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These guys will take you to the poor house this year,be sure to bet against Colts and Ravens.

Grbac cant make 3rd downs,and Manning throws picks.Just a reminder in case Peter King or Madjack try to brainwash you.
 

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thanks for the reminder. i am totally biased on the ravens and should keep my mouth shut. you're 100% right!

i WILL make a personal bet with you though. they have 13 games left (reg season). i bet they win at least 7 ATS for a money maker betting on them the rest of the way.

you set the price. how about a fitted cap? doesn't matter to me.

and, i agree with YOU about the cincy teaser. if you like the damn game, bet it! screw all the teasers!
 

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he won't bet w/ya Jack, he likes to talk the talk but still doesn't know how to walk!!!

he could have made e-z money on my bill's this year, but once i said put your money where your mouth is >>>no reply

as far as manning i think he is the best in the nfl-right now-don't go by one game
 

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Im trying to steer everyone in the right direction,dont buy the hype on these 2 guys,their not as good as their made out to be.
 

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ya.. well..ummm

Manning will never be the QB Jeff George is.


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THAT ACE COULD NOT HAVE HELPED YOU!
 

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You must be one of those idiots that cast a ballot for Woodson during the Heisman race. To even suggest that Manning isn't one of the top Qbs in the NFL, shows how ignorant you are in drawing conclusions about individual NFL players.

I also realize that the reason behind this statement is probably to get a rise out of some of the posters at Jack's place. Manning has played in the league for ONLY 4 years! Since his first year in the league, he has started and played in every single game. While it's common for rookies to sit on the sidelines to become familiar with their team's system, Peyton's nurturing and experiences have been played out on the field. And if you think that this young kid isn't going to make any mistakes along the way, then you are even dumber than I initially thought. He's almost hit the century mark in touchdowns, which is quite impressive when you look at the amount of time he's been in the NFL.

Matter of fact, where in the world is Woodson???

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YEAR TEAM G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Rate
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.5 78t 26 28 71.2
1999 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 533 331 62.1 4135 7.8 80t 26 15 90.7
2000 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 571 357 62.5 4413 7.7 78t 33 15 94.7
2001 Indianapolis Colts 4 4 136 91 66.9 1089 8.0 60t 9 9 85.7
TOTAL 4 NFL Seasons 52 52 1815 1105 60.9 13376 7.4 80t 94 67 85.4
 

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67 interceptions in 52 games thats a real promblem,Peyton has a knack of totally disappearing in the big games in his life like the 2 playoff games and the 4 vs the Florida Gators brings him to 0-6 in those games that define careers.Peyton is a loser if you want to back him thats up to you,I am hear to help the forum and tell the truth,I have a knack for winning by bets.Elvis Grbac is another overrated piece of crap,just dont say no one told you so.
 

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Neemer:

You make a good counterargument in favor of Manning as one of the NFL's best quarterbacks.

However, I still think the jury is out.

Potentially, I see Manning in the mold of a Drew Bledsoe -- who almost immediately started for the Patriots and looked to be the next Johnny Unitas. Bledsoe had all the tools -- size, arm strength, leadershipm etc. -- but his career flattened-out over the last few years and most observers would list Bledsoe in the middle of the pack. Of course, Bledsoe has very little talent on offense, so that is also a factor.

I also see some similarities between Manning and Aikman. When Dallas had all the weapons -- a great running game (Smith and Johnston), three viable receiving targets (Irvin, Harper, and Novacek), and a great offensiver line -- Aikman was the NFL's best quarterback (or at least on par with Steve Young and Brett Favre). Once there was even the hint of a breakdown of one of the offensive pillars, Aikman became very average. In fact, Aikman was a very poor quarterback the last 3-4 years of his career.

At the moment, Manning has weapons similar to Aikman. I want to see how Manning does when James or Harrosin are OUT with an injury. That's the mark of a great quarterback -- someone who can win and/or play well under ADVERSITY. Quarterbacks who seem to play well no matter what the conditions include: Donaovan McNabb (although its too early to put him in the elite category); Kurt Warner (no question); and Doug Flutie (his winning percentage validates this). Obviously, John Elway and Steve Young were in this category before their retirement. I was never a big fan of Dan Marino, but I suppose he has to be in this category also. However, I would not put Aikman in this category, not do I think he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Peyton Mannnig has to prove he can lead a team when it's not entirely healthy or playing well as a unit. Thus far, he has run up some impressive stats against the dregs of the NFL, but has not produced in big games. The jury is still out. But after the confustion I saw in the Oakland game Sunday night, I am no longer convinced Peyton Manning is as good as we might have thought.

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Peyton had all the time in the world to throw at Tennessee also,you notice how the media ran with Chris Simms before he even threw a pass,Oklahoma shoved it up his ass.
Peyton likes to run it up against a bad Bill D that is full of injuries,he wouldnt do jack squat with out Marvin and Edgerin.
 

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No one can say your wrong yet. In fact Balt with out a good running game. Well Grbac I don't think can carry the load. Manning has some D problems on that team and may have same problem. I saw some happy feet today. First sign of what to do with the ball next.
So they want to keep over spotting them. It will make money going against tell they get it right.
 

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9 INT's...I dont care...he throws over 40 times a game...send him to the Bears..we would luv em...yes we R 4-1 but its not due to our QB play..when ya throw alot ur gonna have more int's...I will continue to bet on this guy ...he's got thrown in as a rookie and many rookie qb's wouldnt be coming to play until now after 4 yrs...go ahead and dog him today as I will be cashing in on him as the weeks and YEARS pass
 

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Ive bet on Peyton twice in 7yrs thats when he was plays Rob Johnson,If you find a D that can put any heat on him he melts,he had several intentional groundings and bad throws today,he has a slow release and thinks he has a Brett Farve arm but doesnt.He is a nice country boy,but way overrated as a qb.

As far as Elvis he is not made for the WCO,the Ravens have to pass the ball because of the hand that was dealt,Elvis isnt elusive enough for him to make necessary throws,defense looked ordinary for 2nd week in a row,probably wont make playoffs.
 

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apparently "HE HATE ME" you have to be 1-1 in those games you bet manning vs johnson cuz the bills plain out kicked there ass last here in buffalo!
and your so biased to buffalo what the hell have the chargers ever done 1 superbowl that they were crushed at half-time.
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all i can see heere is your a flutie fan 100%.well my friend enjoy him this yeasr because that wil be it for him as brees will take over the chains next year,if not by the end of this year,depends on how far dougie can take them??
i'll be down your way this week for the game and i sure as hell hope johnson takes care of busines!have no idea what the team or the city of buffalo has ever done to you, but have heard nothing but chit about my team.
GL THIS WEEK-END THINK YOU'LL NEED IT!
 
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