Hey Liberals: DUDE? WHERE'S MY CIVIL WAR??

[smurphy]

Poor Spibble and Manson, you don't get it. It's not because Manson is pro-war that I feel he should enlist - it's because he's such an asshole to anyone who voices their God-given American right to protest or even simply describe why this particular was bad strategy or unwise. You think you can figure out the difference between those 2 things?

 

[smurphy]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188359,00.html

Ex-PM: Iraq in Throes of Civil War
Sunday, March 19, 2006

LONDON ? Iraq is in the middle of a civil war, former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said in a TV interview aired Sunday. His comments were immediately rejected by Britain's defense secretary.

Allawi told the British Broadcasting Corp. there was no other way to describe the increasing violence across the country.

"It is unfortunate that we are in civil war. We are losing each day as an average 50 to 60 people throughout the country, if not more," Allawi told the BBC. "If this is not civil war, then God knows what civil war is."

Allawi heads the Iraqi National List, a secular alliance of Shiite and Sunni politicians that won 25 seats in December parliamentary elections.

While visiting British troops in Iraq on Sunday, Defense Secretary John Reid said Allawi's remarks to the BBC contradicted what the former prime minister told him during a Saturday meeting.

"Every single politician I have met here from the prime minister to the president, the defense minister and indeed Ayad Allawi himself yesterday said to me there's an increase in the sectarian killing, but there's not a civil war and we will not allow a civil war to develop," Reid said.

"The essential thing is to show maximum unity in a government of national unity so that the terrorists that do want a civil war do not get their wish."

The bombing of a Shiite shrine in the Iraqi city of Samarra on Feb. 22 unleashed a wave of sectarian violence that left hundreds dead. Allawi said the violence in Iraq was moving toward "the point of no return" and that the country was "in a terrible civil conflict."

He also warned that the United States and European nations would not be immune from the conflict because not only will Iraq "fall apart," but "sectarianism will spread throughout the region."

"Even Europe and the United States would not be spared all the violence that may occur as a result of sectarian problems in this region," Allawi said.

Allawi said playing down the current problems in Iraq would be a mistake, telling the BBC he had warned against a power vacuum and the prevalence of militias.

Allawi said the formation of a national unity government was what Iraq needed to achieve peace.

Iraq's newly elected Parliament was seated Thursday, and representatives of its Shiite Arab, Sunni Arab and Kurdish blocs have been meeting in an effort to overcome deep divisions and agree on the makeup of a new government. The minority factions want to block broad Shiite control of powerful ministries.

Allawi's nonsectarian party was among those trying to block the candidacy of Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, a Shiite. The opposition groups contend that al-Jaafari would not represent their interests and did too little to stop Shiite revenge attacks in the aftermath of the Samarra shrine bombing.

Let's see....am I more likely to believe an assessment from the former PM of Iraq or from a partisan journalist? What say you, Charles Manson? Which person is more likely qualified to make a fair judgement on the sate of the nation in Iraq?

 

[spibble spab]

smurph,
so noones been an asshole to manson? I think the reason manson gets picked on alot is not only for his political opinion but he, like myself, is vastly outnumbered by people who have a different opinion. seems like dissent is the norm here so dont complain about being stifled.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Facts = asshole I guess?

I think Madjack has us hyper-linked into the moveon.org message board. Man, what a bunch of girls!! The namecallilng is relentless now. lol Wow any conservative statement gets automatically thrashed within like 2 seconds by the wacky left lol. Kosar...you win the award...it's usually a matter of seconds......
24/7 Manson-Bush-bashing
Hey guys, at least you have "some type of life"...better than nothing huh??

I think about who their leaders are...

Howard Dean....I hope he never gets fired lol

Hillary Rotten

Joe Biden...always fuming mad and talks for hours about himself on the senate floor

Crazy Murderer Ted Kennedy..constant tomato face hangover

Nancy Pelosi an angry hypocrite San Francisco leftist wacko for your minority leader?? :mj07:

Dick Durbin?? lol this guy rules, keep him

Harry Reid....no solution to anything...only whining

John Kerry ...before invasion he said Saddam had WMDs and now is calling Bush a liar

LOL does Al Gore count?? lol no?? ok

hmmm...btw didn't they all say Saddam had WMD's too?? :mj03:

Honestly I don't expect much out of the libs in here. I like to see them call me names and hoot and hollar and throw their little teen-ager tantrums. The Dems are the party of namecalling, of hypocracy, of fingerpointing, of crying, of no plans or ideas ...and the long list goes on

Whine and cry just like the libs in Washington....Follow your leaders......you know who they are.... :142crying

 

[smurphy]

So what is your opinion of the comments from Allawi regarding the presence or non-presence of the civil war? This has been the topic of your thread. Every other comment/naem calling either started from you or was a result of your innability to discuss a topic rationally.

I'm all for no name-calling. Included in this agreement would have to be you not calling everyone liberals just because they disagree with you. Many conservatives also disagree with you. You do not corner the market on conservative thought.

OK?

 

[bryanz]

You have to be ****ing kidding me.

 

[bryanz]

You are not a conservative. You are so far out there on the right that the people you list on the far left,the same people that you hate and talk bad about are as much the problem as the people you follow on the far right. You all have two things in common,you are not good for America and you are extremist. I due agree with you, lets get rid of the hillary's and Kerry's the Cheney's and Bush's and give America back to MIDDLE AMERICA.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

If "MIDDLE AMERICA" is not conservative then I wonder why those states are red.

Bryan....dude...another personal attack? My god it never ends in here. How old are you guys like 12? Thanks for your opinion and I am sorry that you disagree with my views. If you say I am not a conservative - so be it. Like you and I even know eachother huh?

Murph...you can call me a neocon or conservative or whatever, just like the term liberal is used. These are political terms used by everybody. Calling someone a conservative or a liberal is not a derogatory thing.

I draw the line when I am called names like asshole, or threatening to bash my head in with a baseball bat, or DJV talking about my mother taking my computer away. I mean...go ahead...keep it up....us conservatives love to see you liberals unhinged. It's shit like this that makes you guys look really lame. I wish you all could just stick to the topic at hand instead of acyting like crybabies who can't even focus.

 

[kosar]

Careful Manson, the librarian is keeping a close eye on you.

 

[smurphy]

Wow. That map again. Maybe Manson is actually senile or has amnesia? There's definitely something wrong with his memory.

Cool map, though. Anyone watch Colbert Report? Get to know your Congressman? I wonder if he'll ever completely fill in his map...

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Another off topic personal attack lol. Thank you for proving my point Kosar. You guys are priceless. :mj07: