that they had no control over the price of OIL.
I'm pretty much equal on the hate that I have for all politicians.
If Obama gets health care through then i'll have some higher respect for him.
I don't expect much from any politician, they are pawns and they really don't do anything except from day ONE they are trying to get RE ELECTED.
Why would anyone bitch at spending a trillion on health care when that CHICKENHAWK SOB BUSH lied to us and the world and got us into an illegal WAR at the cost of a trillion ,mininum !!
The people are just stupid when it comes to the buying and selling of AMERICA.
Bush took us to WAR,an illegal war and lied to get us their and the stupid people say hey thats O-K !! Now how stupid is that.
All that come to this forum are SLAVES to the CORPORATIONS .You are serving a master of GOLDEN IDOLS.... We have lost our way and can't seem to find the answer that we seek.
The book tells us that the day will come that the masses will work all day for the food that we consume.
The powers that run the show are so controlling... they have turned republican against democrat to the point of such hate that one will kill the other.
We are one big melting pot !!
We are well on our way to the NEW WORLD ORDER.... We took a giant step forward in 2000 with LITTLE BUSH.
 

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Sponge, when gas hits 4$ a gallon again what will you say? Will it still be Bush's fault? Or do you have it in you to blame Obama?

It's neither one of thems fault, get over trying to blame someone. Prices rise and prices fall but after all these years we're doing very well with where gas prices are, even if it's a 4 a gallon.
 

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If it hits 4 bucks a gallon and the Oil Companies are making record profits then you bet I will be calling for Obama to be impeached. I am not for a gas tax either but I weould rather see a tax than profits to Big Oil.
 

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Stevie, at least you'll bang on both sides man. I can appreciate that. I don't like either side and think they're both sucking the life out of our country.
 

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Stevie, at least you'll bang on both sides man. I can appreciate that. I don't like either side and think they're both sucking the life out of our country.

I have to agree with you on that. Bush was the worst but I didn't see Pelosi and the gang do anything to stop him. I am giving Obama some rope because what he took over was a country about to go Bankrupt but I do not see him doing anything yet for the average working man yet so my patience is running thin.
 

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If it hits 4 bucks a gallon and the Oil Companies are making record profits then you bet I will be calling for Obama to be impeached. I am not for a gas tax either but I weould rather see a tax than profits to Big Oil.

what is wrong with you people, why else would a company be in business? TO MAKE PROFIT, invest some of your extra money in oil stocks and profit along with em, thats my theory if you can't beat em join em...
 

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Sponge, when gas hits 4$ a gallon again what will you say? Will it still be Bush's fault? Or do you have it in you to blame Obama?

It's neither one of thems fault, get over trying to blame someone. Prices rise and prices fall but after all these years we're doing very well with where gas prices are, even if it's a 4 a gallon.

I sure will. I won't become a shill for a crook just because i live in his state. You keep on thinking that two guys up to their necks in the oil industry had nothing to do with the prices, and one of them holds secret energy meetings, and i will believe in common sense. If these two no good con men were invested in water it would have cost us ten dollars to take a shower.
 
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I have to agree with you on that. Bush was the worst but I didn't see Pelosi and the gang do anything to stop him. I am giving Obama some rope because what he took over was a country about to go Bankrupt but I do not see him doing anything yet for the average working man yet so my patience is running thin.

Isn't it funny how the Dems can get away with basically anything now but somehow they won't and want to work with Republicans but when the Republicans had the chance they went right for the jugular? The only answer is to beat some of these weak pricks in the primary but then that was done with Lieberman and the cocksucker got around it thanks to these spiteful braindead neocon thinking Republicans.
 

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You all ask what can Obama do? I don,t know what price this will happen at. I,ll guess 3 bucks. He will open up the reserves. And also freeze price.
 

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Isn't it funny how the Dems can get away with basically anything now but somehow they won't and want to work with Republicans but when the Republicans had the chance they went right for the jugular? The only answer is to beat some of these weak pricks in the primary but then that was done with Lieberman and the cocksucker got around it thanks to these spiteful braindead neocon thinking Republicans.

well we voted those Republican Crooks out out and this idiot Obama wants to "work" with them. Why? We voted them out because we wanted change. I don't think we got it. But I am giving him a little more time.
 

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I sure will. I won't become a shill for a crook just because i live in his state. You keep on thinking that two guys up to their necks in the oil industry had nothing to do with the prices, and one of them holds secret energy meetings, and i will believe in common sense. If these two no good con men were invested in water it would have cost us ten dollars to take a shower.

Sponge, gas prices are well on there way bud. I'm going to keep this thread in my memory so when it hits 4$, I'll remember you said he was a crook. I have a feeling there will be excuses other than secret meetings and up to his neck in oil.

Sponge answer me this-What are we to think if the price of gas goes back to where it was during the high and the value of our dollar continues to get killed? At least under Bush the dollar gained value at a record pace when the price of gas was going up. Since O has taken office the dollar has gotten killed. This is not a good thing for both to be happening at the same time. If oil goes up our dollar should be strong but it's not.
 

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Sponge, gas prices are well on there way bud. I'm going to keep this thread in my memory so when it hits 4$, I'll remember you said he was a crook. I have a feeling there will be excuses other than secret meetings and up to his neck in oil.

Sponge answer me this-What are we to think if the price of gas goes back to where it was during the high and the value of our dollar continues to get killed? At least under Bush the dollar gained value at a record pace when the price of gas was going up. Since O has taken office the dollar has gotten killed. This is not a good thing for both to be happening at the same time. If oil goes up our dollar should be strong but it's not.

I could be wrong but wasn't the dollar getting killed when gas was going up?
 

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Sponge answer me this-What are we to think if the price of gas goes back to where it was during the high and the value of our dollar continues to get killed? At least under Bush the dollar gained value at a record pace when the price of gas was going up. Since O has taken office the dollar has gotten killed. This is not a good thing for both to be happening at the same time. If oil goes up our dollar should be strong but it's not.
The deregulation of the banking and housing industries builds a house of cards that comes tumbling down under the Bush Administration and you want us to believe the dollar was strong when Obama took office? You're joking, right?

That's a spin that only Weasel could appreciate.
 
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