Gay Marriage Leads To Bestiality
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Agreed. I've always wondered about this, even when I was a kid. An example -- as a single homeowner, my income tax return is substantially less than if I was married. Ummmm, why? And a married couple gets less than a married couple who has kids. Again, why?
I guess the argument for the kids scenario is that a family with kids needs the money more than people who don't have kids (although I'm not sure I agree with people getting more money because they made the decision to have kids). As far as the other scenario though, I don't see why a married couple should get more money than a single person. If anything, you would think the single person would need more of a break since it's only one income. :shrug:
ok guys...let's keep this thread on topic; BESTIALITY, :SIB otherwise lets send this thread to the Politics and Religion forum...:lol: :lol:
I don't know of any rights or privileges that benefit a married couple more than a single person unless it's income taxes. If we're talking taxes, that isn't such a great difference anymore. In fact, if you own your home and want to itemize, being single could be seen as beneficial because the threshold for itemization will be lower and, therefore, easier to attain. If there are other benefits, please tell me what they are and I'll try to address them as well.
With respect to the civil union vs marriage argument, I had to do a little research myself because it seemed to me to be a matter of semantics. I found an excellent article at http://www.massequality.org/ourwork/marriage/marriagevscivilunions.pdf that helped me to understand the difference. Basically, the concept of civil union was created by the state of Vermont to try to appease same-sex proponents with a semblance of equality. It is only a state recognition and holds no power Federally. In fact, it creates even more confusion when trying to complete forms and identify oneself with respect to legal status.
Civil unions still hold same-sex unions separate and apart from the legal benefits provided by marriage. As others have stated here, civil unions do not convey the right to establish legal residency or immigrant status. They are not "portable", that is to say that they are not recognized in other jurisdictions as a legal union. Conversely, they can only be overturned (divorce) in the state in which they were created. If a man and woman are married in, for instance, Las Vegas, their marriage is recognized as legal wherever they reside in the US and can be dissolved through divorce in one's local jurisdiction. In the case of civil union, the contract is only recognized as legal and binding in the state in which it is performed and can only be dissolved by that same state.
Marriage affords Federal protection for many other benefits, i.e. Social Security survivor benefits, leave from work for spousal illness, the right to make legal decisions for one's spouse when they can't and inheritance rights. It also represents true equality in the public perception and recognization of two people who love and have committed to one another.
There is a difference in civil union and marriage. Who am I to deny the right to marry (and even subsequently divorce) from any adult, just because they are different from me? Another couple's business doesn't directly affect me either way. Why can't we live and let live?
Disclaimer: It is assumed that we are speaking of adult humans, so don't start again with the bestiality, NAMBLA argument. As far as polygamy, I don't really care.
that`s what i was saying....figuring a way to afford gay folks the goodies without actually calling it "marriage"...because like it or not,you`re pissing in more people`s cornflakes than making people happy by calling it a legal marriage....
you may think they`re not progressive enough for your liking,but,more people are against calling gay unions "marriage" than are for it..imf used an example citing that there wasn`t enough people clamoring for polygamy to make it an issue...well truthfuly,with the exception of certain pockets around the country,there isn`t enough political oomph to push the gay marriage issue...yet..they`re in the minority...a very vocal minority,granted.....sorry,but that`s just a fact...
as i said,obama publicly came out against it...i don`t really believe in his heart he feels that way...he`s a progressive to the core...but,he realizes it could be a political liability if he came out publicly for gay marriage...
that`s the way politics works...you stick your finger in the wind and make your decisions accordingly...:shrug:
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I think marriage should only be one man and one woman. I may be old fashioned but at least I have principles. I understand gay's are people too, I really dont give a shit, I just have a problem with it being recognized as a legal marriage. :shrug:
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That's a big step, do you understand that people are gay ?
They are all around you, every where.
Actors, musicians, politicians, law enforcement, bankers, teachers, mothers, fathers......
Deal with it !
yeah, I know, I work with one :sadwave: he thinks nobody knows:142smilie
why do you think some people are gay? you think they are born that way or is it a product of their environment? what do you think :0corn
It's not a product of environment, have you ever been around a gay child, a toddler?
Read B.F. Skinner's "Walden II" Quite the MIND FUCK of a book, and Skinner, in my opinion is an asshole.
Angelina Jolie is a "Switch Hitter" are her parents gay?
And what about all the other gay people in the world for that matter, are their parents gay that led to their "lifestyle"? Most gay people deep down will tell you they would rather not be gay and live a "normal" heterosexual lifestyle. Being gay is not a choice, it's not dictated by environment, not dictated if a young boy is at home with his mother and watches fashion shows on the E Network or other MIND WARPING CRAP.
Your religion is over riding your common sense and common decency to accept people for who they are. Get over yourself, get over "THE BOOK" you really need to relax and accept everyone, except the assholes, killers, rapists and child molestors of course and just hang out with everyone. I hate to say it or sound like I am taking a page from Barry's book, but people have been having "Beer Summits" for a long time before chuckle head did it.
I am a student of people and life. I go on anthropology projects all the time just to get to know more people. I get invited to parties all the time by my employees, two hispanics, born here, but they are a blast, I am the only white face there. I go to many different bars around town just to get out and meet people, I really don't care who they are, what the do, black, hispanic, gay, lesbian, whatever ? I want to know and understand people because how can I criticize or defend them with out really knowing them? DO you think Limbaugh. Beck or Savage goes outside their tight little circle and take off their hoods to do this ? NO ! they read off a script and press releases, they have interns put together the show for them ! They are so myopic and hateful and get so wound up I am suprised that their hearts, if they even have one, don't explode?
Step outside your circle Hedge, get out and know someone different. The "Fags" aren't always thinking about fucking you. Go in the bar, relax talk to people, if they hit on you tell them no thanks, it's just that simple. Don't get all riled up.
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Read B.F. Skinner's "Walden II" Quite the MIND FUCK of a book, and Skinner, in my opinion is an asshole.
Angelina Jolie is a "Switch Hitter" are her parents gay?
And what about all the other gay people in the world for that matter, are their parents gay that led to their "lifestyle"? Most gay people deep down will tell you they would rather not be gay and live a "normal" heterosexual lifestyle. Being gay is not a choice, it's not dictated by environment, not dictated if a young boy is at home with his mother and watches fashion shows on the E Network or other MIND WARPING CRAP.
Your religion is over riding your common sense and common decency to accept people for who they are. Get over yourself, get over "THE BOOK" you really need to relax and accept everyone, except the assholes, killers, rapists and child molestors of course and just hang out with everyone. I hate to say it or sound like I am taking a page from Barry's book, but people have been having "Beer Summits" for a long time before chuckle head did it.
I am a student of people and life. I go on anthropology projects all the time just to get to know more people. I get invited to parties all the time by my employees, two hispanics, born here, but they are a blast, I am the only white face there. I go to many different bars around town just to get out and meet people, I really don't care who they are, what the do, black, hispanic, gay, lesbian, whatever ? I want to know and understand people because how can I criticize or defend them with out really knowing them? DO you think Limbaugh. Beck or Savage goes outside their tight little circle and take off their hoods to do this ? NO ! they read off a script and press releases, they have interns put together the show for them ! They are so myopic and hateful and get so wound up I am suprised that their hearts, if they even have one, don't explode?
Step outside your circle Hedge, get out and know someone different. The "Fags" aren't always thinking about fucking you. Go in the bar, relax talk to people, if they hit on you tell them no thanks, it's just that simple. Don't get all riled up.
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obviously u have a problem with gay people. Just seems weird that u agreed to meet Woodson when u have this problem.:shrug:
Always hated this bullshit. Being punished because i didn't want to get married.
How many straight friends do this now? :shrug:
I doubt that many. So why would they start?
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People are born gay. I always liked women, never had a choice.. I never woke up one day and thought, "I think I will choose to be gay today."
