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[fletcher]

#1 i never called the guy 1 name #2 live in my world for 4 months out here and you might understand what i am talking about with people who gamble like him,i think i have just alittle clue in the world of gamming since i have been out here for awhile,its not all glitter and lights like you see on tlc in there vegas specials,you have more down and out and people who sell their food stamps to feed their children just to try to get that 1 big hit.
no i wasnot hard on him i was real with him which a few of you guys werenot,you acted as if hey thats great,well its not great it is a problem the way he does things and he will hurt people if he hasnot already done it before and i know he busted out 4 months ago,i said i was glad he won but he was wrong in his ways,so i owe no-one anythung except what i gave the truth,till you livied in a town that #1 business is gaming you cannot see the light and things that i have,if you didnot like what i said sorry for that but someone needs to kick the guy in the ass to wake him up.trust me i am sure i know more about the down and out families and people that have lost it all do to gammining.

 

[gridman]

Well said Fletcher. Money management is the key in all sports betting. I learned the hard way and believe me, since 1981, I have never experienced a losing year. GM

 

[buddy]

Somebody better pay attention to what Fletcher is saying here.

Seems a lot of guys are quick to say, "Great Call" on the handicapping, but when a veteran sportsbettor issues a caution or reprimand on the money management side of the play, he gets criticized.

Somebody better get their head out of their ass..

and it ain't Fletcher.

 

[gridman]

AMEN to that Buddy!

 

[theGibber1]

fletch i dont disagree with what you said, it was the way you said it, you sounded rude and insensitive. giveing a guy a word of advice is one thing, but verbally bashing someone after they offer a free pick is another..


i just dont agree with calling someone an idiot in there own post. everyone here is a grown up. if hello there wants to blow his money that should be his business. bottom line this is america and he is an adult its nobodys damn business what he does with his money. i dont agree w/ his money managment hell no!!!! thats not the point, the point is he offered a pick that he really liked FOR FREE FLETCH....trying to help..

i am aware of your religious following in here and im not expecting to be real popular with this...but im sick of people bad mouthing other handicappers in there own post when all they are doing is offering free advice....

good luck to you fletch

 

[ddubs]

Gibber, I think Fletch was trying the "tough love" approach. Sometimes you have to knock them upside the head to get the point through, you know? Unfortunately, I don't think it got through to him. I'm glad he won last nite, but I remember the Minny pick and how I would have felt had I lost my whole wad on that play.

 

[ddubs]

I like Master Nguyen's approach myself......had a bad nite? go home, take a couple of sleeping pills, wake up in the morning a new man, and go back to war!!

 

[Dizzayton]

People do tend to get pissed when someone cautions them about gambling, but I think it has to be done. Especially to friends because when it comes down to it, nothing is a sure thing in gambling, so why put your whole bank roll on one game.
If the person ignores advice and continues betting their whole bank roll on single games they will go broke, probably sooner than later. If they don't listen to advice, then fine, because your right it is a free country and people can do as they choose, but at least we can say we warned him.
Everyone is looking for that quick score, and it does happen, but in the long run that strategy is destined to fail. My strategy, for what its worth, is to bet in increments of about 10-30% of my bank roll, with a goal of building up until I am in a position unload on a strong play, and then I do. If I hit it I'm up big, if not I'm still on my feet. It has worked for me as I've more than tripled my bank roll this year. I also feel that the safest play is to bet even numbers of games every night so that if you are a strong capper you will at worst break even on most nights, rarely lose both and every couple weeks are so go on a huge streak that will put you up big. Anyway, to each his own and good luck to you whatever your strategy may be. The best way to learn a lesson is to learn it the hard way.

 

[theGibber1]

im not defending that guys actions!!! jesus thats the point i dont have any idea who he is, i could give a damn about what he does.. i would simply rather people say thank you an be on there way when someone offers a top pick..will this guy have a bankroll for super bowl? probably not, but what business is it of mine??


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[bcj920]

Unfortunately, Gibber, you just turned this post down the wrong street. This is a forum about gambling and everyone knows that in gambling there is a very fine line between success and failure. All that Fletcher was trying to do is help the guy out by trying to get it through his head to appreciate the wins and manage your losses. Everytime someone tries to give advice around here someone gets offended. Lighten up, and just admit that you should have kept your mouth shut and moved on. Fletcher and everyone else were right on. If Fletcher didn't give a shit about others here he wouldnt have wasted his time. Usually its the moron's that root against the guy so they can rub it in his face that he lost it all. Never understood why Losers rag other Losers. There is not one regular here that wanted to see him lose that bet, but every regular would wish he would appreciate gambling for what it is. We are all trying to be on the right side of that fine line, all of us knowing that it is not easy.

Just my opinion

Bobby

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[theGibber1]

your right bcj920 this is a forum about gambling, so lets get back to it, im tired of this conversation..

first pick of the day

illinois chicago -2.5 ENTIRE BANKROLL PLAY!!!!!! just kidding just a couple of units.

good luck

 

[bcj920]

now that was funny.....the curve ball that was needed to change things up a little


bobby

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[GOAT]

Well said my friend! Hope he will listen to somebody that knows. If not hard road as some of us know.

 

[Hailmary]

Can't we just get along????
Recognize that Fletch brings alot of good advice to the forum along with alot of others, but Fletch also lives among reality and hardships of individuals with serious addictions, so when he try's to help you it's only cause he cares about others on this site, so you should be thanking him. I know I appreciate all his advice along with Nolan's, who also see's it every day. Thanks guys! Now lets just get along and win some money! SMILE,

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Gambling is a drug and I'm a junky.
Bombs away!!!!


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[fletcher]

you go and show me where i called him an idiot and bashed him i would like to see that,love the way you put FOR FREE IN BIG CAPPS,so what i have a pay service that wins i also give out plays that win for free but dicks like you keep me away,have a nice holiday/now thats a bash asshole.

 

[theGibber1]

look fletch, i dont want to fight, if you were only trying to help him i sincerely apologize

i just think that if the guy wants to blow his bankroll its his right to choose....

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a f***ing big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of ****ing fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the f**k you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing f***ing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrasment to the selfish, ****ed up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life. But why would I want to do a thing like that?

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[buddy]

Make a choice....fine. No problem.

Ya' wanna' publicly announce/broadcast/boast your method of money management that any bettor with an ounce of common sense knows is a recipe for financial disaster and expect others not to say anything?

Be thankful that won't happen here.

Ya' wanna' do it? Fine.

But if you're gonna' publicly announce that kind of stupidity in a forum where it's subject to public scrutiny...then expect the criticism because it damn sure deserves it.

 

[Skinar]

I agree with Fletcher (big surprise). I wonder what will happen when some folks follow this guy on one of his huge plays that blows up in his face. Then they don't have a bankroll any longer. Someone will probably complain.

 

[BAINS]

Fletch trying to lend a helping hand to one in need is a good thing, don't listen to these pessimists.

 

[fletcher]

i was looking out for him not wanting him to hurt his family somewhere down the road and himself,because it is foolish,i know a few people disagree with my way of playing and thats ok,but i have a reason and do my work ups and make a play for a reason,but donot ever wager more then a small % of my bank roll on any game some plays are played larger then other but it still doesnot make or break me if i hit it or not,i play to make a profit each week and thats the bottom line if i was to be foolish and bet over a certain % and lost on a game then i would not be paying the bills and putting food on the table,then i would be hurting my family,because it is my job. so it was ment to open hi eyes not put him down.
good kuck and happy holidays.