Hey Sportsbooks

[chump]

Why not have more offers for Loyal, Current, Consistent customers????

Seriously. All the offers are for new people

Why not reward players that have been playing??

I have lost my last 10 deposits at Bodog, nothing special for me on a reup at all. But if I was new, I'd get $100.

 

[IE]

BOWMANS

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[LuckyIrish]

I agree chump...they always reward new customers but what about older ones?
these reload bonuses dont always cut it for me...they should be giving free bets,shirts,hats,etc.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

i suspect i'll be the lone dissenter here, and i've said it before that bonuses are stupid. books that offer them offer worse lines and higher juice. any bonus you get will be washed away into betting into inflated lines. so if you get any bonus or something, you waste it all in added juice.

as for hats and shirts, thats just more money the books waste from them being stabilized. all the books that go belly up, aces gold, blue marlin, etc.... all did these things. be really wary of books offering big bonuses when football is over. your money probably isn't real stable there.

 

[bjfinste]

BDB-

Who offers lower juice other than Pinnacle? I know the dime line and non-dime line books for baseball, but every other (at least reputable) book but pinny seems to deal the standand -110/-110 on point-spread sports.

 

[IE]

bjfinste,


bestlinesports


offers -108 on all traditional -110 lines no?

just making sure you got them since you are in the contest.

 

[chump]

I am not eligible at Bowmans, had a rare cashout there a while back.

I like bonuses, don't care about hats and shirts etc.

Just because a book has reduced juice doesn't always mean you get it on your bet.

Example - Pinny 2nd half -5.5 -125, Wsex -5.5 -115

There are some good deals out there for me but I would really like one from Bodog considering how many times I've received a beatdown from them.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Just because a book has reduced juice doesn't always mean you get it on your bet.

Example - Pinny 2nd half -5.5 -125, Wsex -5.5 -115

you're thinking about it wrong. look at your example above. the flip side of those lines is
wsex +5.5 -105
pinnacle +5.5 +115

see the difference. you are still betting a dime line as opposed to 20 cent line. pinnacle doesn't always have the best number. thats why everyone should have at least 4 outs. but you can't beat their juice. and as ie said there are others with reduced juice.

if you bet 300 a game at - 105 and 300 at -110 in just ten bets you've saved 150 bucks betting the -105, but if you bet the -110 you are effectively negating any bonus you get. in a perfect world of course you want both bonus and low juice, but in the long run lowerjuice is what saves you.

not faulting you for wanting a bonus, i hope you get it, but long term, low juice is light years more important.

gl

 

[bjfinste]

IE-

I closed my account there after the first month of the season because I had to buy a car, but no, I didn't get -108. I believe I did on some of the NFL preseason games, but that was it. I'm 99.999 percent sure I was laying -110 on my cfb and nfl games once the regular season started. I tried checking my history there, but it only goes back two weeks. Although the cbb lines right now are listed at -108.

 

[bodawg]

You should get 10% re-up deposit bonus, you are eligible for a reload bonus. This is standard offer for existing customers.

Bodog bonus page

Why not have more offers for Loyal, Current, Consistent customers????

Seriously. All the offers are for new people

Why not reward players that have been playing??

I have lost my last 10 deposits at Bodog, nothing special for me on a reup at all. But if I was new, I'd get $100.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

You should get 10% re-up deposit bonus, you are eligible for a reload bonus. This is standard offer for existing customers.

Bodog bonus page

all you books are blind. since i have your ear, explain to me how you aren't blowing somke up peoples ass with a bonus. lets look at your line for the nfl game tomorrow night.

lets also assume i deposit 1k for the 10% bonus. i want to put 500 on the ravens -3.5. to do that i have to lay 525 at your -105. now at a comparable book i can get -3.5 for +103. now that 500 i bet can return 515. so i save 25 bucks alone on this bet. do this 4 times and my bonus is gone.

you always say well you can always bet the other side. okay, lets try that. i would have to lay 575 to win 500 at your gb +3.5 -115. at a comparable book i only have to lay 555 to win 500 at -111 for an expected savings of 20 bucks. do that 5 times and my bonus is gone.

plus i can grab MY money whenever i want and don't have to deal with crap rollover requirements.

you books either don't get it which i don't suspect or your client base is really really dumb. i suspect the latter.

 

[Agent 0659]

all you books are blind. since i have your ear, explain to me how you aren't blowing somke up peoples ass with a bonus. lets look at your line for the nfl game tomorrow night.

lets also assume i deposit 1k for the 10% bonus. i want to put 500 on the ravens -3.5. to do that i have to lay 525 at your -105. now at a comparable book i can get -3.5 for +103. now that 500 i bet can return 515. so i save 25 bucks alone on this bet. do this 4 times and my bonus is gone.

you always say well you can always bet the other side. okay, lets try that. i would have to lay 575 to win 500 at your gb +3.5 -115. at a comparable book i only have to lay 555 to win 500 at -111 for an expected savings of 20 bucks. do that 5 times and my bonus is gone.

plus i can grab MY money whenever i want and don't have to deal with crap rollover requirements.

you books either don't get it which i don't suspect or your client base is really really dumb. i suspect the latter.

Yeah what he said!! Somehow I dont see a quick response coming.

 

[bodawg]

yo BleedDodgerBlue, odds and lines move based on action. Some people shop around, some people bet what's available right there and then. Obviously you shop around - good for you.

Are you saying offering different lines is bad?

I don't know about sportsbooks that tell people to bet both sides, that is just a silly and more often bettors will lose the juice. Middling and scalping are for sharp guys with the patience to shop around. Besides, not a lot of sportsbooks will want to bonus sharp players anyway.

Good luck to ya.

 

[Agent 0659]

yo BleedDodgerBlue, odds and lines move based on action. Some people shop around, some people bet what's available right there and then. Obviously you shop around - good for you.

Are you saying offering different lines is bad?

I don't know about sportsbooks that tell people to bet both sides, that is just a silly and more often bettors will lose the juice. Middling and scalping are for sharp guys with the patience to shop around. Besides, not a lot of sportsbooks will want to bonus sharp players anyway.

Good luck to ya.

I dont think he is saying bet the other side like a middle. He is saying if a book is price gouging one of the arguments is to bet the other way to take advantage of it, but that isnt the reality.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

yo BleedDodgerBlue, odds and lines move based on action. Some people shop around, some people bet what's available right there and then. Obviously you shop around - good for you.

Are you saying offering different lines is bad?

I don't know about sportsbooks that tell people to bet both sides, that is just a silly and more often bettors will lose the juice. Middling and scalping are for sharp guys with the patience to shop around. Besides, not a lot of sportsbooks will want to bonus sharp players anyway.

Good luck to ya.

you clearly misrepresented my post and spun it in your way. knew you would. i never said bet both sides and i never mentioned scalping. you have the same NUMBER as a competitor. i used the monday night game as an example. both lines are -3.5 for the favorite.
betting side a my expected value betting the same NUMBER at another book is +25 betting at a BETTER line.
betting side b my expected value is +20

picking one side regardless and not betting the other, after 5 bets maximum any bonus i may have receieved is gone betting at a worse juiced line. i don't even need to shop. i just need to play at a book with better than 20 cent lines. you offer the same number. so essentially you are trying to hide the fact that and entice people with 100 or whatever up front which you just make up in juice anyway. you don't have to be sharp to figure that out.

and it is good for me that im not stupid. i guess its good for you too that most of the people that collect bonuses from any book and bet into worse juiced lines with the same number is good for you.

 

[homedog]

BDB-

Who offers lower juice other than Pinnacle? I know the dime line and non-dime line books for baseball, but every other (at least reputable) book but pinny seems to deal the standand -110/-110 on point-spread sports.

thanks homedog but i'm not giving free press to books that don't advertise here as a courtesy to the books that do advertise here. -Jack

 

[bodawg]

BleedDodgerBlue = you clearly misrepresented my post and spun it in your way. knew you would.

No idea why you would say that I misrepresented your post and gave it a different spin. What I stated were matter of facts we seem to both agree on

1. sharp players shop around and don't care for bonus
2. recreational players bet the available lines (not necessarily that rec players are squares though)

The $100 match bonus is an incentive for new customers to give Bodog a try, that is all. It can be used in the poker room, casino and racebook, not just in the sportsbook.

so essentially you are trying to hide the fact that and entice people with 100 or whatever up front which you just make up in juice anyway.

relax.

 

[ferdville]

i don't think he gets it BDB.

 

[marine]

all you books are blind. since i have your ear, explain to me how you aren't blowing somke up peoples ass with a bonus. lets look at your line for the nfl game tomorrow night.

lets also assume i deposit 1k for the 10% bonus. i want to put 500 on the ravens -3.5. to do that i have to lay 525 at your -105. now at a comparable book i can get -3.5 for +103. now that 500 i bet can return 515. so i save 25 bucks alone on this bet. do this 4 times and my bonus is gone.

you always say well you can always bet the other side. okay, lets try that. i would have to lay 575 to win 500 at your gb +3.5 -115. at a comparable book i only have to lay 555 to win 500 at -111 for an expected savings of 20 bucks. do that 5 times and my bonus is gone.

plus i can grab MY money whenever i want and don't have to deal with crap rollover requirements.

you books either don't get it which i don't suspect or your client base is really really dumb. i suspect the latter.

bodawg,

I think it is pretty obvious and true his statement about you "spinning his post"

Please share with us how you interpret the above to discuss going for a middle opportunity?

The point of the post is to show the amount saved in real money vs "make believe bonus money" by shopping for a decent line and then arguing it against the commonly wrongly used arguement, "well then bet the other side if the line is so bad"

It is NOT about betting Team A and Team B when team A is playing team B.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

relax.

you relax. i'm right and you know it. you obviously pay advertising fees here and can post what you want. i have nothing against your book, but all books in general that overjuice people when there are better alternatives out there. as long as i have posting privileges, i'm allowed to point out that bonuses are a waste of money if you use that money to bet into lines that you can get better elsewhere (and this seems to be the point you don't understand) the SAME NUMBER. it has nothing to do with shopping for numbers. it has to do with playing the same number for x amount at one place and y amount at yours or other placers risking more of MY money to win the same amount at place y. and yes, you books don't want players educated, but who can blame you.