Hadn't checked it in a while - somewhat good news.
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Thankfully the rest of the world (well most of it) doesn't "gobble it up" like the USA does. The virus doesn't give a shit about land borders (as well as the vaccine), so yes, thankfully there are millions out there that don't fall for that shit, ya know, follow science and logic and shit.
You pretty much nailed why the USA vaccine numbers are so low.
But again on the bright side most of the rest of the world has its shit together. :00hour
Hadn't checked it in a while - somewhat good news.
What bothers me is people tell me to quit watching CNN, MSNBC. I don?t watch any of it, my sister does hospital utilization and review and statistics, I have consulted with leading respiratory doctors in the field. They know wtf they are talking about. I don?t need to get my info from the news and I would say that FOX or anyone pushing the anti vax is going to cost people their lives. I blame pure politics on my fiends death
I like to watch Z Dogg on you tube and I suggest people listen to what he has to say. Disclaimer he?s not for the mandate, he encourages vaccination but doesn?t want it enforced, he debunks a lot of Myths and he is hard on Fauci sometimes.
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What bothers me is people tell me to quit watching CNN, MSNBC. I don?t watch any of it, my sister does hospital utilization and review and statistics, I have consulted with leading respiratory doctors in the field. They know wtf they are talking about. I don?t need to get my info from the news and I would say that FOX or anyone pushing the anti vax is going to cost people their lives. I blame pure politics on my fiends death
I like to watch Z Dogg on you tube and I suggest people listen to what he has to say. Disclaimer he?s not for the mandate, he encourages vaccination but doesn?t want it enforced, he debunks a lot of Myths and he is hard on Fauci sometimes.
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FOX is not anti-vax. In fact, they are pro-vax. Just anti-mandate. But people that don?t like Fox try to denigrate them and will probably blame Fox and Trump for all the deaths. It?s a shame. Always amazes me about people that talk like they know everything and that anyone that disagrees is a ?dumbass?.:0002
I don?t approve of mandates. New Orleans requires proof of vaccine to enter restaurants, bars, gyms, museums, etc. I?m not cool with that even though I?m vaxxed.
I have two questions
How is it acceptable to mandate vaccine for citizens, but not for immigrants?
And the big one, why TF is natural immunity being completely ignored?
I have two questions
How is it acceptable to mandate vaccine for citizens, but not for immigrants?
And the big one, why TF is natural immunity being completely ignored?
I?m not for mandates either, we all have a choice? Get the vaccine or don?t and move on? I haven?t heard about the immigrant stuff as I rarely watch the news.
Why is natural immunity being ignored? The medical community would prefer you to get vaccinated before you get covid, easier on them, people believe natural immunity is the end all
Fox gets a bad rap because they are a news entertainment product that masquerades as a serious news outlet. In research polls, Fox News viewers have consistently rated first as the most misinformed.
Also, pro vaccine doesn't seem accurate. "Vaccine Apathetic" is probably a better fit.
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Can you describe a situation where a citizen would have to get a vaccine but an immigrant wouldn't?
RE: natural immunity.....
According to the CDC studies, you are more than twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
Conflicting studies on that natural vs vaccine. I?m following the science and it tells me in Israel, natural beats vaccine in preventing infection. Combination is the best. Natural needs to be taken into account.
That?s totally fair, but any mandate should then excuse those who have natural immunity IMO.
Problem with the vaccine rules, especially the super harsh ones here in New Orleans, is you either get vaccinated or you can?t do stuff. Saints game, dinner, concerts , festivals., etc. That is a total kick in the face to those who have natural immunity.
I?m glad that you, a medical pro, see the value of natural immunity. That matches with my doctor friends in Nola. Most, if not all, vaccinated, but all believe natural immunity provides enough protection. And natural plus vaccine works even better.
That's fair, but I'd lean towards trusting the CDC over any foreign country. Not discounting these findings at all, but I'm guessing the CDC has access to this data, as well.
By the way, this is where people lose their minds. They want a definitive answer and they want it now. That's not how the scientific process works and they are trying to figure this out in real time.....which opens up a whole other can of worms for the perpetual victims (Blame China, blame the immigrants, blame Fauci, blame Biden, etc).
I don?t watch Fox but I?ve seen blurbs where hosts are telling people it?s not worse the the common cold or the one lady was saying right now is a great time to fly, the airports are dead and that was right at the start of this. When the president is telling people that it will just magically be gone then I have a problem with that and yea it has cost people their lives
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Fauci saved Trump?s ass in the beginning of this.. I think Trump would have left everything open if it wasn?t for Fauci, the country would have been devastated without the ?flatten the curve.? People will blame Fauci for everything but he?s not a economist. The politicians on both sides are to blame for that
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Well what they found was is that for a long time parts of the country didn?t get the virus, I live northern mid west I think it got to us sometime in July 2020, that?s why they were really extending the flattening the curve, but without Fauci I don?t think Trump would have done anything
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So what does an Open Border to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS do for Biden, did Fauci approve it?
